@Rattapon *************

thank you Rattapon! This seems intuitive.

@Bob *********

that's what I thought, but the lawyer answer made it sound more like this was after voluntary surrender. (Lawyer unaffiliated with any car sales) and implied the prices were low because of the stigma. But he also said something about it happening after maintenance issues- like people would drop the cars off when the warranty expired. It was pretty unclear.

@Stelar ******

my embassy did not want it. My embassy gave me notarised copy of passport and Affidavits free to marry. Then MFA must counter stamp. Then local Amphoe will need Lady paper. But somebody incompetent wanted Lady paper at MFA

@Stelar ******

no it's because her ID isn't part of the process until the local level. There were 5 guys getting the same papers as me at the embassy. It's two documents about me. MFA asks for those two documents translated to Thai. There is no "and signed copies of her ID" at that step. If I wanted to stay in a hotel for a week and play the daily lottery of if the MFA would let us in or not I'd have her with me and we could do it on the fly. If MFA asked for it as a regular thing the agent would've collected a copy when doing the translation. But this was a case of one person talking out their ass and other people not willing to call the person on it and it snowballing into an issue it didn't need to be.

@Dave *********

yeah that is my planned approach.

@Michael *******

because I went to Bangkok and had an appointment and they didn't ask for it then I went home. Now they want another day of running around and then waiting on post and there are potential timeline issues. It turns out that the lawyer told the agent that they will start requiring it at some point and the agent told automaton staff that can't think of reason independently to just get it from me.

When I can easily just do a thing I am pretty good about remembering this is Thailand. When it has potentially thousands of baht as well as other real world consequences I've got less Buddha in me.

@Vincent *******

also plus one

@Vincent *******

plus one

@Dave *********

I got lost a bit in the thread here. You were approved right? We don't have as much history (2 years) but have most of the other stuff ticked off of my application prep list. Land, stamps, marriage incoming, me based here etc...

@Frank *********

I saw the same one and agree with your point about how the anecdotal evidence implies a different story. I think people who have a smooth road just don't post as often.