@John *********

I'm not sure I'm getting your meaning.

Typically you pay at the end, after all the documents have been processed, passports stamped, etc.

Whereas "accepting application" means "success", I understand you have to pay. I'm asking if I still have to pay if my application is denied (specifically for the extension).

A more practical question is — do I pay upfront, do I attach the money to the application, etc.?

If so, I can see them potentially keeping it. If not, I struggle to see them asking for payment *after* they just denied me.

@Rory ********

All my documents are ready. I kept them in order from the original application process, and updated as needed.

@Chris ********

why is this relevant to the DTV conversation?

Bro that last paragraph is a single (very long) sentence.

Also — why do you sound so irritated and pissed off?

Also also — you have no idea what everyone's circumstances are. "Encouraging" them to not do extensions could be more expensive, less logistical, or in my case both (a family of five — airfare, hotel, traveling with young kids) is *WAY* less practical. I'd much rather go for an extension, assuming they'll have me.

Question to everyone saying “people keep asking the same questions”—

What are you expecting? New never-before-seen questions and experiences?

It's honestly annoying af how unkind so many of the officers are.

I don't understand the volatility and unkind temperament. Even if you have a problem with someone's visa/passport/etc, why can't you just be professional?

I guess the bigger question is — why is this tied to one’s visa at all?

Can someone explain *why* ?

I get that it’s considered a tourist visa, but for someone who is consistently (more than two years) in the country, why *wouldn’t* they allow it?

Just to get some clarity— what, specifically was the strictness you describe in the: "strict enforcement of the „residency“-section"? Are you referring to the questions you were asked about work, address, etc. (and your cartography skills)?

@Nosheen *******

the name of this group is literally called “Destination Thailand Visa (DTV)”