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What options do I have if noisy short-term renters next door are disturbing my peace in my condo?

Terary **********
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So I live in a condo and it's pretty tranquil. The owner of the condo next store likes to rent the condo for short periods of time. Sometimes the guest stay one or two days, sometimes one or two months. Those who come for a day or two like to party and make a lot of noise. The management claim there is nothing they can do. They are unable to enforce the no short term lease rules at the condo (they're pretty useless).

Do I have any options here? Any suggestions?
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A condo resident is facing disturbances from short-term renters next door, often engaging in loud parties. Despite complaints to management, no action is taken. Suggestions from the community include talking to the neighbor, contacting Airbnb or the police about illegal short-term rentals, using signs to warn renters, or escalating the issue to the landlord. Some advise considering a move, while others suggest trying humorous or passive strategies to deal with the situation.
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Socrates ************
Socrates ************
You can move.

That's apartment living for you...
Terary **********
Terary **********
OP
@Socrates ***********
Sadly, I am buying the place
David **********
David **********
They are clearly breaking Thai laws
Ken ******
Ken ******
but you have to be carefulnot to agitate the violator, you know gun control not very effective as judged from the recent violence in shopping malls and even nursery

and people feeble in self control
David **********
David **********
@Ken *****
yes, the news currently makes Thailand look like a very violent and lawless place.
Ken ******
Ken ******
who is the condo developer? write to the chairman,

if you only rent the condo: ask owner to intervene or move out

if you are owner, you can give bad feedback when they have annual coowner meeting
John ********
John ********
Ring the police and say you can smell drugs coming from the condo and you can see it all unfold 🤣🤣
Luc ************
Luc ************
Just buy the condo next to you.
Craig ********
Craig ********
move
Tony *******
Tony *******
Move
Chris ****
Chris ****
Vitico ********
Vitico ********
You could find the apartment on airbnb and rent it for a night then leave the worst reviews ever and have 2 or 3 more people rent it and leave awful reviews (giant rats, roaches and bed bugs on the bed, you threw a party and the cops came and beat and arrested your guests, immigration came and interrogated you for hours about your visa status… you get the idea) that will discourage people from renting there
Simon *******
Simon *******
@Vitico *******
this is all true Loretta 👍
Loretta *******
Loretta *******
@Vitico *******
will get you some jail time to possibly prison time....seen this first hand ...luckily she got out under darknesss....remember there is a law about saying negative things against others in Thailand
David **********
David **********
@Loretta ******
yes but in reality it doesn't protect foreigners only Thai people. It is a very strange law where truth is no defence against defamation. The law literally makes saying the truth illegal. Thailand can't even stop serious criminal defamation and slander on Facebook which has become terrible in Thailand now.
Loretta *******
Loretta *******
@David *********
sorry you took it that way .

.nothing ment like that
David **********
David **********
@Loretta ******
I live in Thailand and have Thai family so don't pretend you know anything about me. Regards.
Loretta *******
Loretta *******
@David *********
all I have to say is....welcome to Thailand...you are a visitor!
Sidney *********
Sidney *********
Thais don’t care,just remember your only a foreign 2nd class citizen in their eyes with no say in anything,move is your only choice!
Manfred **********
Manfred **********
Just call the police, condo rentals shorter than 1 month are illegal.
John *******
John *******
Well if them is the rules and management say nothing they can do you have one option pack up and move
James *********
James *********
Buck up, go over, knock on the door, present a bottle of JW, and join the party 🥳 🎉
Terary **********
Terary **********
OP
@James ********
Really is the smartest choice. I don't party which is why I live in quiet neighborhood. I dont blame the tenets too much - they come here to party.. I blame the landlord.
James *********
James *********
@Terary *********
'zactly 🙏
Bob ********
Bob ********
Ask the police if the have sighted the PM30 and tell them to make sure they have clean uniforms as "Big Joke" may be doing an inspection soon. Then post it all on FB and tag the police station, big joke and the property owner or one of his relatives.
Olivier ************
Olivier ************
Call your landlord.

Tell him / her you d like to move out due to the illegal short stay renters next door..

If he / she is higher up than the neighbor things will get sorted out quickly.

If next door landlord is a retired police officer who is having " Relatives over the weekend " Best to move out

If you are doing anything illegal / frowned upon such as being here on a student visa or back to back tourist, working online and so on best not to ruffle any feather and move out
Val **********
Val **********
Stick a sign on the front door, "It pays to be quiet and respect your neighbours. Short term stay is illegal in Thailand and if you make a noise the police will be called. You have been warned"
Terary **********
Terary **********
OP
@Val *********
I think I am going to do this or something similar.
John ********
John ********
@Terary *********
good way to end up with additional problems from the owner. Don’t do it
Val **********
Val **********
@Terary *********
it may work. Good luck
Bobby *********
Bobby *********
Just tell them to hush 😒 up or you will jump on them 😆 🤣 😂
Terary **********
Terary **********
OP
@Bobby ********
Yeah - I weigh 145lbs - what I am going to do when they take me up on the offer? 🤣
Matthias *********
Matthias *********
It's pretty annoying, got an Airbnb apartment next to mine, too. Although it's not allowed in the building some owners still rent out like that.
Terary **********
Terary **********
OP
@Matthias ********
What can you do about it? I really don't care if they stay a day or a year. But it seems the short time stayers like to party. I never know they're short time until they leave.
Chris *******
Chris *******
AirBmb or not.. its not allowed to rent for less than 1 month in Thailand without hotel licence.

So the duty of the management is to contact the owner and warmed it according the law he is not allowed to rent his room for short term less than 1 month.

Last step is to make a report at the police station.
Terary **********
Terary **********
OP
@Chris ******
Because the police are likely to give up collecting bribes and rush over and have a conversation?
Paul *********
Paul *********
@Terary *********
no it's condo by laws not a police matter
Darren ******
Darren ******
Find out if it's on air BnB if it is then it's illegal to be there.

Unless rented for over a month

As the law protects hotels when only booking 1-2 days.
Paul ********
Paul ********
@Darren *****
And yet, thousands of AirBnBs.
Darren ******
Darren ******
@Paul *******
there are 1000s of...

Drivers without licences

Girls working in bars

Not fit to drive vehicles

Cows on the roads

All ilegal but they happen.

Thai rule says no private rentals under a month as it takes away from hotels etc.
Darren ******
Darren ******
@Paul *******
doesn't detach from the fact it happens , which was my point.

Silence is not the right way to go tho is it..
Paul ********
Paul ********
@Darren *****
Exactly- so talking about illegality is a waste of breath
Terary **********
Terary **********
OP
@Darren *****
Not Airbnb but through an agency.
Darren ******
Darren ******
@Terary *********
Google it , it's ilegal in short term basis
Diego *********
Diego *********
@Terary *********
it's not flexible, it's selective enforcement.
Terary **********
Terary **********
OP
One thing I love most about Thailand is the flexible legal system... It's also one the things I hate most about Thailand.
Darren ******
Darren ******
@Terary *********
so if anyone is in an air BnB and under a month they will be fined if found out.

But agents sign a month contract to buy pass the laws
Terary **********
Terary **********
OP
@Darren *****
Yeah - I understand it's illegal. I meant the the renters rent from an Agency not AirBnB. Regardless - what can be done>
Paul *******
Paul *******
I'd probably first try and solve it with your neighbour in person if. If that doesn't work then, if you think it's being rented on Airbnb you can contact Airbnb's Neighborhood Support to complain about the parties and noise. I guess you could also file a complaint with the local police.
Paul *******
Paul *******
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Darren ******
Darren ******
Mark *********
Mark *********
The rough rule is short stay should be registered hotel. Note I didn't say AirBnB as the No. My view is conttinual use of the brand name Air BnB causes the confusion. There are other suppliers and condos and apartment owners might themselves supply short-stay while not legally allowed. At my condo they had a problem with property owners supplying short-term. They put up notices pointing out the illegality and saying if you want short stay go to a hotel. However what I sense most important has been disallowing entry of unknown vehicles. Threats to take legal action aren't taken seriously. Travel hundreds of miles then not be allowed to park your vehicle is a serious consequence and shows that condo action can work. The point to note is that the rise of AirBnB and others like it in Thailand seems to relate to the fairly sudden massive rise in Thailand of Thai internal tourism not tourists from overseas.
Paul *******
Paul *******
@Darren *****
that's not actually correct, there are exceptions for homestays with less than a certain number of rooms where you don't need a hotel license. However it is certainly illegal to rent a condo on Airbnb for less than a month. However that's totally irrelevant to the question as the question was what can be done. And as I said you can contact Airbnb's neighbours support team or if that doesn't work the police.
Darren ******
Darren ******
Luc ************
Luc ************
@Darren *****
funny boy. 🤡
Darren ******
Darren ******
@Paul ******
the OP said his condo block is being rented 1-2 days.

I said is it air BnB ?

Then that is ilegal on short stays.
Darren ******
Darren ******
@Paul ******
airbnb is illegal in Thailand
Paul *********
Paul *********
@Darren *****
yet I have a condo I'm rent in December
Jim *******
Jim *******
Jim *******
Jim *******
@Darren *****
wow, is it, I’ve booked an air bnb for 3 months… but can only pay 1 month at a time, have i made a mistake?
Darren ******
Darren ******
@Jim ******
no that's fine , it's only for short stays such as 3 days , law says 3 days should be a hotel stay to spread the money to all accom.
Tony ******
Tony ******
@Darren *****
TIT this is Thailand 🇹🇭 🤣 😂 😆
Terary **********
Terary **********
OP
I think I will start hanging posters around the build when I think I have short-term guests. I will make them look official and request people turn in short-term stayers if discovered.
Terary **********
Terary **********
OP
Illegal or not - what can be done about it?
Euan ********
Euan ********
@Terary *********
probably not much.I'd suggest the poster is very careful not to upset the neighbours
Euan ********
Euan ********
@Darren *****
and yet there are hundreds of places listed on there.
Darren ******
Darren ******
@Euan *******
prostitution is also illegal in Thailand 😂
Darren ******
Darren ******
@Euan *******
law says only over a month rent via air BnB as it takes customers away from hotels.

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