@Terary *********

I had an Ed visa 2 years ago and I routinely get fucked with about it. I think some provinces have different attitudes.

@Us ****

upgrade my wife? That is the sort of classy comment I would expect in the Pattaya group.

@Greg **********

I know the information will still be in the system. But they seem to enjoy flipping through the book and freaking out about this, but don't seem to do much surfing through the data on the computer and this isn't an official rule-rule like Multi entry or single or extensions are X days. It's not a "this gets auto filled by the system" thing - it's within the culture of the department they've been told to shit on people who did this, it's like racism in the USA in the 70s. It still might not help- but if I potentially need to leave the country for my renewals it might be worth trying. Might also need to investigate the agent route... I just hate the idea that "other people skirted the system so they bully me so I now skirt the system" I want to be part of things being better not feed into them being broken.

Greg do you know if it is true that you cannot get the non O through the website? Svannakhet is easier than accessing the embassy in my country.

@Greg **********

so I am on a tourist visa. Money has been in the bank for 6+ months. Maisai said that I could not convert tourist visa. Chiang Rai called and spoke to the lady who told us that and she said it was because I had an Ed visa 2 years ago. I am at an absolute fucking loss as to what to do other than roll the dice at Svannakhet doesn't mess with me- but as I've said I am so JADED about it I am considering just getting a new passport and then trying again.

Trying to find where the online girlfriend works?

@Brandon ***********

if they can make up the rule that my visa from 2 years ago disqualifies me to convert this visa now they can certainly make up a rule that it disqualifies me from getting an extension as well. Earlier in the day the people at Maisai wouldn't give me a 30 day extension without my least and photocopies of my wife's ID. When we were getting married we had the office in THREE provinces insist they could not do the marriage and we had to do it in a different province and wound up back at the first place where they, then, did it. I definitely want someone there to look me in the eye and state plainly that getting the extension won't be a problem- but I don't know why given that they have lied about other things.

@Brandon ***********

here is a screenshot from a YEAR ago where i say "tourist 60 day" and nobody corrects me. I wasn't just told what to do and decided everyone can fuck off and I'll invent my own shit.

@Brandon ***********

even you are being sloppy with the vocabulary and contradicting yourself. It takes the zing out of your reprimand. You are also misrepresenting what has happened.

First you say "you cannot convert to a marriage extension you convert to a marriage visa"

THEN you say "you convert to a marriage visa not an extension"

THEN you say "I was told to get the marriage visa before I traveled"

And I will remind you that almost daily we see people say "actually there is no marriage visa only a marriage extension" in this very group. So cut me some slack. It was my earnest understanding that I was supposed to come on a tourist visa and convert here because you could not come as a 30 day exempt and the do it- but I was told a week ago that as long as I had the 14 days I could.

One of the stories the staff told me yesterday was that you CANNOT get ANY VISA through the website that you can convert to marriage status from. But they told me other things that contradicted and then blamed the whole thing on the Ed stamp.

Wife says it's time to go home, goodnight.

@Brandon ***********

I was 100% of the understanding I was to come on a tourist visa and then convert to marriage extension. I was told yesterday by two offices that this was not the case, but then they conflate the issue and say the problem is that I had the Ed visa previously.

@Steve ******

yeah I am a derp- because I had falsely assumed these were "advanced visas" that had to be done in country when I first saw the name dropped here (in the context of avoiding the financial requirements) I assumed it was an immigration office and everything else just built on that. Smh.