How does property ownership affect a Thai woman's chances of getting a US visa?

Feb 28, 2023
2 years ago
Jack ****************
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Another thought on the subject of Thai women being able to visit the USA. I've read owning property is a big factor... Do they care much about if it is 1) a home they are the primary lover inner 2) their name is on a family home 3) if it is rice Rai with the family.

Also what is the income threshold where Thai people need to file taxes?
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The discussion revolves around the complexities of Thai women obtaining US tourist visas, particularly the implications of property ownership as a factor. Many commenters emphasize that visa success hinges on demonstrating strong ties to Thailand, such as owning property or having stable employment, which assures the consular officer of the applicant's intent to return. While some have personal success stories, others have faced denials despite presenting substantial evidence, highlighting the unpredictability and subjective nature of the visa approval process.
David *****
Got my then fiancee a US Tourist Visa. It wasn't difficult except for the paperwork. The main thing is you need to show is that you have a reason to return to Thailand. Property ownership, good job. They just don't want you to come and then stay...
Оливер *********
It helps if she is your primary lover! And of course if she owns property and land. Having a regular job to go to is a big plus!
Paul *******
Having a job is the most important criteria. Having land or property alone usually isn't enough, nor does everyone own property in Thailand (even though it seems to me that Thais are more likely to be property owners than many westerners are).
Nick *********
Who is the primary lover inner ?
Оливер *********
@Nick ********
he probably got more than one lover!
Nick *********
@Оливер ********
hopefully they are not all inner ha ha ha
Frank **********
I tried to get my girlfriend a tourist visa at the time. Gave her a letter guarantee that I would pay for her stay and make sure she would go back home. She didn't have a job but owns a house and another piece of land. Has two kids in school. She went in for the interview, never looked at any of her supporting documents. Asked her a few questions and gave her a slip of paper that basically said denied. No reason given. I guess I should have slipped her into the US through Mexico l. Biden would have put her into a hotel and given her a credit card and a green card, lol.
Jeffrey *******
@Frank *********
Thai passport holders have similar visa entry requirements in Mexico - so walking across the souther border would require getting a visa to enter Mexico. Itexempt there or in the USA for a Thai passport holder.
Paul *******
@Frank *********
I do hope the two children you're referring to are your biological children. I see a lot of farang are caring for their wife or girlfriends children born to a former husband or boyfriend. That would send my alarm bells ringing too, as it's a red flag for consular officials to suspect the Thai applicant wants to immigrate to America with her children using the American partner simply to facilitate entry.

You can't love someone else's children like you can your own biological ones.

If I were a consular officer I'd be suspicious of such unusual arrangements too.
Frank **********
No they are not my kids. They are actually both over the age of 17. The thing is even though she doesn't have a job , she still had ties to Thailand. A house and several rai that grows rice.
John ******
@Frank *********
you said: make sure that she would go home. That is the key concern. you did not succeed to make that convincing sure
Brook ********
@Frank *********
A guarantor actually hurts your chances. It’s ties to Thailand, not the U.S. that makes the difference.
Frank **********
@Brook *******
I know but she still needed something that would show where she was staying and such.
Jack ****************
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Frank **********
My wife was able to get a visa when she was my girlfriend, and unemployed (early 2019). The issue isn’t that you need this amount of land or that amount of money. The issue is that she needs to convince the person reviewing her application that she has sufficient ties to Thailand and will return. In my wife’s application, she demonstrated that I lived here long term and that we lived together as part of her case. My situation added to her situation, and she got approved.

There is no specific formula… just make the best case you can that she has ties to Thailand and is not at risk of staying if she visits.
Jackie ***********
@Frank *********
got my wife a visa also, same story. I live with her full time in Thailand, and I was able to document this.
John ******
@Frank *********
completely agree. Most important that she reason to go back. Authorities are afraid that she will stay in us or europe
Kool *******
With Thai income tax, normally those making less than bt100,000 do not owe any tax, but in some years the government increases that cut off amount to bt150,000.
Av **********
They need to see min. 3 years of taxes, 6 months of bank statements, proof of where that money came from, can't be gifted, work, property and reasons for coming back, itinerary, proof of staying, plus the money to cover up to 90 days in the usa. (they are more likely to accept things like prebooked vacations to disney world, where every moment of the visit is tracked.) But I have known thai celebs, thai wives, thai his-sos who have all been denied. It is highly unlikely that your thai female friend will ever get a visa. Good luck and have a very strong case, but its very doubtful. (Also showing visas issued by other countries help. So normally what ppl do is they visit several other countries, follow their rules...and then it shows to the Us Embassy that you are responsible and you will come home. It isn't good to start out with the US Embassy since if you are denied sometimes you are barred from ever applying again. So take several trips to europe for example, they basically need the same stuff above as well) The only females from Thaliand I know who have gotten a tourist visa were are scientist who was famous, a famous thai singer / actress, thai actor who owns one of the newspapers in thailand, film makers and thai government employees who have worked for the government for long time like government public school teachers and last but not least thai military.)
Paul *******
@Av *********
what makes you think it's easier for a Thai to get a visa for Europe than for the USA? The application criteria is much the same. Most Thais who hold a decent job, land, property etc. stand a very good chance of securing a US tourist visa.
Av **********
@Wylie ******
my friend just did this 3 weeks ago...3 years is a long time in government Years. I just had to report my son's birth abroad...3 years ago u had to show proof of 1 year residence now u have to show 5....trumpy added a lot of new rules for embassy when he was in office making it more difficult unfortunately:( yes I heard Chang Mai is more easy too
Wylie *******
@Mark ********
yeah, we know of people that have been married that long and have lived in Thailand for well over a decade and the wife was still denied. I know it's extremely difficult. My wife was denied the first time, before we were married and I still lived in the US. The second time around she also applied in Chiang Mai, which I've heard isn't quite as bad as Bangkok.
Jackie ***********
@Wylie ******
what he said 👆. Got my wife a B2 last April. She has no job and no property and only one trip outside of Thailand stamped. I put together a packet of documents to show that she relies on me for financial support and I live in Thailand with her full time. I own no property in the USA. They gave it to her first try
Mark *********
@Wylie ******
you were very lucky. Took us over six months to get my wife over and only happened that soon due to the fact I had to have emergency back reconstruction so she qualified for emergency visa. Had two us senators (one personally one staff) call the US embassy in bkk on her behalf. For us it was a long, hard very expensive undertaking. Have a friend who has been married over ten years to a Thai woman who has never been able to get a visa to take her to visit
Wylie *******
@Av *********
my thai wife got one a couple years ago and didn't need 3 years of taxes, proof of where the little money she had in her bank came from, or a bunch of visits to other countries stamped in her passport. Neither one of us is famous or rich.

I'm not saying it's easy or the things you list don't help, but it is possible without all that. Like another comment says she was able to show that I live here and have no intention of moving back to the states anytime soon. I think that can negate the need for all the other stuff.
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