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Can I obtain a residency certificate in Chiang Rai if my visa was issued in another province in Thailand?

Jack ****************
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I feel like what I did at every step was defensible, but somehow the aggregate of these mistakes is disproportionately high...

Bought a motorbike from a dealer. They told me the greenbook would come in the mail. This being Thailand I didn't think twice until the months and months had gone by... I contacted the dealer and they said they were waiting for me to provide them with a certificate of residency.

I was getting ready to move and figured that it made more sense to move and then do the whole process at my new address. So I moved to a little village way north called Chiang Khon. Rented a house and waited a week or so for the landlady to file the TM30... she insisted she knew what to do... I waited... now its a month later before she admits she has no idea what I am talking about. So I figure it out and we get that submitted. In retrospect I guess the TM30 might not be required for the certificate of residence but....

I finally go to immigration and had a terrible experience. Like something from a weird twilight zone episode or something.

The guy behind the counter had no english and could only halfway parse translations using google. He clearly doesn't want to deal with me. He tells me I need to go to Phuket where my visa is from to get a residency certificate. I say that doesn't make sense because that isn't where I am a resident. He asks to look at my passport again and this time he looks for my stamp and he can't find it. Let me repeat that- the guy from immigration didn't know how to find the stamp in my passport. He starts to get all worked up about this and decides I might not have a visa. He starts calling over other people. Pretty soon I am surrounded by agitated Thai's concerned that I am in the country without permission. I was honestly getting ready for the police to show up when a super visor asked to see my passport, saw the stamp, told everyone to calm down, and sent me on my way. I left in a hurry.

I my passport got wet and I had to jump through many weeks worth of hoops to get a replacement and by that time had moved again. Finally, get the new one, a copy of the lease, and I go to the Chiang Rai immigration office where I was told (much more believably so) that you need to get the residency certificate from the province that issued you visa.

Can anyone confirm this is true? And if so, is it something I Can work around? I don't want to pay high season airfare- but want to get the greenbook sorted out.
Answer summary
The user describes their complicated experience obtaining a residency certificate in Thailand after moving, experiencing issues with language barriers at immigration, and bureaucratic confusion regarding visa locations. They seek confirmation about the requirements for securing a residency certificate after relocating from the province where their visa was issued, amidst comments suggesting different practices across provinces, assisting advice, and frustrations with the system.
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Frank-Steven ***********
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John **********
John **********
Have you filed a TM28 change of address form with your new immigration office? The TM30 is for your landlord, the TM28 for you.
Leon ****
Leon ****
I had my visa and TM30 in Chiang Mai. I bought a car in BKK, during the transfer book to my name. I was near Sriracha. So I did my COR at sriracha immigration office. I give my hotel address at sriracha. No problem at all. All done in 20 minutes. I got my book after 1 month by mail. All immigration office might have their own rules. This just my experience at Sriracha immigration office.
Terary **********
Terary **********
I believe you can change your address (TM30), then get a residency certificate from the Immigration Office, where you filed your most recent TM30.

That is how I got my driver's license in Pattaya. My visa was from Khon Kaen, I went to Pattaya immigration, did my TM30 (requires address change), then got my certificate of residence.
Nick ************
Nick ************
@Terary *********
done my TM 30. Got the notification slip. But no certificate of residence because my extension stamp was issued in another province. Just another way of making life difficult.
Terary **********
Terary **********
@Nick ***********
Pay an agency
Kerry ***********
Kerry ***********
Did anybody else read this to the Benny Hill Theme 🤣
Jw ********
Jw ********
Speak with an agent!
Nick ************
Nick ************
I have just been told the same. My Visa extension was issued in Bangkok because I was there when I needed to get it. I have lived in Issan for 3 years, done many 90 day reports and just filed tm30 after returning from UK. In spite of this and the fact I have obtained two certificates of residence in the past local immigration will not issue me another one to re new my driving license. They say I must go back to Bangkok for it where I no longer have an address. It is absurd that they register your residence with one process but then will not for another.
Nick ************
Nick ************
Cant see what there is to laugh about.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
The issue is that every province has their own rules.

I can tell you in Chiang Mai as long as you have a TM30 and are willing to pay the 500 baht "expedited fee" (bribe) they'll issue you a residence certificate to be picked up the next day. Maybe that's an option for you since you're in Chiang Rai.

Checkin to a cheap hotel and ask for TM30 then go get a residence certificate. It'll probably require you to spend 2 nights in ChiangMai though because you must apply before noon on one day to pickup the next day and you wouldn't be able to get a TM30 that early.

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