@Cris *****

they will tell her no (or yes) at the interview. The interview is 4 questions. Make sure you fill out the application together so that her answers are exactly the same as the application. The only possible legitimate reason I can come up with for our rejection was "we are going on holiday and so she can meet my mother" and when asked she said "going on holiday with my husband". I suspect it might be helpful to give them exact plans too- our plan was to stay about a month and maybe they want to hear "32 days" but I am speculating.

@Cris *****

you are getting conflicting information because half the people can't read and half like to talk without knowing.

It takes 1-3 months to apply because the interviews are backed up. Depending on whatever you might get one 3 weeks out or everything might be booked 2+ months. I'm theory it's easier now that there are two locations (Bangkok and Chiang Mai). I do not believe an agent will improve your chances and significant amount. They might keep you from making a mistake on the paperwork, it's not that hard. The reality is that nobody really knows what happens in the black box where they decide- personally I think there is a lottery element they only give out so many a day and if they already have them out before your interview slot - tough.

It is absolutely bonkers that something this expensive (150 bucks to apply, airfare, hotel, etc) doesn't have a clear set of requirements.

I've heard people say one or the other and one must be first. Our office told us we could mix and match. That is not the same as it being true. Good luck

@Michael ******

I used to be pretty smart. I'm not entirely sure what happened, but I am definitely diminished. My best guess is mini strokes at some point about 5 years ago. Have you always been a piece of shit or is that something new in your life?

@Terary *********

I had an Ed visa 2 years ago and I routinely get fucked with about it. I think some provinces have different attitudes.

@Us ****

upgrade my wife? That is the sort of classy comment I would expect in the Pattaya group.

@Greg **********

I know the information will still be in the system. But they seem to enjoy flipping through the book and freaking out about this, but don't seem to do much surfing through the data on the computer and this isn't an official rule-rule like Multi entry or single or extensions are X days. It's not a "this gets auto filled by the system" thing - it's within the culture of the department they've been told to shit on people who did this, it's like racism in the USA in the 70s. It still might not help- but if I potentially need to leave the country for my renewals it might be worth trying. Might also need to investigate the agent route... I just hate the idea that "other people skirted the system so they bully me so I now skirt the system" I want to be part of things being better not feed into them being broken.

Greg do you know if it is true that you cannot get the non O through the website? Svannakhet is easier than accessing the embassy in my country.

@Greg **********

so I am on a tourist visa. Money has been in the bank for 6+ months. Maisai said that I could not convert tourist visa. Chiang Rai called and spoke to the lady who told us that and she said it was because I had an Ed visa 2 years ago. I am at an absolute fucking loss as to what to do other than roll the dice at Svannakhet doesn't mess with me- but as I've said I am so JADED about it I am considering just getting a new passport and then trying again.

Trying to find where the online girlfriend works?

@Brandon ***********

if they can make up the rule that my visa from 2 years ago disqualifies me to convert this visa now they can certainly make up a rule that it disqualifies me from getting an extension as well. Earlier in the day the people at Maisai wouldn't give me a 30 day extension without my least and photocopies of my wife's ID. When we were getting married we had the office in THREE provinces insist they could not do the marriage and we had to do it in a different province and wound up back at the first place where they, then, did it. I definitely want someone there to look me in the eye and state plainly that getting the extension won't be a problem- but I don't know why given that they have lied about other things.