Vietnam has goofy visa rules, probably more goofy for Americans (they call it the American war).

I haven't been to Vietnam in 5+ years so my experience is out of date.. However, from what I recall, you will need to travel with crisp brand new US $20 to pay for anything government related.

Basically you buy a invite letter.. There are services to that provide this. You get the invite letter, print it out, take it with you. Once you arrive (before passport control) you go to an immigration office with the letter and crisp brand new $20's and buy your visa.

If you need to get a new Thai visa, you will also have to pay for that with crisp brand new $20's..

As I mentioned, things may have changed. If I were you I would search for "I am [your nationality] what are the requirements to visit Thailand" and do the same for your girlfriend, most likely her requirements are different.

@Dave *********

Is there an advantage to having a "yellow" house book, over a "blue" house book?

"Only 1 question asked: "Why don't you apply in your home country?""

That's very interesting.. Many people in this group think you can only apply in the country you are currently in. But Jakarta thinks you should apply in your home country.

Do you mind me asking what is your nationality (where is your passport from) ?

@Graham *****

I stand corrected.

I don't know about the DTV but for marriage and tourist visa, I have used my drivers license to establish residence and my passport to establish nationality.

@Graham *****

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@John *********

, I appreciate your "opinions" but Thai immigration does not.. Sorry! I am sure one day they will call you and ask what they should do, but until then, it is safe to assume your opinions have no influence on their decisions.

When you come to Thailand you will see there are the written rules and then there are teh enforced rules (probably the same for most every country).

Here in Thailand you will see people driving down the wrong side of the road. You will see police taking bribes. You will see many government take bribes. It may not be fair or right (according to your opinion) but it is what it is.

@Graham *****

Application doesn't ask that. It asks nationality and residence.

Nobody really knows. Some people speculate.

I would encourage you to play it safe. Plan to stay only 179 days in Thailand 2023 and possible 2024, then re-evaluate.

You collect your luggage after immigration. But you're not likely to get through immigration within 25 minutes of landing.

If you're not comfortable with the lease, don't rent it. There is a reason it's 8 pages and when that reason becomes clear to you, it will be too late.

To answer your question: I have had 2 places no lease, one place several pages and one place one page.