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What are the challenges and considerations for a foreign man wanting to marry a Thai woman and bring her to the UK?
Thai womendating culture in Thailandexpat life in ThailandThai visasrelationships with age differencecultural differencesimmigration adviceonline datingexpectations in relationships
May 3, 2025
a year ago
Harrys ************
ORIGINAL POSTERSince I posted the other day about forming a friendship online with a 41 year old Thai divorcee, and wondering, if it got serious, what options I had for being together here in the UK, I have found many guys posting are just being disrespectful to Thai single ladies.
Not every Asian single woman, or gay guy, wanting a relationship with a Caucasian is pretending to love just to get a better life in another country with a wealthy man.
Some, like the lady I am chatting with are genuine. And before you think this 71 yo British guy is nieve, I am not. I can spot a scam a mile off, and my age does not reflect my youthfulness and awareness. I am not gullible.
So if you are attracted to Thai women but have the opinion and attitude that they ALL only want a free ride, then surely you should look elsewhere for companionship or a partner? It seems very disrespectful to those ladies that want a genuine loving, caring and trusting friendship/relationship.
Not every Asian single woman, or gay guy, wanting a relationship with a Caucasian is pretending to love just to get a better life in another country with a wealthy man.
Some, like the lady I am chatting with are genuine. And before you think this 71 yo British guy is nieve, I am not. I can spot a scam a mile off, and my age does not reflect my youthfulness and awareness. I am not gullible.
So if you are attracted to Thai women but have the opinion and attitude that they ALL only want a free ride, then surely you should look elsewhere for companionship or a partner? It seems very disrespectful to those ladies that want a genuine loving, caring and trusting friendship/relationship.
TLDR : Answer Summary
The discussion revolves around the dynamics of relationships between foreign men and Thai women, particularly focusing on misconceptions, stereotypes, and the varying motivations for such partnerships. The original poster emphasizes a genuine connection with a Thai divorcee while addressing negative comments targeting Thai women as solely interested in financial stability from foreign partners. Comments explore different perspectives on relationships, touching upon trust, cultural expectations, and the complexity of motives. Additionally, practical advice regarding visa regulations for bringing a Thai partner to the UK is shared, emphasizing the importance of proceeding thoughtfully and understanding cultural differences in expectations.
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Peter ************
30 years age difference says it all
Phil ******
Hi guys, yeah Iām from Australia and Iām dating a girl from Thailand and yes it all starts from online, thank god.
Iām 61 and she is 34 we have fallen in love as much to say soul mates, we love each other more than anything.
She not looking for money, she works as a pharmacist at first before she decided that it never paid enough, so she decided to become a nurse RN, she worked and paid for her nursing course for 4yrs, she finishes in December.
Look ļæ¼she was just looking for someone to just love her, Iām so glad I found her.
She doesnāt want to
Move here to Australia and I donāt want her to, I have 6 more years before I retire, I will have fun going back and forth to Thai between now and then, but final out come I will be moving there to join her.
My last Wife was Filipino so I know the way of Asian women.
For me I never felt this way even with my last wife.
I see my new life in Thai will be just a blossom like a flower..
see you all there..!š
Iām 61 and she is 34 we have fallen in love as much to say soul mates, we love each other more than anything.
She not looking for money, she works as a pharmacist at first before she decided that it never paid enough, so she decided to become a nurse RN, she worked and paid for her nursing course for 4yrs, she finishes in December.
Look ļæ¼she was just looking for someone to just love her, Iām so glad I found her.
She doesnāt want to
Move here to Australia and I donāt want her to, I have 6 more years before I retire, I will have fun going back and forth to Thai between now and then, but final out come I will be moving there to join her.
My last Wife was Filipino so I know the way of Asian women.
For me I never felt this way even with my last wife.
I see my new life in Thai will be just a blossom like a flower..
see you all there..!š
Michael ************
There's a lot of women here in Thailand. It can be difficult to find a man that will care and support them. Many are good companions. I would suggest you find one with a real job to insure she isn't looking for the easy way out. I've seen many men taken advantage of here and fewer who found their soulmate. Do your research.
And good luck to you!
And good luck to you!
Robin *******
You need to go to the British embassy website and check which visa are available, I got a spouse visa for my wife. Be very careful check and double check everything and donāt pay for her motherās hospital bills or for the sick buffalo. Good luck and all the best for your future
Robert ********
Thai women fall in love with stability not looks or personalityā¦..message your Thai lady and say youāve fallen on hard times and could she lend you some moneyā¦ā¦
Ralph *******
How many times have you visited her and how long did you stay?
Ralph *******
Iām a similar age and have had some very good relationships. I now have a very sweet lady.
There are many Thai women that see farang as an opportunity to improve their lives. There are some that are looking for a loving relationship. Itās a bit of a minefield.
My advice to you is to not choose too young.
There are many Thai women that see farang as an opportunity to improve their lives. There are some that are looking for a loving relationship. Itās a bit of a minefield.
My advice to you is to not choose too young.
Kent ********
If you hang out in American or European bars and strip joints, it is highly unlikely that you will meet the sort of woman that you would like to take home to mother. Thailand is no different and there's no reason that you should expect it to be. However there are many other Thai ladies whose primary interest is not monetary. You can't judge all Thais based on those you encounter while partying in Thailand; most are quite different. I suspect that most of the cynics on this page had a fling with a bargirl that ended badly. Surprise, surprise, surprise.
Rae ******
@Kent *******
Depends on the mother, my dildo wielding strapon wearing butch dyke of a mother would think her the most perfect gift. We can't choose our family, my father, the right Reverend, has no problem with my mother, neither has his flock, though they stopped her teaching sunday school to the all girl group.Ralph *******
@Kent *******
Not quite true. Some of us have had relationships with women we meet on dating sites. There have been a few that were only looking for money, looking to improve their lives and they werenāt bar girls.Richard ***************
@Kent *******
and again genius I have two friends here who have quite good relationships with girls that they met in the bar. Oneās been married for over 25 years but he bought the farm with the family and heās perfectly happy to do it. It was a win-win so again, putting down Thai girls in the bar cynic makes you look ?Richard ***************
@Kent *******
OK genius, hereās your wisdom again, many of us have met girls online and the girls that didnāt work in bars, now are you gonna keep trying to belittle us because we did not find one in a million when you did, is it fun for you to put down other people, calling them cynics!Reply to
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Abdulrahman **************
I am man from great Kingdom of Bahrain. In my country women do not deceive because they know they're place in society.ā¬ļøā¬ļøš¤²š¼
Bob *********
I have two thoughts I guess. One is that your statement or question is sincere but lacks experience and time. I understand why you say what you say, cuz I said the same thing sort of at that point in my relationship.
many of the people with negative comments will be ones who chose wrong. who got burned by the wrong one he did not make good choices. how do you know it's not easy and it's not rocket science. at our age and I'm not as old as you but close we have experience to draw on you say that you can spot a scam a mile away and that is good but this is Asia. your standards for reference are going to be a bit off. be careful.
I have been in the same relationship with the same women since I arrived. and before we talked every night on video chat for hours I thought I knew her pretty well and I do, but there's many things culturally that I don't even understand. I may never understand. and sometimes I find out the hard way. so far though I've been able to bounce back from all of that and everyday our relationship is better. there is no reason why you cannot have a good relationship with the woman in her mid-40s. just take it slow at first and be careful. be ready for a life-changing experience.
many of the people with negative comments will be ones who chose wrong. who got burned by the wrong one he did not make good choices. how do you know it's not easy and it's not rocket science. at our age and I'm not as old as you but close we have experience to draw on you say that you can spot a scam a mile away and that is good but this is Asia. your standards for reference are going to be a bit off. be careful.
I have been in the same relationship with the same women since I arrived. and before we talked every night on video chat for hours I thought I knew her pretty well and I do, but there's many things culturally that I don't even understand. I may never understand. and sometimes I find out the hard way. so far though I've been able to bounce back from all of that and everyday our relationship is better. there is no reason why you cannot have a good relationship with the woman in her mid-40s. just take it slow at first and be careful. be ready for a life-changing experience.
Andy **********
Get a retirement visa for Thailand for yourself, and you can spend extended periods of time in Thailand, without any problems coming and going, try living together first for extended periods of time, take it slowly, don't make any big purchases, you will likely get requests to buy a house, car, motorcycle, gold, give money for her family etc etc, wait until you are more sure the relationship is genuine, some will play the long game, you can get a 6 month visit visa, for your girlfriend for the UK.
Steve **********
Think forward by 15 years I have similar prospect but it is madness. I would not want my Thai " friend " to be a care giver to me It is reality sadly.. I found a 60 year old lady from another culture altogether to join me in the land of smiles
Ryan *******
Let people think what they want
Donald ******
I agree 100%. After a direction question on the MTR in BKK, I met my wife. From an Issan mountain family. I now own a home on her land with water and jungle! If you come only for perversion that is a temporary vacation, and being slowly limited to certain areas. My life changed for the better!
Keith *******
Good on you mate. Well said. There's a lot of ignorant people on this page. Thailand neither needs these types or want them in their beautiful country.
Dana ******
I agree with you. I also agree there is no problem with the age difference... I have seen age does not mean the same thing as it does in the West.
I do need to remind you that you sound like the "but my girl is different" horror stories we all hear about.
I do need to remind you that you sound like the "but my girl is different" horror stories we all hear about.
Garret **********
555 You're going to be a statistic. Make sure you build a house on her families land too.......
Jeff *********
Dummy up mate, sorry š
Morris *****
Your logic is too logical for this group.
Most men who say those things about Thai women usually only date bar girls or have absolutely little to no experience dating and get taken advantage of when they donāt even know it.
The world isnāt rainbows and butterflies and moving to Thailand in itself isnāt going to make up for the lack of social skills and attraction. So they just resort to being a degenerate sexpat searching for ālove.ā
Most men who say those things about Thai women usually only date bar girls or have absolutely little to no experience dating and get taken advantage of when they donāt even know it.
The world isnāt rainbows and butterflies and moving to Thailand in itself isnāt going to make up for the lack of social skills and attraction. So they just resort to being a degenerate sexpat searching for ālove.ā
Kim ****************
Your spot on š
Kevin **********
I get it guys, you're a bitter hater because you didn't make the cut. But look at yourself, you're lucky you had her while you did.
Steve *******
Of course you're not gullible, of course pigs can't fly!
Adrian ***************
Depends on the lady a bar girl with a poor family to support is different to a professional women from Bankok from a middle class family. My marriage to a Thai lady didn't work but some do. Think if I married again would live in Thailand. English people always tell her she just married you for money.
Steve *******
This one will be fun to read the comments
Steve *******
You're posting in the wrong group!
Robert *********
I have a younger Thai girlfriend and accept I am buying delusion and to her it's every day survival. I am having a fabulous time with her and it costs me very little of my money. We are both getting what we want. We both have other options. Like all relationships it will last as long as we both want it to.
Grab happiness anywhere, anytime and with anyone you can. Just use your common sense.
Grab happiness anywhere, anytime and with anyone you can. Just use your common sense.
Pam *********
98% only interested in your money donāt be fooled
FÄ
ndn *******
My dad's frd in his 70s has more self awareness, and openly admits to willingly being scammed by his younger lover
(he divorced his wife)
Now several years later he really has been cheated of his money and the young woman left him, but he said he enjoyed the rs while it lasted š
(he divorced his wife)
Now several years later he really has been cheated of his money and the young woman left him, but he said he enjoyed the rs while it lasted š
Frankie *******
This is a fact.i just left thailand last week.No money No honey.The opposite word Love in Thai culture means money.They will clean u out n sent u home broke while they carry on with another sucker
Rae ******
@Frankie ******
Jesus that really shocks me, you were banging hookers and they wanted you for your money. What the hell is the world coming to? What happened to the good old Thai hooker with a heart of gold. You know the ones, they would buy you gold chains, pay for your hotel, dress you in silk. Oh how times have changed.Reply to
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Sel *****
Is this sarcasm?
Scott ********
Is your life better with her
Is hers better with you
That's all that matters !
Is hers better with you
That's all that matters !
Robert *********
@Scott *******
Well said..Reply to
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Alastair *******
Many comments from jaded men. Many from happy men.
Choosing a partner should be done very carefully and certainly from above your waist!
Some men get this, some men donāt. I think similar in any country, not just Thailand.
I love my Thai wife. Sheās a university trained nurse, now a senior ICU nurse.
Sheās proudly Thai and helps to educate me with all cultural traditions associated with Thailand.
We are both very happyā¤ļø
Quote a famous movie :-
āChoose wiselyā
Hmmmmš
Choosing a partner should be done very carefully and certainly from above your waist!
Some men get this, some men donāt. I think similar in any country, not just Thailand.
I love my Thai wife. Sheās a university trained nurse, now a senior ICU nurse.
Sheās proudly Thai and helps to educate me with all cultural traditions associated with Thailand.
We are both very happyā¤ļø
Quote a famous movie :-
āChoose wiselyā
Hmmmmš
Roman *********
Bro. There are 30 years difference between you two. Just accept the obvious and if you are both fine with it, just enjoy the ride and wish you the best.
Rae ******
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ride being the operative word.Reply to
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Steve *********
Beware. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Girlfriend visas are notoriously hard to get, btwl.
Valentin ****************
Sure sheās different bro
Tom ********
Just one Question, Why would you even be thinking of taking someone you hardly know to go and live in the UK , Have you tried living in Thailand for a while first, what makes you think she will even like the UK which increasingly is becoming a dump.
Mary ********
Thai woman are no different to women everywhere. Especially if you get out of the touristy areas like Bangkok, Pattya and Phucket. There are good and bad woman. Good and bad men. That's life. Not all will see you as an atm, some will. Be cautious, visit her, see what happens. If it's worth pursuing you'll know, but it takes time, like any relationship.
Chuck **********
I married a Thai about 20 years ago, still married but many things changed! Familyās #1! Period! Take care of family 1st, worry about you later! Budda rules over you also. She is a good lady but changed over the years. Could happen to any nationality though, not just putting down Thais.
Jim ***********
Online. How many other guys she speak to just now ? Bet you are not the only one. One born everyday. Maybe it's your turn today
Bob *********
@Jim **********
so Jim you're naive enough to think that a woman who wants to find a partner or only talk to one at a time? when you did online dating if you did? did you only talk to one girl at a time? no disrespect to you Jim but you're not a good person to give advice. because with your attitude everyone would be suspect and therefore no one would be a good. so you would just stay away maybe you sit on the bar stool watching life go by? maybe he does not want that lifestyle? think before you speak šJim ***********
@Bob ********
I said he won't be only guy talking to. U agreed . Wake up read againBob *********
@Jim **********
I read again and I stand by what I said. do betterJim ***********
@Bob ********
obviously you need stronger medicationReply to
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Chuck **********
Youāll find out
Braulio *********
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Barry ********
The only way you will get her to uk is on a dingy from france ! I tried twice to get my gf a visa and couldn't get it !
Marney ********
In 20 years you don't know how many times I've heard. But she's different! no she's not. I've sat and spoken to ladies educated uneducated. Most educated middle to upper class Thais, only date Thais.
Kent ********
@Marney *******
It seems that many Thai men treat women rather badly. Before meeting my wife, I chatted with a number of middle aged to older Thai women. All were well educated and professional and all were either widowed or divorced. I asked each of them why they were interested in meeting a farang. The replies were somewhat different, but much the same; they all thought that farang treat women better than Thai men do and they all had stories of bad experiences. After their previous experiences, they had no interest in another relationship with a Thai man. I happen to know a few Thai men who treat their wives quite well, but there are quite a few that do not. My wife is well educated and professional and her family is not poor. She had two previous relationships with Thai men that turned out very badly. At that point, she had decided that she simply was not destined to be in a good relationship and didn't even want to try. Her sister tried very hard and finally convinced her to reluctantly try meeting a farang online. I'm very grateful that she did.Barry ********
@Kent *******
I have also heard similar storiesReply to
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Cloana ********
Not "all"... But "most of"...
We all accept this mindset (or not) but it's a fact, broš¤
We all accept this mindset (or not) but it's a fact, broš¤
Jeff *******
@Cloana *******
Muppet - theres approx 35 millions thai females and you're claiming at least 17,500,001 have sinister intentions? Get out moreMichael *****
Listen there are good and bad women and men in all countries. As English man I can tell you that forever in time many English women have been money motivated and beautiful younger women have dated and married ugly older guys who just happened to be rich. Is there any difference really between certain Thais and other nationality women??!! . Thailand is criticised for its prostitucion, like that doesnt exist in European countries !!!
I personally know a guy who has been dating a Thai women for 10 years and she is smart, intelligent and beautiful and probably spends more money on him than he does on her. She is a CEO of her own company , so you see its all about the quality of the person and their morals and needs.
I personally know a guy who has been dating a Thai women for 10 years and she is smart, intelligent and beautiful and probably spends more money on him than he does on her. She is a CEO of her own company , so you see its all about the quality of the person and their morals and needs.
Alica *******
Not all are, just 99.99 % are. Rich thai chick with farlang. Like unicorns. I heard they exist but never seen one.
Marney ********
@Alica ******
HiSo their called and they will not marry Farang Only the poor Marry Farang. Their very good at acting like they have moneyš°. 30 years and you think it's not about Money. I was only told the other day 70 and up little power not alot of boom boom good take care money. Not do for long time. Cause their near 70 if you know what I mean.Michael *****
@Alica ******
well I know several unicornsKen ******
@Michael ****
check her profile she is about 6 years old ..someone is ghosting youKen ******
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Ken ******
I'm your age au and was in the same delimer 8 years ago. My sister told me. it's your life do what you want if it doesn't work out. Move on. Just make sure your both happy. Don't let anyone tell you how to live your life or spend your money..by the way. I'm now single living in bkk and don't have any regrets
Diana ********
You say you're not gullable but then try & tell us you know someone only from online but you know for certain they aren't like the others, you can only truly know someone's intentions when you know they're whole physical form & real life personality, digital isn't real life
Stephen **********
I find the post humorous, not because of the context but rather the content, specifically the sentiment that the OP isn't gullible and can spot a scam a mile away. I'm pretty sure everyone that has ever been scammed in personal or business dealings felt the same way until they didn't....
Jonny *********
Everyone has to live trough their own experiences, also regarding the foreigner /Thai relationship. Don't matter if 50 guys say "my Thai wife is genuine" or 50 other guys say "my Thai wife was a scammer" as there is nothing carved in stone. Best way is an open mind, and take it from there. You never win in any lottery if you don't buy a ticket. Don't spend more then you can afford to loose is a good way of thinking about it.
Bob *********
@Jonny ********
well it's not my train of thought or logic I cannot find any fault with what you say.I suggest Arnold Schwarzenegger's book be useful. reading it helped me make some decisions and stick with them. as you say be careful but don't be so careful that you miss out on what could be one of the best things in your life.
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Alex ********
One word: prenup
Aikins *******
@Alex *******
prenup agreement in nature is transactional. You create a bad environment where she hides money and you hide money for the worse case scenario. In Thailand, you might as well just date forever till you part ways.Reply to
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Todd *********
Naive
Ellen *************
@Todd ********
š I had to too šš¼Reply to
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Ian **********
There are good and bad in all
I have experienced the bad where my ex she expected me to pay for everything even though she was working a quite decent job.
I have a Thai girlfriend now is the complete opposite we share costs 50- 50
Some times I pay and some times she pays .
I have even had her get annoyed at me for trying to pay for something when she wanted to pay .
Take each person differently
If it does not feel right
Then it is not right
I have experienced the bad where my ex she expected me to pay for everything even though she was working a quite decent job.
I have a Thai girlfriend now is the complete opposite we share costs 50- 50
Some times I pay and some times she pays .
I have even had her get annoyed at me for trying to pay for something when she wanted to pay .
Take each person differently
If it does not feel right
Then it is not right
Ellen *************
You say youāre not naĆÆve, but you canāt even spell the wordā¦ Iām not sure if naĆÆve fits or there is a more compelling synonym, but my good sir, the mere fact that you are in a room filled with people with masses more experience than you in a very specific arena and you are scolding them and rejecting their input, so certain that you know what is whatā¦ That is folly, youthful arrogance, and willful ignoranceā¦ Not naĆÆvetĆ© , not by a longshot.
Pride goeth before a downfall and this is exactly what you are about to experience. She is no doubt playing to your pride and vanity, an arrogant man is an easy mark- I was young once š š
I am by no means, and Iām sure many here or not either, besmirching the Thai people (if I can use that word in this context?) š¤ the fact of the matter is that you cannot in your wildest dreams, conceive the weight of being responsible for taking care of multiple generations of your family in a climate of extreme poverty. Within the context of the society structure, how could I look down upon them!? But you really need to get square with that and understand that yes, there can be genuine, lovely people, and ALSO they are under immense pressure. We think we understand, but we cannot. Simply cannot. No frame of reference.
You could marry a lovely woman who would be nice and kind and faithful all your life. This does not mean she is unclear that she needs to marry into means. Whatās lucky for you? Is that even if you are low on the totem pole financially, in the UK you are still a man of means to her. No one here that I have noticed has said they only want you for your money. That demonizes them. This is not about morality, itās about survival and a lack of options. She may like you well enough and marry you but the money makes all the difference in the world for them- they arenāt overlooking that- because they canāt. We all want happiness, and for each other but letās not pretend there isnāt a huge power imbalance.
Pride goeth before a downfall and this is exactly what you are about to experience. She is no doubt playing to your pride and vanity, an arrogant man is an easy mark- I was young once š š
I am by no means, and Iām sure many here or not either, besmirching the Thai people (if I can use that word in this context?) š¤ the fact of the matter is that you cannot in your wildest dreams, conceive the weight of being responsible for taking care of multiple generations of your family in a climate of extreme poverty. Within the context of the society structure, how could I look down upon them!? But you really need to get square with that and understand that yes, there can be genuine, lovely people, and ALSO they are under immense pressure. We think we understand, but we cannot. Simply cannot. No frame of reference.
You could marry a lovely woman who would be nice and kind and faithful all your life. This does not mean she is unclear that she needs to marry into means. Whatās lucky for you? Is that even if you are low on the totem pole financially, in the UK you are still a man of means to her. No one here that I have noticed has said they only want you for your money. That demonizes them. This is not about morality, itās about survival and a lack of options. She may like you well enough and marry you but the money makes all the difference in the world for them- they arenāt overlooking that- because they canāt. We all want happiness, and for each other but letās not pretend there isnāt a huge power imbalance.
Bob *********
@Ellen ************
why do people always come out when somebody misspells a word and then holds that in front of them like a massive achievement?and if you come back with insults towards me I'll block you immediately.
Ellen *************
@Bob ********
itās confusing that you seem to be insulting me but threaten to hide your profile from me if I seem to respond with an insult? And I really donāt understand your point at allā¦ if you find me so awful why not block me- I mean youāre going to anyway, I donāt understand the point of your comment at all if it isnāt to try to highlight that you think Iām awful? I think you should do as you please with your social media controls- absolutely šš¼ Iām pretty sure it would not be a huge loss for me if you block me. Iāve never seen you before and probably wouldnāt notice if I saw you again. š¤·š»āāļø
Itās not a massive achievement.
It was a way of bringing attention to a parallel concept that I was about to extrapolate, so it was what might be called a strong opener. Look at me answering as though you had really had interest in my answer š asking a question to get to know me is almost certainly not your goal. Iām sure by now youāve reached your goal of deciding to carry through with your threat and block me so I guess Iāll just continue talking to myself as though you havenāt blocked me yetā¦ Maybe I just like to hear the sound of my own voiceā¦. ļæ¼but I digress.
It is definitely not my habit, as many people donāt speak English as a first language, but I think sometimes when people come and say something with their whole chest that they are really uneducated about, and they make such a mistake, any of us might be a bit juvenile and swipe back with a correction such as that.
I donāt have to be perfect and Iām not perfect and Iām OK with that. When I regret things I make a sincere amends. Iām not sure this is one of those cases and you trying to be intimidating isnāt going to force me into one.
I think a more interesting question is did you make the same comment to anyone else that also corrected the spelling?
I wonder if you came aggressive to anyone else that made clear in their comments that his post/thinking is off track?
I wouldnāt block you regardless of your answer. Iām always a bit curious, whereas you arenāt curious you are something entirely different. You have to live in your skin,
so rock on. I am feeling pretty good in mine. Happy Sunday
Bob *********
@Ellen ************
as I thought. You are clueless. came in and insulted this guy. insulted him on his grammar, and then you try to make it sound like it's okay by trying to be wordy, and sound intelligent but, really not are you?and then because I pointed out as I thought you attacked me. get a life I would recommend.
Ellen *************
@Bob ********
I attacked you? Please tell me how I attacked you? Thatās just not true. You attacked and āthreatened meā and then I carefully and thoughtfully responded and you then took the time to lie and say I attacked you- and didnāt block me.Again I must inquire- did you scold anyone else in the comments about their correction or their āinsults to that guyā? Or you just like to walk in and swing it at women?
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@Ellen ************
it is actually,''Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.'' and another one for you, 'people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones'Ellen *************
@Rae *****
Iām not in a glass house but Iām happy to be transparent. š Indeed, there are numerous iterations of the pride point. This OP put himself in a glass house and then threw stones at those he invited in. Iām not standing outside throwing stones inā¦ I am defending from his tantrum and trying to talk him down.IMO, the new person asking advice and then railing against it because he doesnāt want it to be true is the haughty one, but if youāre painting me as such, thatās ok. I spend most days quite unbothered by peopleās opinions of me online because it seems a disagreement implies a green for go for a ājustifiedā evisceration, and so why would I value the opinion of such types? š¤·š»āāļø
Thanks for the reminder, language, etymology and history is truly so interesting. A favorite topic - sorry I was lazy with it.
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@Ellen ************
and you accuse others of "arrogance"? Look in a mirror.Ellen *************
@Kent *******
also I didnāt accuse anyone of anything. I stated as a simple fact that when youāre in a room full of people with vast experience, though it may be varied, they will obviously be more familiar with the topic than the person just arriving. For the newbie to think they are instead going to educate everyone else, that is the very definition of arrogance.Ellen *************
@Kent *******
sir everything I said was incredibly balanced. What needs to be understood is that we donāt know what we donāt know and we will never know the level of poverty or the cultural pressure to care for oneās multigenerational family. I judged the man in question, but I did not judge any type person or any woman. you may take exception as you choose, but trying to highlight all aspects of a situation with a fair and even hand is not judgmental.Kent ********
@Ellen ************
Not all Thais are desperately impoverished, although that seems to be your conclusion. Many manage to live quite comfortably even though not rich by Western standards. You comment, "but the money makes all the difference in the world for them" is undoubted true in many cases, but it is not a universal truth. Money is not the prime motivating factor for absolutely everyone. You claim to have "a fair and even hand", but then Fox News claims to be "fair and balanced."Ellen *************
@Kent *******
I never ever said all. Throughout this entire discussion I have been very careful about that because there is no all. There never is. But you are the type that loves to say not all men, not all white people, not all this, not all that and that just doesnāt work. It posits nothing. It is only used as a strawman argument. All that does is minimize the realities. We are all adults and obviously are aware that there are no absolutes, but it is completely acceptable to speak in general terms, especially when being careful, as I was -to always mention it is a generality. For whatever reason you are choosing to exaggerate what I said, as though I said it was 100% applicable. You seem to skim over some parts because acknowledging them wouldnāt allow you to ācorrect and informā me. youāre creating an argument where there is none. You are only saying what I already said, but trying to act angry and portray me as inappropriate somehow. What a bore. I really didnāt read beyond that because clearly you and I have no common ground. Enjoy your journey.
Kent ********
@Ellen ************
One last question; I'm rather curious. Since you're so authoritative, do you actually live in Thailand or have you spent much time there?Kent ********
@Ellen ************
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Eddie **********
Dont forget
I been living
In Thailand for 12 year
I see what kind of people comming here Looking for Loveā¦.thai are very kind
People. But due to that itās comming so many falang here for a long time. And 80% of them been
People that canāt find a Ladie in their own country
80% are very bad behavier so
Pls donāt think every thai like foringer.
And ofcause
Maybe 20-30% of thai that are in tourist area are maybe not the nicest
Thai lady. But they have been treeted very bad by the falangs here
Many with alcoholic problem. Bad behavior. They canāt adept to thai
Coulture.
I have seen much more bad falang here then i see bad thai ladyā¦
I been living
In Thailand for 12 year
I see what kind of people comming here Looking for Loveā¦.thai are very kind
People. But due to that itās comming so many falang here for a long time. And 80% of them been
People that canāt find a Ladie in their own country
80% are very bad behavier so
Pls donāt think every thai like foringer.
And ofcause
Maybe 20-30% of thai that are in tourist area are maybe not the nicest
Thai lady. But they have been treeted very bad by the falangs here
Many with alcoholic problem. Bad behavior. They canāt adept to thai
Coulture.
I have seen much more bad falang here then i see bad thai ladyā¦
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@Eddie *********
agree agree agree well saidEddie **********
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Nothing wrong with getting involved with a younger Thai woman, I've been married to a Thai girl for 8 years and we have a fantastic marriage. However, I'd recommend you just be smart & watch for red flags. Asking for money is typically the first & most common.
Brad *******
71 and 30 here. She's Vietnamese however, not that it matters much. We met online just before covid. I visited Saigon as literally obe of the last before it shut down. We forged a bond that remained unbroken during a 2 year freeze. We have since spent 4 months a year together, traveling SE Asia, mostly in Thailand. A year ago we got married. There's a US spouse visa in progress, although tbh neither she nor I would mind not living in the awful US. She is the most loyal female I've ever known, and, as you can imagine, I've known a lot of American women. Asians don't seem to care a lot about age gaps. These relationships are common. The only ones who cluck their tongues about it are usually older women who are jealous and feel they should be in her place.
Rae ******
@Brad ******
the most loyal companion you will ever find is a labrador dog. They literally depend upon you for food. With most Thai westerner relationships its the same thing. If there is a finacial imbalance thats inevitable. It does not mean it wont work, it does not mean its a cynical exploitative relationship. Its just different. The only way you truly know is if you give the lady complete financial independence. If she then chooses to stay with you, then its love. I did that over 20 years ago. Still together and happy, though of course she has much more money and possessions than me because of thai land law. I am completely happy with that and she has never looked at another man in 20+ years. And yes there is a big age gap. Asian women are no more loyal than any other women, they are not submissive and they do have regard to age differences. They arent idiots, a young hard body is an overmatch for a flabby wrinkly, but they do look at things differently and loving and supporting the family and a jai dee outweighs looks. I was lucky, am lucky, I had plenty of money, its easy for me to say. If I was a on a budget and a small pension, obviously the process of finding the right person would be much more fraught and you would have to be absolutely certain. But its the same all over the world. You have to be careful who you share your life with. The is nothing inherently bad about bar girls. But a life in a bar can mean they have picked up many bad habits. Gambling being a prime example, sitting around all day playing cards for money, albeit small sums is not a good preparation for those often boring times to come when they move to another country. They easily fall into bad habits with similarly placed women and the destructive cycle begins again. You have a much better chance of a lasting relationship if they have known the discipline af the clock and sobriety in an office or retail setting.Brad *******
@Rae *****
you are 100% right about dogs, any breed is more loyal than a human.Rae ******
My Thai wife said I was spending too much time playing table football with a friend, she said we should do more things together that we both enjoyed. So she filled it with water and now we play synchronised swimming. And Brad, I know about the lack of attraction towards young men, the 'butterfly effect' but I also know that the package you offer, and by that I mean the totality of you, would be enhanced if you were eye candy too. Perhaps you are? I dont know. I certianly am not. But I do know that a good heart, outweighs everything. Certainly looks, because over the years I have got used to genuinley flattering remarks from Thai women about me. I tried to put it down to sarcasm, I tried to explain it away as blatant flattery, but I have become convinced that because they know all I have done for my wife and Thai family, they just dont see me and all my faults anymore. The shiny image blinds their eyes to the true reality. I have learned to live with it, but I dont understand it. But maybe here is a clue, I have slept with many many women over the years, of several nationalities, and one of the things I have learned is that they are incabable of seeing me clearly, the first time we sleep together, because all they are conscious of is their own imperfections. If up close and personal they fail to 'see' me is it any surprise that they fail later to be able to see me as I am. For Thai women, Jai Dee trumps everything, even common sense.
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@Rae *****
I beg to differ on a few of your points. Many Asian young women are not especially attracted to young Asian men because they're immature and typically don't have a good income. About 90% of the Philippines is composed of single moms because the young boys typically run off without consequence. Also not uncommon in Thailand and Vietnam either. The older men offer stability financial and emotional which females genetically seek out to protect their young whether they have any or not.The land ownership thing you mention seems endemic to Thailand. I've heard it said a lot. Other Asian nationalities tend to want to involve their extended families in any good financial fortune they may get.
None of these traits are typical of the west.
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@Brad ******
to be fair mate itās hell of an age difference. My thai wife is 12 years younger than me but looks 20 years younger. Iām not taking the piss when I also say she looks like your granddaughter because she really could be your granddaughter.Brad *******
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Asian women look 12 when they're 30. When they're 60 they look 30. Should we break up because a few think we don't " look right" ? š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤”Reply to
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@Brad ******
I'm sorry but she looks like your Granddaughter.Brad *******
@Marney *******
said the older woman. š¤£š¤£š¤£Marney ********
@Brad ******
Just because I'm 50 doesn't mean š© the fact is she looks like your grandchild. Or your a PDf File 1 or the other.Brad *******
@Marney *******
and you look like my grandma so that would be incest š¤£Marney ********
@Brad ******
Yes sure I know where we are what group. Your the 1 putting pictures up. Showing everyone how young your girl is, like it's something to be proud of. Yes you are Tesla and its disgusting.Brad *******
@Marney *******
I understand that white ladies are mad because men don't even see them anymore after 45.But that's the way nature planned it.š¤£š¤£Marney ********
@Brad ******
typical pedo response š.Brad *******
@Marney *******
said the lady with a locked profile....typical troll response š¤£Marney ********
@Brad ******
Yes for sure it's locked š had enough of predators like yourself. š¤”š¤”Brad *******
@Marney *******
the only thing stalking you is your catš¤”š¤”Reply to
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Mark ********
I was introduced to my Fiancee by a friend who did a yoga course where she was managing the welcome centre office, so not an online dating app.
I am 61 and she is 53.
After talking via whatsapp for 6 months, I have been to see her several times and lived with her for between 30 and 50 days each time and we have gotten on like a house on fire. She has made it clear that she wanted no money from me (in fact if i spent too much she would end it), she paid for some stuff we did together without telling me.
For me, she is doing this for genuine reasons. We will look to marry in Thailand and then after a few months get ready to move her to the UK. While I can meet the financials for that, and show the relationship is genuine, one criterion she has stated is that she wants to work and not rely on my finances.
I am 61 and she is 53.
After talking via whatsapp for 6 months, I have been to see her several times and lived with her for between 30 and 50 days each time and we have gotten on like a house on fire. She has made it clear that she wanted no money from me (in fact if i spent too much she would end it), she paid for some stuff we did together without telling me.
For me, she is doing this for genuine reasons. We will look to marry in Thailand and then after a few months get ready to move her to the UK. While I can meet the financials for that, and show the relationship is genuine, one criterion she has stated is that she wants to work and not rely on my finances.
Ellen *************
@Mark *******
meanwhile you are fully aware that this story is the exception and not the rule. Congratulations on your happinessTerry *******
@Ellen ************
You often do not know the underhand, deceiptful, twisted advice your girlfriend is receiving from "NARCISSISTIC FAMILY & SO CALLED FRIENDS ! "Ellen *************
@Terry ******
Iām not discussing that? Where did this context come from? šš¼āāļø eek!Terry *******
@Ellen ************
I am not referring to you personally ! but in general.Reply to
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@Ellen ************
yes, but it is possible is my point. If you take it easy and communicate properly.Ellen *************
@Mark *******
itās possible but not probable. There is far more poverty than there is anything resembling a financially independent middle-class. Itās just how it is. There is nothing wrong with those people operating from that place. And I guess thereās nothing wrong in us pretending it isnāt a factor.I donāt really believe that people fall madly in love and stay together despite etc. etc.ā¦ For sure, a relationship of any type can start from necessity and a specific interest and then grow and evolve into something meaningful. No doubt! šš¼ so glad you found yours āØ Slainte
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@Ellen ************
For sure. BeannachtReply to
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Dennis **********
30 year difference in age... she definitely loves you for real š
Eric **********
There are some great gals out there. You just need to take care. Understand too the culture is very different. That said I got lucky you can too. All the best!
David ******
99% are. Thais prefer Thais.
Jim ***********
@David *****
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Kevin ***********
You would find it very difficult to obtain a visa for any Thai lady to come to UK, to live, very difficult even for a short holiday, too much red tape, takes months of preparation and a helluva lot of paperwork involved. If anything you go Thailand and check out yourself for real. If all else fails tell your lady to jump in a boat and do what other people do she will get a house fone and free money from the UK government bcoz doing it legit doesn't work.
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@Kevin **********
ThatĀ“s so disgusting. We get invaded by all the wrong people here in Europe that nobody invited, they come through organized crime and will never fit in our society. They build parallel societies and become the majority sooner or later. When you try the legal way you get robbed by your government, its such a headache.Kevin ***********
@Klaus *****
yes and the majority of these boat people are you single men so what does that tell you if governments in Europe cannot see through this then there's no hope for any European countries going forward, hence the reason I shall be leaving the United nations oops I mean United Kingdom which isn't really united for pastures newReply to
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71 and 41 I would say one and done! 30 years is not necessarily the point at all, it is the fact you don't understand - the culture is what everyone here is trying to tell you . . . If you are from the UK it is understood by that reason alone that you are the super star . . . Oh you will find out, it's not a horror story but if your support ever has to be cut off for whatever in life happens, so will the relationship and that's the fact you cannot dispute!
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@Richard **************
''but if your support ever has to be cut off for whatever in life happens, so will the relationship'' If that were true you are merely renting a wife. Good luck with that.Richard ***************
@Rae *****
yes exactly. That was my advice! Pretty pointless topic on this page though!Reply to
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@Richard **************
Ah, another cynic. I'm retired and for the first couple of years in the US, I did support my wife. However, she soon decided that she wanted to work and she now generates more that half our combined income. She would be just fine without me. And no, she's not working just for the money; she's working because she loves to be doing something.Richard ***************
@Kent *******
and you know the drill to even attempt to get a woman to the UK take six years but youāre right itās up to the party who wants to do it Iām just telling you what Iāve been through and how many have been through. I stayed here and as soon as tough times came, it was adios! The funny thing is now that the next guyās train she got on fell on hard times and Iām doing fine. Guess who wants to come back?Richard ***************
@Kent *******
Iām talking about if you stay in this country! I think maybe about 15 or 20% actually want to leave and Iāve heard the same thing as you they want to work at something! Iām curious also why are you on a Thai Visa site when youāre living in the states?Kent ********
@Richard **************
Thinking about moving to Thailand at the first of next year.Kent ********
@Richard **************
You said, "if your support ever has to be cut off for whatever in life happens, so will the relationship and that's the fact you cannot dispute." Yes, I certainly can dispute it. The fact that your woman was with you only for the money does not reflect well on you. Yes, it's certainly a flaw in her character, but it's also indicative that you may have little else to offer. Personally, I have no doubt that if I lost every penny, my wife would take care of me for the rest of my life. We are bonded by more than money.Richard ***************
@Kent *******
it was very hard for her to leave, but the pressure was enormous again you donāt know what youāre talking about the split up took two years! I only said at the end thatās the reason she left, in this case and not your wifeās case the family is indigent, and they want to buy the land around the farm. They have to put rubber trees on. They have a motive behind her and push her. For all I know your wifeās whole family could be dead. She doesnāt have any land here. She doesnāt have any reason to come back. Youāre not being forthcoming on the details and just chalking it up to youāre such a great guy! And again it goes to my point if youāre happy and settled in America, what are you doing on a Thai visa site donāt you have anything better to do? Weāre all here cause weāre trying to figure out ways to stay legally. It sounds like you got paradise. Why are you joining in this fray RidiculousReply to
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Perhaps you're right and things are different for you. Still worth doing your due diligence before making rash decisions. The stakes are very high, and catastrophic to your life if you get it wrong. How many broken men do you think had the same thoughts in their heads before learning the hard way?
Some material for your own edification There's hundreds more stories like this on the one channel alone. Good Luck:
Some material for your own edification There's hundreds more stories like this on the one channel alone. Good Luck:
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Mark *******
There are a lot of good stories and a lot of bad stories of life in Thailand as for me I couldnāt be happier been with my wife for 15 years in Australia and moving back to Thailand permanently next year itās what you make of it a lot of foreigners donāt treat their wives/ girlfriendās respect and love and there are some sad stories out there but good luck and wish you well I am sure you will be happy
John *********
Donāt listen to the negative comments. I married a Thai woman 35, no 36 years ago. We live half the year in Thailand and the other half in another country.
Malcolm *******
Be wise, look before you leap in everything
Peter *******
Online relationships aren't real in any country, you have to meet, spend time together and see, in real life it won't be the same as online
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@Peter ******
I later discovered that during the first few weeks we were chatting, her older sister was sitting just out of sight of the camera. I didn't know that she was there, but she was judging and vetting me. After she approved, my wife was much more comfortable about me.Kent ********
@Peter ******
In one way, online has an advantage over traditional dating. Traditionally, you meet and immediately know if there's a physical attraction, then you start dating, and soon you have sex. Once you start sex, it colors your outlook on everything, but often before you have really gotten to know each other completely. Sometimes you then discover that you really aren't all that compatible except for sex. Online, sex is not an option, so you get to know each other much better before you meet and before sex can even be an option. I think that it can actually build a much stronger foundation if you take the time before meeting (my wife and I video chatted hundreds of hours over many months before meeting).Peter *******
@Kent *******
i realised early when i was internet dating that it's a waste of time continuing after the initial meet online, meet up in real life ASAP. In Thailand it's quite likely the women will persevere for obvious reasonsKent ********
@Peter ******
I agree that online dating can have issues in any country, but that doesn't mean that it can't have merit. As I said below, there is some advantage in getting to know someone very well before actually meeting. And why are you so cynical regarding Thai women; many of them are wonderful people.Peter *******
@Kent *******
I'm not cynical about Thai women, you imagined that, it's a fact that they go with men because they are much more financially better off. It's an easy test, the mans wealth vs woman's wealth, it's a good guide, if you deny it you aren't being honest with yourselfKent ********
@Peter ******
You may think that it's "a fact", but I disagree. It may be true in many cases, but that does not make it a universal fact. If you view everything in such simplistic terms, then you aren't being honest with yourself.Reply to
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@Peter ******
I agree, but online can be a start. My wife and I spent hundreds of hours video chatting before I flew to Thailand to actually meet her. And yes, even all that video chatting didn't completely prepare us for the actual meeting. It did, however, give us a very good start. I'll admit that it's a bit strange at first; it's like meeting a stranger that you already know very well, but the strangeness wears off very quickly since you have already gotten to know each other in advance.Mark ********
@Kent *******
same for me. Met my wife online 12 years ago. Met her in person 6 months later met her in person. She moved here 4 years later and now an Australian citizen. Contributes to finances substantially and send some money back to her grandmom. She is an absolute gem! 24 years my junior. Im' a lucky man. I chose carefully.
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@Kent *******
the relationship is more honest if you meet in real life ASAP, in Thailand the women may continue for the reasons we all knowKent ********
@Peter ******
All of your suspicion about the motives of women makes me wonder if, perhaps, you have had numerous bad experiences with Thai women or women in general. My observation has always been that when a man has had bad experiences with several women, Occam's Razor would indicate that the fault more likely lies with the man rather than with the several women.Peter *******
@Kent *******
No you're wrong again, never had a bad experience with a Thai woman but i understand how it works here, I'm not in denial like some. You agree many/most thai women are with men much older for money?Kent ********
@Peter ******
OK, yes I agree that it is often the case, but I also believe that it is often not. I would agree with "many", but not necessarily with "most." Also, I don't think that there is anything unique about Thailand or relationships between Thai women and farang men. I've seen many situations where an American woman is mostly interested in the wealth of an American man (and in one case, vice versa), but I also know of many where the money is irrelevant. I don't think that we can generalize.Kent ********
@Peter ******
That's true in any country. Don't judge Thailand too harshly.Peter *******
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Jim ***********
Why want her move to expensive UK? Why don't you move thailand? Far cheaper, better weather and visa so easy.? Who's idea her move to UK?
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@Jim **********
that's exactly what I done left the shitty uk tax on tax on tax, moved Thailand 1 year ago at 53 and such an amazing country and I feel so much better and less stressed. I met a lovely woman that don't want money, she wants honest man and love is more important to herJim ***********
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nearly 3 years I've been Thailand absolutely no chance live uk again. More freedom Thailand than in UK, everything taxed to hilt uk nowReply to
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I met my Thai wife online 14 years ago and we're still very happy together. We have always lived in the US, but are considering moving to Thailand. However, she is not in the US because she prefers to be here; she's only here because of me. If I should die, she would be back in Thailand immediately to stay, taking my ashes with her. Don't make any assumptions or generalizations. I can attest that some Thai women have no motive other than love.
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Oye mate, sorry people were shitty about it. However, tread softly. I am VERY well versed in this subject through: I married a Thai and through her I see the antics of friends and family. It is a much more subtle issue than most people give it credit for.
Jim ************
Sounds like you need Dr. Phil
Steve **********
There are a lot of sad, pathetic, jaded alcohol fueled Neanderthals in most of these groups. Dismiss the BS and listen to the constructive feedback.
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Was there a question here?
Not everyone typecasts people. But fact is that many relationships between Thais and foreigners are in fact transactional. That doesn't take away from the relationship, it is just a cultural difference and acceptance and it doesn't apply to all. It's just one of many forms intercultural relationships can take.
Not everyone typecasts people. But fact is that many relationships between Thais and foreigners are in fact transactional. That doesn't take away from the relationship, it is just a cultural difference and acceptance and it doesn't apply to all. It's just one of many forms intercultural relationships can take.
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@Tony *********
most western marriages are transactional at some point too. Despite the new world order wanting you too believe women want to be strong independent women they will drop a man like a hot potatoes when he can no longer provideKent ********
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The relationships between any two people are often transactional.Reply to
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It's not always about scaming, but many Thai ladies don't earn alot of money and have commitments to look after thier mother or family so there is an expectation that her partner will make a contribution to that cause, which can lead to "scams: in some cases. Just don't rush things.
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It's a 5 year visa journey to the UK for her, if you get married and want her permanently residing with British Residence Card (BRC) and meet the financials.
Otherwise a 6 month visit visa every year, if the visa rules are not broken and financials are met.
I brought my then Thai GF over for the summer months, then visited her during our winter months.
We got married here and went down the 5 year residency route so she could work, pay taxes etc. But we are now both heading to Thailand as UK has lost its way a bit and forecasts are not favourable unless you love paying taxes!
Otherwise a 6 month visit visa every year, if the visa rules are not broken and financials are met.
I brought my then Thai GF over for the summer months, then visited her during our winter months.
We got married here and went down the 5 year residency route so she could work, pay taxes etc. But we are now both heading to Thailand as UK has lost its way a bit and forecasts are not favourable unless you love paying taxes!
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@Paul *******
you still pay taxes on your UK income e even though you live in Thailand. BTW I followed exact same route as you and have now left the UK and don't miss it at all.
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@Tim ***********
sale of the primary house in the UK does not attract tax so will maximise tax efficiency via the interest from the capital investment. Get some ISAs on the go before leaving. SP in 9 years so that and the tax free interest should keep us ok. Assuming tax allowances increases to match SP value. You won't win elections if the SP becomes taxable! That would be as popular as the short lived Poll Tax!Tim ************
@Paul *******
sure sale of sole residences not taxable. However if you have any income of pensions >Ā£40 k plus state pension that is taxable. Atm only Ā£20k p/a can be put in Isa, most investement trusts pay more than an isa, after the first Ā£1,000 interest p/a thats taxable too.
So leaving the UK doesnt save me a penny in tax.
I have a Canadian pe sion too which never enters the uk yet the HMRC tax that too!
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@Tim ***********
I have dual citizenship, UK and Canada, I receive two Canadian pensions and have never paid tax on them in the UK in the twenty years I've been receiving them.Tim ************
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@Tim ***********
I pay tax on them which is minimal but every year without fail I receive a tax rebate of about 3 or 4 hundred dollars.Even though I am a Canadian citizen living outside the country I am classified as a non resident for tax purposes.Tim ************
@John ******
interesting John When I left Canada my accountant told me I needed to sever all ties with Canada and my pensions are paid tax free in Canada but declared in the UK.
Perhaps you're getting 3 UK and Cdn tax allowance which I'm told you cannot do.
My accountant specialises in Canada / UK taxation, if he's got it wrong I'd live the evidence so I can reclaim Ā£Ā£Ā£
I pay over Ā£5,500 in UK for my Cdn pensions plus my normal taxing the UK on all income above Ā£12,000.
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@Tim ***********
I don't know if this is relevant but I have a mailing address in Canada, my niece has power of attorney and takes care of all my financial dealings with the RBC and deals with the accountant who does my tax returns. Hope this is helpful.Tim ************
@John ******
thanks John can I ask,do you submit tax returns in uk and Canada?I've actually written to Lynch accountant today for some clarification.
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Rowan *********
First of all, I donāt mean this with any disrespect. just offering a bit of perspective. You have to ask yourself: why would someone 30 years younger be genuinely attracted to someone significantly older? This isnāt aimed at you personally, itās a general observation. Itās not about being cynical, just realistic. That kind of age gap often runs counter to typical human nature.
Youāve said youāre not gullible, and I respect that. But itās worth remembering that some women are very, very skilled at playing the long game. They can come across as patient, affectionate, and sincere, sometimes for even months or even years before revealing other motives.
That said, there absolutely are genuine ones, and I sincerely hope the woman youāre speaking to is one of them. Still, trust is something thatās earned over time. Itās always wise to move forward with caution
Youāve said youāre not gullible, and I respect that. But itās worth remembering that some women are very, very skilled at playing the long game. They can come across as patient, affectionate, and sincere, sometimes for even months or even years before revealing other motives.
That said, there absolutely are genuine ones, and I sincerely hope the woman youāre speaking to is one of them. Still, trust is something thatās earned over time. Itās always wise to move forward with caution
Mark ******
All I will say is mo ey. Including g obligations and debts, should be part of the conversation. For me, financial stability was certainly part of the attraction in the beginning for her, but next year her income will surpass mine after I got her business going. Two kids, good life for both of us now and well after I'm gone. More bad stories than good but that does not mean successful relationships with large age differences are not possible. Do your homework. Good luck!
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good adviceReply to
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awesome advice š¦David *******
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likewise why would she choose some so culturally different when thai 70 year old men are plentiful ?Todd *********
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and better lookingReply to
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thought I would reply to your comment hope you don't mind. My wife is 30 years younger than me and we have been married 14 years now. She's waiting a long time for my money in fact I use hers šGary ********
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cos he's an ATM. End of reasoningBill **********
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Good adviceSribenja *************
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absolutely rowan, you hit it on the headReply to
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Mark ******
Go there live with her for over a month
Carl *********
Agreed. The ex-pats who have chosen to live in such a beautiful place, yet hold an over-arching stereotype about Thai women, are a disgrace.
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they just have experience ..they talk right!Wayne ********
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And they talk shit sometimes, you left that bit outCarl *********
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so no Thai woman has ever fallen in love? Jog on.Daniele *******
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here we are obviously generalizing.. we cannot talk about every single case.. but the reality of the facts is that generally a Thai woman is unlikely to really fall in love with a Western man, met online and 30 years "older" than her.. but obviously there are exceptions.. the advice here is general.. based on the real attitude of Thai women in relationships with Western men (especially with a significant age difference)... then whoever wants to continue dreaming can do so...Reply to
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