I am from the US and marrying a woman from Hua Hin. I want to have her visit the states and possibly stay for an extended visit. What are my visa options. How long does it usually take to get visa?
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An American citizen looking to have his Thai fiancé visit the U.S. has several options, mainly the B2 tourist visa and the K1 fiancé visa. The B2 visa usually takes about 9-12 months to process, while the K1 visa can take approximately 12-16 months. It's challenging for Thai citizens to obtain U.S. visas due to strict requirements, particularly if a relationship with a U.S. citizen is disclosed, which may lead to a higher likelihood of denial. Documentation proving strong ties to Thailand, such as employment, property ownership, or financial stability, can improve chances of approval. Consulting the U.S. Embassy's website is advisable for up-to-date guidance and requirements.
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Vincent ********
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if I just came back to Thailand to visit from US how long can I stay on current stamp?
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Frank **********
What it all really depends on is the interview. The Interviewer can deny your visa. They do not have to tell you why and you cannot appeal the decision. You can just try again.
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JP **********
I have been waiting 2 years this month, we’re told to expect appointment for embassy interview in January at soonest, but I have heard of people getting it done in 18 months
From experience.... She's going to be denied. As soon as they hear/see boyfriend, fiance, husband is from u.s....they automatically deny it, even before she gets there for the interview. You have only 3 options. K1 finance visa, which is about a 10-16 month wait right now. A spouse visa which is over 2 year wait right now...OR find someone from the UK or some other country, not Thai or u.s., to have a fake relationship with, then when she applies she can say she's going with her UK boyfriend to visit sites and parks ECT. Unless she has a legit business in Thailand that she pays taxes on, or works for that would be willing to say they're sending her for business purposes, she has zero chance of getting a tourist visa right now. The way it was told to us before was, they stop illegal immigrants where they have control. Meaning the ones trying to do it with visas. They automatically assume she's coming and planning to get married while on tourist visa, and stay. No matter how untrue it may be. We travelled to many other countries together, ones she needed visas for, some she didn't. Gave every reason why neither of us has plans to stay in America at all. Detailed plans of the trip. Plenty of money in the bank and possessions and property she owns in Thailand. All the supporting documents PLUS many more. Interview day, she waited about an hour for her interview, they asked 3 questions, and gave her a PRE-PRINTED denial notice. Her interview literally lasted less than 1 minute.
Mark ***********
We tried to get a visa before we got married and it was impossible. As soon as we got married we got an interview, all they asked to see was my original passport, they studied it for 5 minutes, saw multiple stamps of trips back and forth, they gave her a nice smile and said things look. Give us two weeks, and she had a 10-year multiple entry visa after that.
so you applied for a visitor visa after you were married i was told by multiple agencies that once married its dam near impossible to get visa and have you already filed for spousal visa hell give me dome pointers please ive been married now for almost 6 months thai marriage have not started spousal visa yet im planning on retiring there next year so no hurry on that but would love to get her here to help pack things up over here help please
how long did it take and did you go thru an agency and did you already apply for spousal visa when you applied for the visitor visa i just want to get the wife over here for awhile to see the usa before i retire and move to thailand
we went directly though the consulate. Spousal visa app only. We had previously failed with both a tourist visa and a student visa. Both were rejected.
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Brad *******
Thanks for the question. Following the reply’s.
Brian *******
The most common question you will be asked is how long have you known her??
Reading about the experience of others is helpful. The OP could have phrased the question differently asking to hear about what others have gone through rather than for "how to".
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Andy **********
If you're planning on marrying her why don't you just do the K2 Visa? That way she can stay here
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So are you saying get the K2 in America get married in America then have Thailand recognize the marriage?
you can do the paperwork yourself but your best option is to hire a reputable service or attorney in Thailand to assist you in taking care of the logistics that need be there. They will help you prepare all the paperwork and assist your fiance through the interview process to obtain the Visa. Most of them will accommodate travel to and from the embassy in Bangkok. It will cost in between 1500 and 3,000 USD. But you're still going to have to educate yourself quite a bit, there's a ton of help on YouTube
It's a commitment definitely. In the long term she will have to stay here for about 3 to 5 years until she can obtain her citizenship and then you're both free to move back and forth between the two countries. Getting a marriage visa for Thailand is very easy for you. I've known people that have done it in less than 2 weeks.
We went thru all that starting 9 years ago almost to the day. Got her residency (Green Card) and still waiting on her citizenship. One big problem now is up until almost COVID you could call the USCIS on the phone and actually talk to some one, now, no way. The other, her green card never showed up and it was supposedly sign off by our mail carrier, she claims she never did. I went all the way up the ladder and finally got a hold of a shift supervisor at the company that prints them in Chesapeake, Maryland and where the card originates. He told me thousand of cards are.stolen within the post office weekly, so watch out for that.
When was thus, are you including the plane ticket? 9 years ago it was nothing like that for green card
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Bill *********
Super hard for a Thai to get a tourist visa to the US. One thing they want to see is that they have been to other countries and returned to Thailand. Get her a Schengin visa and go on a vacation to Europe. It's easier to get than US visa. Also does she own property or have a good job? It helps. I just resently wrote an invitation letter for a friend and he was denied because he had never been outside of Thailand.
any land/house? If so, she may have a better chance than most.
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Plans are to buy a house in December or January
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Riaan **********
With all these stringent requirements the US place on Thai citizens to visit, I really cant believe that Thailand still welcomes US citizens with open arms and withoit visas, no wonder the new 90 days were only granted to Russian citizens
of course Thailand welcomes US citizens....they bring tourist money. If the US welcomed every poor Thai girl they would have the same problem with Thais as they do with poor Mexicans and South Americans living there illegally and still somehow getting all the social programs for poor people. at a cost of approximately $150Billion USD per year. I'm curious as to how much Russia provides to illegal aliens per year? There are an estimated 11.4 million unauthorized immigrants living in the United States.....how many are there in Russia?
your not a US citizen so what the hell you know. The US gives a 10 year multi entry visa and you can stay for 6 mos. The US is tough but much more generous than Thailand. And it's a pain in the ass to get a retirement visa in Thailand. If you know not then speak not!
so you are telling me a Thai citizen can just fly to the US, nothing re-arranged, and get stamped in for 30 days, and get extended to 60? Just like US citizens can do when they come to Thailand. If so, its great news
people with US tourist visa can stay 6 Mo's at a time. How much does Thailand give farangs, at most 90 days. Unless you know the visa requirements of every country you shouldn't make such stupid comments
If she had money (7K to 14K US) in the bank and could show strong ties to Thailand (that she would return too), that goes a long way but as already stated, it's VERY difficult for a Thai citizen to get a US tourist visa. It's ridiculous really. You are better off visiting her in Thailand unless you marry her but marriage brings its own problems. Do your research and think carefully before you make any life changing decisions. Cultural differences can be a bitch.
I give you some tips from a recent experience: basically, talking about normal tourist visa, they need to be sure that she will come back to Thailand. Based on this, a plus will be if she has a job in Thailand or own a company or any other assets. She needs to prepare a brief about her job, what she does, and a genuine tourist plan where she explain what she wanna visit and why. There are various fb groups for thai people where they post experiences every day, can be very useful for her to join them.
Agree. Dating or marrying a Thai woman it is never a bad idea to learn the language and perhaps understand what is going on around you.
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Bonnie *********
Have you checked the US Embassy website? That's should always be the first step.
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Rod *******
My wife is Thai and I am a USA citizen and I started the fiance visa in the USA in October 2013 and she reported to Thai embassy for interview in May 2014 and was approved and she came into the states on June 24th and we had to marry within 90 days of her arrival. Was not too difficult and think around 680 USDollars if I recall correctlly.
we went though that and also my wife's purse was stolen at place she works so she had everything, green card, FL driver's license, credit cards and money. We notified them and after a year or so they send letter that we need to pay for redoing green card which was chump change.
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Peter *********
Just walk across the southern border like everyone else.
Christopher ***********
All English speaking Countries are police states (I’m from U.K.). That’s good enough reason to live elsewhere. My Mrs applied to USA to work in her Aunt’s restaurant in Amarillo and was refused. Sister-in-law turned down for Australia. Step-daughter applied to Australia and was recently (last week) refused a tourist visa. Nephew worked in Japan for 12 months and now has a three-year contract for an engineering company in Taiwan. Western Countries need to get stuffed.
that is exactly it, except for maybe Ireland. US, UK, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada have the five eyes treaty. It started for terrorism, but now they share their immigration screen. If you are rejected at one, you will probably be rejected at all of them, especially for tourist visas. To answer the OP’s original question, are usually goes like this, you submit a long and difficult application, what a year for an interview, and they throw you out. I visited the trendy building in Bangkok, we’re Thai people apply for a Schengen visa, and also the US consulate. US consulate is full of supplicants begging for visas which they will not get and the trendy building is full of applicants, who probably will if I get a visa if they meet the requirements.
To obtain a visa for these countrys is not easy. You need to be able to prove that the applicant has sufficient ties with Thailand to ensure that she will not overstay and has sufficient funds for her stay. I successfully assisted my wife and her adult daughter obtain tourist visa for Australia.
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Joshua **********
Sorry but in my experience trying they won’t give her a tourist visa.
Steffen ********
Pretty much a fuckup by the looks of it…
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Robert ***********
Good luck with that.
You better make sure she knows your birthdate, how old you are, what town and state you come from, where you worked, the names of all your family members, the names and ages and birthdays of any children from a prior marriage, your blood type, your medical history, the names of your parents, the license plate of your car as well as the make and model you drive in the states, etc.
I am being dramatic but when you get to the interview stage they are going to deny her if she doesn't know a good portion of that.
It's easier to get her a plane ticket and visa to Mexico and have her meet you at the border in Texas. When you guys are done visiting she can fly home. 😉
If you look at business travel a good portion of visas are approved.
If you look at single female the refusal rate is extremely high because of the trafficking issues in prostitution and massage.
Sure if you pull all applicants together I could see the percentage of refusal being in the 20+ percentile.
I would bet a years salary that they might approve 1 out of every 200 single females and that this category is the highest rejection category with single males under 35 the next.
The US does not want women in prostitution nor do they want male overstays working unauthorized.
you said my links do not show true categoryies, I agree, yet Gabriel Pierce was able to claim they supported his opinion. I see your opinion is also just that a opinion.
My opinion, I agree the US does not want prostitution or overstayers so if you clearly show they are not criminals, prostitutes or likely to overstay, that's why I saud the documention was so important in my first post. they get Visa the first time. I had two Thai Wifes, over 50 years of coming to Thailand. and no ,problems getting either visas nor have most of my friends but if you want to believe the US rejects 97 percent go for it.
the document you’ve provided speaks to overall admission to include multiple attempts…if u do a deeper dive on that site u will see that on first attempt nearly everyone is rejected (Thai females)….subsequent attempts yield better results
This is not how B2 visa interviews go. You might get 2 or 3 total questions. They have reviewed the file prior to the interview and likely have already made their decision. The questions are obligatory to some degree, but there is an opportunity to turn a no in to a yes with the right preparation and a little confidence. If the first thing you do when you walk up is smile and give a nice greeting and ask if they can review the best part of your prepared documents or ask a real specific question about the interview or if you can ask or say something in Thai, it can interrupt the no flow long enough to maybe turn the tide.
Important to note that some of the IOs will ask gotcha questions about things that may have been off on the application and that can be confusing for a non-native English speaker... so confidence in English or even being careful and requesting clarification instead of just saying yes reflexively can go a long way.
Frank **********
Not always... In my wife's first interview, they started talking to her in English and she just responded in English not knowing that Thai was an option. It resulted in her answering a question incorrectly because she didn't understand the subtlety of a question about the differences between "partner" "wife" and "defacto" and which one she qualified as... Her second interview started in Thai and the IO wanted to switch to English because he felt she should know enough to have a basic conversation.
I have a friend that works in one of the Asian embassies (not Thailand) and he has pretty much explained how applications get processed. And there are so many variables one of which is visa return status for prior holders. When they have more overstays for a period they reduce approvals. There is an unofficial cap which contributes to future approvals.
And let me add that this is one of those situations that knowing someone inside really does nothing because in many cases the approval is not done at the local level.
And I was being sarcastic with the questions in my post.
my wife interview was less then 3 minutes and the question was where we would travel to. I did my planning as she was joint on my Thai and US Bank Accounts for a couple years had a job with documentation, land titles several entry and exits stamos, and so on. Clearly she intended to return so visa granted,
I got lost a bit in the thread here. You were approved right? We don't have as much history (2 years) but have most of the other stuff ticked off of my application prep list. Land, stamps, marriage incoming, me based here etc...
yes I forgot to mention when she applied we had been married 4 years, large age difference, and I showed I had been here at that time 12 years. You would lose your bet on 97 percent .
nearly 20 years in Thailand working as an administrator at a large international school where dozens of male teachers attempted just this…my own experience bringing my long time thai wife to the USA and the struggles involved in that and finally the fact that the usa embassy advertises this policy and makes no excuses for it
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Wylie *******
Little to no chance of her getting a tourist visa with a US boyfriend/fiance. Fiance visa is likely the best option but takes a long time.
unless she is a Thai government employee with accompanying documentation staying she is returning and family responsibilities here in Thailand covering years with government and extended family. It is the interview process that is the important part. My wife Department of Healtj) got a 10 year US Visa without a problem. But that was us.
everybody I know that's gone to the interview, both in Bangkok and chiang mai, said they only ask a couple of extremely basic questions at most and nothing about any ties here. No chance to explain anything. Perhaps your wife got special treatment.
maybe because she is 30+ year as an employed government employee. Or because she tiold the interviewer to stop trying to speak Thai and speak English for his Thai was terrible....5555
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Danielle ********
I am currently on month 6 of a Fiancé application and still nothing from US except acknowledging the application
Btw it needs to be filed in the US not the embassy . $575 non refundable fee and be sure to do all the required paperwork and supporting documents
this information is somewhat benign… the applications being processed during Covid is irrelevant and shouldn’t be in the graph, and the center that I applied to (California ) flat out told me expect 9-12 months processing time. As I stated it’s been 6 months now with zero response so I wouldn’t get someone’s hopes up with the “6 months timeframe” as things progress I’ll do updates so others have an idea
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Frank **********
Go to the American Embassy website in Thailand and it will tell you.
Brandon ************
You need to do a LOT more research than asking a question on a Facebook group. It's incredibly difficult for Thai people to get a visa to the US and if they know she's engaged or even has a US boyfriend there's no chance she'll get a tourist visa to the US.
You can apply for the fiance visa but I believe it takes about 14 months to process currently.
This is not accurate. A girlfriend, partner, or wife can get a tourist visa. It is more challenging to demonstrate sufficient ties to Thailand if that particular American they are with does not also have sufficient ties to Thailand, so that is a thing... But it is not a hard no if there is a strong enough case that they will return. My wife (then unemployed girlfriend) was able to get a 10 year B2 visa on her second attempt. I know of at least three other Thai women in similar situations as her that also got the B2 on the first or second try. As long as it is not obviously a backdoor way to get her in to the country to change status or try to work illegally, you have a decent shot at an approval, all other things being equal.
There is no magic formula for approval. No amount of money in the bank or property or job type that makes it a slam dunk. Just provide the facts and make a compelling case.
It helps a lot if the American partner has a significant job in Thailand or is on a Thai Elite visa or has some other clear motivation for being in Thailand full time. I am sure there are many members in this community that were successful and would happily share some personal experiences or best practices... anyways, it is possible. The reported approval rate for B2 visas out of Thailand averages somewhere in the range of 70-75%. Anecdotal evidence not withstanding, Thai people get visas from the US (and Europe, and the UK, and Australia)... It might just take a couple of tries to dial in the application and find the right IO. Anyways, good luck to the OP... it only costs 185 USD to give it a shot... :)
Frank **********
Those are the US reported statistics for Thailand.
I saw the same one and agree with your point about how the anecdotal evidence implies a different story. I think people who have a smooth road just don't post as often.
it's not clear to me if the poster still lives and works in the US or if they live in Thailand. If they're still in the US then a tourist visa will be an almost guaranteed no if she has a US boyfriend. My now wife as well as several of our friends that showed many ties to Thailand have been denied many times. My wife follows several pages on Facebook of Thai women trying for tourist visa and its pretty clear most are denied. Perhaps if the boyfriend is shown to have clear ties and is living in Thailand then it may be a different story. I'm curious where you get your 70-75% approval from? For a single thai women I'd put it at maybe 10-20% at best based on what I've seen.
For Canada next to impossible. Once we got married then she got the visa.
Frank **********
I tried to get a tourist visa for my then girlfriend back in October 22. She went to the interview. Asked about three questions and denied her. Never looked at the supporting documents she took with her showing she had a house and a separate farm and a teenager in school. Obvious ties to Thailand. No explanation on why it was denied, just a little slip of paper given to her basically saying she didn't qualify. Now being married I would imagine it may be a little easier to do,
Coolidge *****
Vincent Errico I would suggest fiancee visafaster than spouse visa gather as must evidence as you can. Pictures together, money remittances, hotel and flight itineraries. If not talk to a immigration lawyer and ask what’s the best option for you
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I was denied too back then for tourist visa they never even bother to look at my supporting documents. So what we did was apply for fiancee visa took 6 months from the day we submitted it, medical and final interview. Good luck on you journey
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Dirk **************
B 2 visa. 9-12 months from the start of the application at the US Embassy until interview and issue. Times might vary.
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