Allow me a look across what we got here:

“Good morning to everyone, one question, I made my last extension in December 2024 after a 60 days exempt entry.

I'm back in Thailandia the 16 October 2025 and my 60 days exempt entry will finish the 14 December 2025

Will I get 30 days extension? Which will be the first and only in 2025?”

*** let’s break this down, the 30 days extension will carry you until January 13th

After that I'll will flight to Vietnam for two weeks, should I get another 60 days exempt on my way back to Thailand?

*** January 13 plus 14 days, this would mean a re-entry date on January 27. You get stamped in for another 60 days, until March 25.

So far, absolutely possible!

“And if my flight back home will be the 13 April 2026, do you guys think I can have another 30 extension? “

*** That’s where a few hurdles might come into play that might be considered:

*** FIRST HURDLE: the airline you leave Vietnam on January 27 on the way back to Thailand will most obviously require an onward travel proof – a REAL flight ticket! -within the first 60 days you will get stamped in!

And even Immigration, at this point, CAN request the proof of onward travel out of Thailand (plus 20,000 THB cash and proof of accommodation)

*** SECOND HURDLE: it is absolutely not foreseeable if you will be granted another 30 days extension

BECAUSE within a rolling one-year period, you can have only two extensions on visa exempt entries – based on many reports we received - first for 30 days and the second one for only 7 days (or maybe not even those 7 days extension at all, which was reported, too!)

***you are playing with your odds. No “real” tourist is staying in holiday from October 16 thru April 13. Which amounts to 177 consecutive days away from the home country . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . WHY didn't you buy a multi entry 6-months Tourist Visa for your intended holiday?rts we received -

@Dave *********

a good question. He could have obtained his 1-year extension on his first entry on a 90-days Non-Imm-O visa. Absolutely no need to travel to Laos, other than he missed the deadline that he needs to have the 400,000 THB seasoned for 2 months in order to apply for the 1-year extension. Probably he didn't have those ducks in a row, hence the visa-run to Vientiane

We are now talking about the most common and persisting misunderstandings regarding the applications for the “retirement visa” and the subsequent “one-year extension of the stay permit based on retirement”

The best way to reach your goals is to show up in Thailand on a “90-days single entry Non-Imm-O Retirement/over 50 years visa” you have applied for in your home country in the E-Visa online system of the Thai embassy or consulate.

On this visaclass, you will get stamped in on a 90-days stay permit upon entering Thailand.

After having entered Thailand, you need to get registered in your accommodation per TM30 within 24 hours of arrival in the premises. If you have booked a hotel stay, the hotel will automatically register you per TM30 in the System. If you rent or live in a friend’s accommodation, the landlord or the friend has to register you.

Right after you got properly registered, you can get a “certificate of residency” from Immigration and with this and your passport, you can open a Thai bank account.

Within this 90-days stay permit period, you have plenty of time to arrange for the application to the “1-year extended stay permit based on retirement” (which people wrongly refer to as a “retirement visa”) Actually, this thing is not a visa. It is an extended stay permit

In order to apply for the “90-days single entry Non-Imm-O retirement visa” through the online E-visa system at the Royal Thai Embassy of your home country (or also in any other country using the e-visa system) you can use the proof of income of a monthly minimum of equivalent of 65,000 THB, by using your original pension statements or other income documentation.

Or you use a deposit of a minimum of 800,000 THB or the equivalent in your home country currency, or on your home bank account, or on a Thai bank, or just anywhere in the World – as long as the account is in your sole name

However, for the application inside Thailand for the “1-year extension of the stay permit” out of the 90-days Non-Imm-O retirement visa, if you are a citizen of a country, whose embassy in Thailand does not issue the “income affidavit” any more

(which are the embassies of the USA, UK and Australia, Norway, Canada and Belgium - AFAIK)

you would need proof by a “12 months bank statement”, showing that for the past 12 months, you have been transferring from abroad to your Thai bank account a minimum of 65,000 THB, consecutively month for month

If your embassy still issues a legalized affidavit of income, you can use this method for the financial proof, as long as you can show a monthly income or pension of a minimum of 65,000 THB

For above mentioned citizens, in the first year there is no other way around than depositing a minimum of 800,000 THB in your Thai bank account and use this deposit for the financial proof. For the application to the “one year extension of stay permit based on being over 50/retired” you need to show a minimum of 800,000 THB in your account and the funds must have been sat there for a minimum of 2 months, and you got the “bank letter of guarantee” that confirms this.

The alternative would be, if you don’t have that kind of money or are not willing to deposit 800,000 THB in your Thai Bank account, paying an agent a hefty sum (mostly in the range of 32-40,000 THB) to “arrange” the requirements

The downside is, you will get stuck with the agent for a while. You will need an agent to fix your 800k issue. You will be trapped in the agent’s hamster wheel.

To qualify you will need the 800k fronted by the agent the first year and simultaneously deposit 65k per month for 12 months without fail, to qualify the 2nd year for income method. Yet this is not enough to enable you to escape the hamster wheel.

If you use an agent, you will not qualify for the 2nd year as you did not have the money in the first year . . . . So you will need the agent grease the palms again and again.

NOTE: It is income method OR deposit method.

And there is a third method, called the “combination method”:

A combination, a mix of income and deposit.

Some immigrations don’t allow the combination method in the first year. And some Immigration want the deposit part to exceed 400,000 THB. The combination method means that the sum of the deposit AND the monthly income exceeds 800,000 THB in one year.

But let’s continue with the “normal method” (visa issued in your home country, followed by the application to the Extension inside Thailand):

On the day of application to the 1-year extension, the 800,000 THB must have “seasoned” in your account for two months, and this has to be proven with the “bank letter of guarantee” (rab roong thanakan).

Immigration will only service you if you are properly registered in your accommodation by the TM30.

Every landlord or hotel needs to register you within 24 hours of your arrival in the premises. While hotels do this automatically online, many landlords are not aware of this or haven’t registered their house or rooms in the system. It is your responsibility to ensure that you get properly TM30 registered.

After been issued the “1-year Extension of Stay”, the 800,000 THB need to remain in the account for 3 more months. After these 3 months, the deposit shall never go under 400,000 THB. And before your application for the next “1-year Extension of Stay”, a minimum of 800,000 THB must have seasoned in the account for two months, again

When you get issued the “1-year extension of stay”, you should always buy a re-entry permit for it.

A re-entry permit will keep your 1-year stay permit alive in case you exit Thailand before the expiry of the 1-year stay permit.

A single re-entry permit is 1000 THB on Immigration. A multi re-entry is 3800 THB.

With a multi re-entry permit, you can exit and re-enter as many times as you wish during the whole 1-year stay permit period.

If you prefer to enter Thailand on a tourist visa or visa-exempt, and plan to apply for the “change of visa type” to the 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa on Immigration, because somebody told you that this is possible (which it actually still is), you should kindly note that when banking regulations were tightened by February 2025, the fundamental change that occurred was that you cannot get a bank account opened anymore on a tourist visa.

This means that you would need an agent to circumvent the legal route. I would call that a bad start into your privileged longstay in Thailand.

Regarding all these hassles, it’s better to show up in Thailand on a 90-days Non-Imm-O Visa issued in your home country, because on this visa you are allowed to open a bank account.

It helps in opening a bank account in the first week after arrival, with or without the help of an agent, and then 60 days after your 800,000 THB deposit has been transferred into the account, the money will have seasoned for 2 months and you can directly apply for the 1-year Extension of Stay

From up to 30 days (in some places 45 days) before the initial 90-days stay permit expires, you can apply to the “1-year extension of stay based on retirement”

Good Luck and a great time in Thailand

The 90-day single entry Non-Imm-O "family" visa and how to obtain a one-year extension of your stay permit based on being married to a Thai wife.

There is the "90-day single entry Non-Imm-O Family visa" option, which you can apply by the e-visa online system before you fly to Thailand.

You must provide a financial proof for both the 90-day visa and later at immigration for the application for a "one-year extension of the temporary stay permit based on being married to a Thai wife."

For the application to the initial visa, you either

have at least 400,000 THB (approximately $ 12,000) in a bank account in your sole name. There is no seasoning of the deposit required at this point.

(It is irrelevant for the visa application where the account is located – as long as there is a proof that the account is in your sole name)

However, when applying for the "1-year extension" from out of the 90-days stay permit you got stamped in upon entering Thailand, the 400,000 THB must have been in your Thai bank account for 2 months, and this “seasoning” must be proven with a "bank letter of guarantee" (in Thai: rab roong thanakan).

Or you use the income affidavit of your embassy in Thailand (only if applicable - as many embassies do not issue it any more)

You need to provide evidence of an income/pension of at least 40,000 THB (approximately $ 1200).

For the application to the initial visa, you can use your original marriage documents.

However, for the application to the “1-year extension”, Immigration requires a Thai marriage registry printout - the Kor Ror 22 or 2 (whichever applies) This printout must be current, printed freshly by an Amphur office. This is possible only if your marriage has already been officially acknowledged in Thailand. If you married outside of Thailand, it will be the Kor Ror 22.

The requirements may vary slightly between every one of the 85 immigration offices in Thailand, so it is recommended to visit them right after you entered and ask for the list of requirements for the "extension of the temporary stay permit based on being married to a Thai wife."

What almost all immigration offices have in common is that they will only serve you, if you have been properly registered at your place of residence via a TM30 registration.

Immigration normally will issue the "1-year extension of the stay permit" for 4 weeks "under consideration." They will ask for photos of the two of you together in front of your house, with the house number visible, a photo of you in the living room, and in the bedroom, etc.

They normally ask for a hand-drawn map of the route from your house to the Immigration office, or the Google Maps coordinates.

Immigration will pay a visit at your home during these four weeks (with prior notice) and will question your neighbours about whether your marriage is "real."

After this visit, you visit Immigration and collect the stamp with your one-year extension of the temporary stay permit. (EOS)

NOTE: keep the 400,000 THB deposit in your bank account at least until you have gathered up the 1-year Marriage Extension stamp. You are free to spend the deposit, however the 400,000 THB need to be back in your account 2 months prior (some Immigrations ask for 3 months) to your next application for the 1-year extended stay permit.

NOTE: Always purchase a re-entry permit for your EOS.

A single re-entry costs 1000 THB, a multiple re-entry will be 3,800 THB.

The re-entry permit keeps your stay permit valid in case you leave the country. If you leave without a re-entry permit, your EOS will become invalid.

PLEASE use the correct terminology:

Technically spoken, there is no "visa extension", and the 1-year extension is not a “marriage visa”. Immigration does not extend any visa. That's technically not possible.

The use of this wording is improper English. You use the “90-days marriage visa” for entering Thailand, the visa becomes invalid. You will get stamped in for a 90-days stay permit. You then apply for a one-year extension of this stay permit. A stay permit is not a visa.

@Raymond ********

what you were able to do, is no longer possible since February 2025. For applying to the Non-Imm-O visa inside Thailand you need a Thai bank account, and for getting a bank account opened, you need to be on a Non-Imm Visa class. You cannot get a bank account opened any more on a touristic entry

@Viktoria ********

if you live in Thailand on visa-exempt stamps, you need to be prepared to be refused entry into Thailand very soon on your next trips

it should be okay

David de Wit . . . the visa will be send via E-mail. It is a pdf document. You need to print it. You should check your E-mail folder, and the Spam E-mail folder, too

@Pertti ************

the cheapest agent to get a Thai bank account opened (it requires you are on a valid longterm visa, like the Non-Imm-O visa) is 5000 Thai Baht. For 1000 Thai Baht, an agent won't even get up from his office chair

@Burkhard *******

"And it has to be a international transfer, i made it by using wise, in euro and let wise change it, its more expensive but a sure transfer for immigration." . . . . . no way, not needed at all. And please be aware: WISE transfers now are showing as being made inside Thailand. . . . WISE discontinued making sure a transfer from a foreign account gets coded as coming from abroad in the recipient's Thai bankbook. It wil show as an inner-Thailand transfer (from the Kasikorn bank WISE is using for the last step) . .check your bankbook and you will see that the transfer came from within Thailand. . . .but don't worry, as there is no requirement to prove it came from abroad when you do the extension based on retirement out of a former Non-O visa which you obtained abroad