It seems Wise is taking longer and longer to transfer "Funds for Long term stay in Thailand". Last month I made my monthly transfer and it had taken a few days.. In the middle of the month I had to make another transfers, they quoted me 1 week. I just made my monthly transfer and again they quoted me one week. I immediately transfer funds for "travel expenses" and its there in a few minutes
Anybody else have this experience?
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Users are experiencing significant delays when using Wise for transfers categorized as 'Funds for Long Term Stay in Thailand'. Commonly, such transfers are treated as international transactions, which can take longer (often quoted as several days to a week) due to additional processing required compared to domestic transfers utilized for 'general living expenses'. Several community members highlighted that specifying reasons for transfers affects processing time, with 'general living expenses' often resulting in much faster transactions. Others recommended alternative services like Remitly for quicker transfers, albeit with potentially less favorable exchange rates.
I've begun having the same issue of long delays with Wise. When I make a transfer it takes 5-7 days despite the fact the funds leave my account in the US within a day of initiating the transfer.
I've begun using Remitly instead of Wise. The exchange rate isn't as good but it is much quicker transferring the money.
I too had this problem a few weeks ago. Having a couple degrees in financial markets I asked customer service some very direct questions. First I got the run around then they sent me their annual report and I actually read it.
Here’s what is happening. 50% from them and 50% from interpreting their annual report.
Volatile currency markets is a huge risk for for Wise. If you place an order on the weekend and the THBUSD gaps down before they can settle the transaction, they lose. This is where their rate guarantee comes in. They guarantee the rate for just 48 hours now, and if the money takes longer than that they are at risk.
This is what they do. If you transfer THBUSD at 34 on Friday night after the transfer window they guarantee that rate until Monday. If your money doesn’t arrive until Tuesday and the spot rate is now 33.5, your guarantee is expired and they transfer you at 33.5. If the rate is more favorable, say 34.5, they honor your 34 rate and call the .5 difference a cost of sales adjustment.
We are seeing longer periods of transfers to hedge their risk and decrease their costs, especially in volatile markets.
The last paragraph in this section of their annual report is most relevant.
It should be noted, but maybe not perfectly clear, by taking a few extra days this offers them a great opportunity to see a swing in rates and sell you THBUSD at 33.5 when they could get it for 34 as the example indicates.
Yes, it takes longer when using the Funds for long term stay, it always has when I use that option.
Made the mistake of sending it over a public holiday two months ago it took a week. Generally it takes around 4-5 days for it to be transferred when I use that option
Its not wise it's the Thai banks as they do more checks ,but don't select long term stay for the transfer select for monthly expenses it works faster , also do the transfer in the morning as well it makes a difference
it depends on the amount it seems, if I stay below say $4000 it takes seconds, if I go above it takes 2 days, if you go to the next level say $10,000 it can take up to a week
I just made A couple of transactions, one was coded general living expenses, and the detail page is very vague about origin of funds, came through in seconds. I did same transaction using long term stay option, also came through in seconds and on details page it has a comment in reason field “ long term visa requirement” so I think that clarifies it….sadly, folks who have spent a year clocking up their monthly 65k transfer without using correct reason will hit a snag with immig…thanks Brendan for clarifying this
Every month but usually arrives by the next day or one day more at the most. I called them as asked why it took so long when before it was there in minutes. Thats why I left western union. Now a day or two.they said it was the banks timeframe.
"Long term stay" transfers settle next business day usually 2pm with Bangkok Bank as there's a manual process involved. You didn't say which bank and if a public holiday involved
If you make smaller transfers, should be instant. There is a FAQ on the website that gives you to limit for instant, vs waiting. Then just make several instants vs one big one per month.
When I use Wise, money transfered regardless of whether either of the banks is open for retail banking business. It usually takes seconds but occasionally takes an hour or 2. Today was 2 hours, but nothing to do with bank opening hours in London or Bangkok
For visa, buying condo etc income Wise need to send funds abroad not their thai account so there some delay ofcourse. family support came in second from Belgium few million bahts.
When you say anything other than for long term stay, it's an internal transfer from a Wise account in Thailand. When you say long term stay it's a SWIFT transfer from your country to Thailand. Both banks have to be open (not a weekend, public holiday in either country) and business hours in both countries. Many things to cause delays. No one is holding your money intentionally!
A lot of people on here do not realise the significance of getting transfers marked as international. To get that use long term stay and Bangkok bank and it takes 24 hours.
the time comes when you have to get a new long term visa stamp and some require 12 monthly payments into your Thai bank account that show as international transfers on your bank statement and in your bank book. For me it is 12 x
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baht. Miss one or have it marked as inter bank transfer and you don't get your stamp.
Or get a letter from your bank confirming that yiur monthly transfers for living expenses came from abroad , you can also show a printed wise account statement that shows where the funds came from
oK. Thanks. It seems that it’s a visa-specific thing. If your visa doesn’t require a Thai bank account, then I take it that the characterization of the transfers won’t matter.
I have been lucky with WISE transfers, I transfer THB 65,000+ every month from my U.S. bank account to my Thai Bangkok Bank account and it posts the next day at around 2:30 PM Thai time. Not sure what issues cause longer transfer times for others.
same here for several years...2.01pm on the dot the next working day. I suspect the OP has an account with one of the non preferred banks (i.e.not BKK bank or Kasikorn etc.which can accept direct international transfers)
i see these posts all the time and I can't help ask why? Every single transaction bar 1 or 2 over say 100-200k bht have been instantanious, wondering if there are reasons yourrs take a long time
When they ask what the money is for, always answer that it's for general living expenses. My transfers when that is the reason take from seconds to 3 or so hours.
that's not possible for people that are using Wise to show monthly transfers for their visa extensions. Those transfers must show as an international transfer and therefore you have to select the reason for "long term stay" so it codes correctly for immigration.
when I checked with my bank SCB last year , they confirmed code for general living expenses showed it came from outside Thailand have I missed something
That's what I thought. I thought my bank Bangkok Bank. required Wise to make a special desgination that the funds come from overseas, otherwise I couldn't use those funds for things like buying property or proof of funds/income.
yep got that but when I checked with by bank they told me it was an external transfer - I will enquire further , otherwise it negates Wise completely and back to inflated bank charges and crap exchange rates
So has this changed in the last 6 months, as I queried this with SCB and they assured me that it was coded on my bank statement as an international transfer from Wise they also explained the different codes to - me who identifies this ? the bank when they do the letter for immig, or are immigration officers conversant with the various different banks transfer codes ? I also have local transfers into my account and codes are definitely different - this can have serious consequences for many people, as wise is widely used so important we get facts straight - I will try to verify with both my bank and immig (in Phuket at least) during the course of the week.
it is true. I played around with it myself last week. If it comes through straight away and less than 5000 baht it does nit get flagged as international trsnsfer but just a bank to bank transfer instead.
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