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What are the recent challenges and requirements for Non Imm. O visa extensions at Pattaya Immigration?

Nov 28, 2025
2 days ago
Tom *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
Heads up to anyone using Pattaya Immigration. I had my annual interview for the Non Imm. O visa Ext. of Stay thru marriage yesterday. Nightmare. Worst in 28 years. Even my usually unflappable Thai wife was upset at the process. Home photos rejected. Had to go home take more, a 1-hour return drive. Photocopies unacceptable. In and out all morning to get more done then having to queue up again in long queues of at least 40 or 50 people in front of us twice.

The female immigration officer even had a problem with the map to our house which we printed off from Google Maps. Not good enough. It had to be hand drawn with a copy so that means hand drawn twice. Don’t know if the IO was just having a bad day or not but doubt it as a friend said he had something similar happen to him last week in Bangkok immigration. Oh and marriage cert. good for the last 23 years, not anymore. Needs updating every year now so had to go to the Amphur district office do that.

The questions they’re asking nowadays are very invasive as well. Why did you move? (asked twice) How did you pay for your house? Got receipts? Where does your income come from? Got any pension? Proof? Receipts? Be warned. It’s a new dawn in immigration these days and the bank freezes were just the start. I’d be interested to know if anybody’s had similar experiences having done a recent 1-year Extension of Stay on long-term Thai visa. Thanks.🙏
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TLDR : Answer Summary
A recent experience with Pattaya Immigration for a Non Imm. O visa extension revealed a number of challenges, including the rejection of home photos and photocopies, invasive questioning about income and residence, and a requirement for an updated marriage certificate each year. The process has become more stringent, causing stress for applicants and even triggering frustration among those previously familiar with the system. Comments from community members suggest these issues are widespread, with many facing similar difficulties at immigration offices across Thailand.
Deepak *******
I feel all are fair questions. Why did you move to a country alien to your culture? where did you get money from to build your house. I don't see anything wrong with asking these questions.
Wayne *******
@Deepak ******
Another Thai apologist
Pond ************
@Deepak ******
absolutely BS. Married for 23yrs and every year having to be questioned the same way. Having to proof you are married every year???? How do you defend that
Joe ********
@Deepak ******
no no no! The Thai government is there to serve farang. Things in this foreign land are supposed to be focused on the feelings of old bitter expats. /s
Law ********
@Deepak ******
you sell out!!! If you don't have anything positive to say just keep your mouth shut! 🤬
Joe ********
@Law *******
Is this a real comment? Do people really have this level of self-awareness in the world?
Dennis *********
@Deepak ******
these are BS questions after someone has been here 20+ years!!
Tom *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Deepak ******
on paper I agree with you, but this is the first time in 28 years I’ve been asked these questions and they are not a requirement in Thai law when you apply for an Extension of Stay so they have just been added recently.
Deepak *******
@Tom ******
I don't think there is a requirement for what the IO can ask. They can ask anything to vet your application. About not asking for the past 28 years, it does not mean anything. A thief is not caught every time he robs. Accidents do not happen every time you go out.
Tom *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Deepak ******
not disagreeing with you about what the immigration officer can ask for. I’m saying in my experience for more than two decades in Bangkok they did not ask for an update to the marriage certificate or the document that accompanies it. I hope that’s clear now. :-)
Greg ***********
@Tom ******
the Kor Ror 22 or 2 up-to-date printout from the Amphur was always a requirement. If they were accepting your rose bordered Kor Ror 3 for 28 years, you have been incredibly lucky
Tom *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Greg **********
maybe for you, but we always supplied both in Bangkok — the certificate and the paper document (don’t know the name) — but the latter was the same every year. Never updated till yesterday. That said, the information contained (which is a declaration of sorts) was still the same after the update yesterday. No change.
John *********
Clean up process underway, they are getting rid of undesirables involved in criminal activities and working illegally, it’s a good thing going forward for law abiding residents and tourists.

Where do you live, if you have to draw a plan 🤔
Greg ***********
@John ********
I had to draw up a plan, too. And two years later they asked me to pinpoint our house on google maps on the mobile phone of one of the Immigration officers. And the next year it was a hand drawn plan, again . . . . . . . . the sun shines and today I am in a light mood 😂 and who knows how my mood will be tomorrow
Mike *********
@John ********
I deal with Sakaeo IO and have always had to hand draw the map from IO to my home.
Kenneth *******
@John ********
yes in away some of them small criminals the big ones are still there and will be long time
Mark ***********
That's absolutely crazy
Pertti *************
Thailand is a big country. Better to move away from the red light districts to a healthier environment 🙏
Mick *****
@Pertti ************
an ignorant and ill informed comment. Plenty of normal people in no way involved in that stuff live in the district.
Pertti *************
@Mick ****
You can explain yourself whatever you want and still no one is interested your hobbies👍
Robert **********
@Mick ****
Plenty is an overstatement🤣 we all know why most people come to this place and i aint the beaches or the food
Greg ***********
@Mick ****
how could a healthy person use an overcrowded and the most corrupt Immigration office of the whole of Thailand for annual extensions, and expect to be treated friendly? . . . my annual extension at the Immigration Sisaket is a 20 minutes walk-in-the-park, never have to wait longer than 3 minutes for my turn, they take me in ahead of any Laotians or Cambodians already waiting. 20 minutes for the 1-year EOS, a 90 days report and the purchase of a single re-entry permit. . . .. . . we used to live on Jomtien Beach for 3 years, but I NEVER registered myself TM30 (I am not stupid!) over there after having seen the turmoil and the queues at the Jomtien Immigration.😄 . . . . . . . I always happily used our "backwater" Immigration, my extensions are due on every January 4th, thus I always spent the time arounf X-mas and New Year with the family anyways . . . . . . entering Immigration with a Wai, being treated friendly and courteous, and leaving Immigration with a Wai "kop khun maak krap!"
Mick *****
@Greg **********
i have no issues at Jomtiem. They can be a bit slow but otherwise friendly and efficient. It probably helps if your on the right visa and not gaming the system.
Steven *********
@Pertti ************
better off ignoring a trolling and judgmental comment like yours.
Pertti *************
@Steven ********
Did it hit a sensitive spot?
Steven *********
@Pertti ************
not really as these districts and this type of visa has zero affect on me, but it does get a bit boring seeing grown men post pathetic comments like a little troll. You not agree?
Greg ***********
@Steven ********
and Mick Lor . . . my annual extension at the Immigration Sisaket is a 20 minutes walk-in-the-park, never have to wait longer than 3 minutes for my turn, they take me in ahead of any Laotians or Cambodians already waiting. 20 minutes for the 1-year EOS, a 90 days report and the purchase of a single re-entry permit. . . .. . . we used to live on Jomtien Beach for 3 years, but I NEVER registered myself TM30 over there after having seen the turmoil and the queues at the Jomtien Immigration.😄 . . . . . . . I always happily used our "backwater" Immigration, my extensions are due on every January 4th, thus I always spent the time arounf X-mas and New Year with the family anyways . . . . . . entering Immigration with a Wai, being treated friendly and courteous, and leaving Immigration with a Wai "kop khun maak krap!"
Steven *********
@Greg **********
a good post apart from the wake up comment? What is the point in this statement? The original post has to move to a different location because life would be easier.? Or because you moved he should have to also? The guy has done this for 28 years! 28... so he knows his shit and posted to help.. not get trolled about living next to red light district and healthier environment!! That's the problem with Facebook, too many sad people can't wait to take their shitty day or life out online to someone who made a perfectly good post.
Greg ***********
@Steven ********
I am not a sad keyborad warrior, on the contrary I have my own visa advice group (in another language than English) and I help people every day and receive many thankssaying every other day. . . . What I noted here is that the guy has been very lucky for 28 years. . . . . Because showing an up-to-date freshly printed Kor Ror 22 or 2 marriage registry printout from the Amphur is a definite requirement since decades . . . a rose bordered marriage document from 28 years ago has zero stance - they could have been divorced a long time ago and he could theoretically still use it to get a 1-year extension for half the required financial proof than the retirement extension. It should be understood by everybody why Immigration is asking for an actual and updated document
Steven *********
@Greg **********
i wasn't speaking about you 🙏, apologies if read this way.. I mean in general and the stupid comment above.
Greg ***********
@Steven ********
I removed the wake up call. Each one on his own
Pertti *************
@Greg **********
living here rural Si Sa Ket too👍
Tom *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Pertti ************
don’t live in Pattaya, just a neighouring district which is controlled by Pattaya immigration.
Paul ********
Doesn't exactly make us feel welcome
Joe ********
@Paul *******
That isn't their priority. Their priority seems to be serving the interests of Thai people first. It may be inconvenient, but I respect it.
Tom *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Paul *******
yes and for me, it felt like a police interrogation, and my Thai wife said exactly the same. She felt she was being harassed. Of course, we were being interviewed by a police captain, a female immigration officer so maybe that is her style of interview.
Bob **********
@Tom ******
I have found by talking to a lot of people Jomtien is being extra tough almost like they want you to use an Agent so they can get some cash for there BMW payment
Laurie ********
You just met someone with a grudge against foreigners. It happens? But just do the right things & move forward. ( PS: Go to Bangkok or Hua Hin - farang-friendly )
Wayne *******
@Laurie *******
Not sure if you remember who was in charge of 'health' in Thailand during covid. Every spike or rise in covid cases was blamed on foreigners. Even though foreigners were for the most part, abiding by the laws and Thais up and down the country were still having pick up truck parties and passing covid around like a dutchie!

His name is Autin, now the PM

It was obvious to me what was coming for Johnny foreigner in Thailand once he was elected

I wont be going near the place for the foreseeable with a fool like that running the show
Laurie ********
@Wayne ******
No Wayne I was in New Zealand - came home for a holiday and got caught with everything 'locked-down'. So maybe things have changed a lot. ( although things did seem to change constantly during the 6-years I lived there ).
Kimberly ********
We had several friends in Chiang Mai renewing their Non-O and had the same experience. As well as others renewing different kinds of visas and had similar experiences :/ definitely seems to be a trend happening.
Colin **********
Why did they reject the photocopies? Ive heard of pictures being rejected because someone was in shorts, I also so Pattaya was going to be an area that they will be more critcal, looks real
Tom *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Colin *********
not really sure to be honest because my wife was dealing with it and they rarely ever speak to me during the interview. Yes, it looks like Pattaya is being gentrified and that they plan to get rid of all the so-called Cheap Charlie’s to make way for all the millionaires they believe will replace them. 555
Shanna **************
wait, what? what do you mean the marriage certificate is only good for 23 years? that’s absurd!
Greg *********
@Shanna *************
I have read somewhere that this is the form if your marriage was outside the kingdom, does anyone know for sure?
Greg *********
Great already have the kor ror 2 & 3, will will check local IO if anything needs to be updated
Greg ***********
@Greg ********
you might need an updated freshly printed Kor Ror 2 if you wish to apply for the 60-days "visit family" extension or the "1-year extension". . . . the documents should not be older than three months. However this might vary on different Immigrations - some accept a last year printout, others might want it to be newly dated, whatsoever. It is a good idea to visit "your" Immigration and ask them
Greg ***********
@Greg ********
In simple terms:

If you married outside of Thailand, you must first have your marriage legalized through your embassy and then the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MfA) before you can obtain a Kor Ror 22 marriage certificate from the civil registry office (Amphur).

If you married within Thailand, you do not need a Kor Ror 22 to prove your marriage. However, you can obtain a Kor Ror 2 from the civil registry office.

If you married outside of Thailand, you cannot obtain a Kor Ror 2 certificate. A Kor Ror 22 certificate is required to prove your marriage.

Now, let's assume the marriage took place within Thailand.

In this case, your Thai spouse simply needs to go to the civil registry office (Amphur) with their national identity card to obtain a Kor Ror 2 certificate.

This is the standard marriage certificate for marriages performed within Thailand.

... The cost is 20 baht. For use within Thailand, legalization by an embassy or the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is not required.

The original marriage certificate with the rose border, which you received when you married within Thailand, is called a Kor Ror 3.

Unfortunately, it is not accepted by immigration for renewal applications, as one could be divorced and present an old marriage certificate to gain an unfair advantage.
Greg *********
Too easy thank you
Greg ***********
@Greg ********
if you were married outside of Thailand, you will need your marriage acknowledged and registered inside Thailand, before you can apply for a 1-year Extension of Stay based on being married to a Thai wife, or for an application to the 60-days Extension based on "family visit". . . . . this marriage registry document is the Kor Ror 22. If you were married inside Thailand, it would be the Kor Ror 2. The rose bordered marriage certificate is the Kor Ror 3.
Greg ***********
@Shanna *************
I wondered, too. A rose bordered marriage certificate actually was never accepted as proof of a STILL EXISTING (!) marriage, because you theoretically could have been divorced a long time ago and still use an old rose bordered marriage paper to achieve the "cheaper" one-year extension of stay. . . . . It always took the freshly printed marriage registry printout from the Amphur to prove the marriage was still in effect and active. Only the "Kor Ror 22 or 2" printouts were accepted as a solid proof. How the OP could escape this requirement for 23 years, it out of my range of understanding
Chris ****
@Greg **********
perhaps if he had followed the protocol for a certified marriage certificate the rest would not have been necessary. Seems op didn't read the room.
Tom *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Greg **********
not sure how you’ve come to this conclusion when you have to have a face to face interview with the same woman’s name printed on that rose colored certificate 23 years earlier. You sound like you you’ve been in Thailand, five minutes. Yes it always took the freshly printed marriage registry printout from the Amphur to prove the marriage was still in effect and active the only difference being it did not need to be updated. It was taken on trust. Are you up to speed now? Or would you like me to write bigger letters for you? Smh.
Greg ***********
@Tom ******
only the Kor Ror 22 proves that you haven't been in a divorce, yet. Your old marriage registry you can literally wipe you b... with, it doesn't prove your marriage is still existing. There are a multitude of fake marriages (common among some Indians, Bangladeshi and Pakistanis, just to name a few) who show up with ladies they are married to on the paper, but never have lived together with them. This is the only reason why Immigration wants an update, and checks if the marriage is real by a home visit. If you haven't ever had no idea why Immigration predominantly asks not for the rose bordered marriage certificate but instead for an up-to-date printout from the Amphur, NOW you know because Greg Alexander told you 😎
Jonnie *******
Out of curiosity can this printout be updated at any Amphur or must be the original amphur of registry ?

I’m also same situation as one or 2 others have mentioned, been here 17 years and never updated this document and never had any issue, although switched occasionally entry status during some of those years to retirement as less hassle.
Greg ***********
@Jonnie ******
any Amphur inside Thailand can print out your marriage registry document
Tom *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Greg **********
you talk like this is my first rodeo. I appreciate that you’re trying to belittle me in some way, as if somehow, this must be my fault, but I don’t know how many times or different ways I can tell you that we were never asked for this updated document in all of the time over many many years in Bangkok. Please do not reply. If you cannot understand this, then I have nothing really further to add.
Shanna **************
@Tom ******
Rude much?
Andie ***********
@Shanna *************
he means it's been good in it's current format for the last 23 years without any update, but this time it wasn't, he had to get it updated.
Bob **********
They required a lot more this year for my extension,copy of owners house book ,letter from company that owns condo landlords passport and I hear next year they want the owners tax ID they don’t want us here anymore
Barrie *********
@Bob *********
Cambodian is no Hassells
Bob **********
@Barrie ********
I have a retirement visa for Cambodia also thanks
Marco *******
This is the reason why i prefer to do a new visa every 3 months rather than an extension.
Frankie *****
@Marco ******
he’s the one who will soon get into trouble. Newbie 🤣
Marco *******
@Frankie ****
yeah big trouble do an extension if I’m required to from an IO, thanks for the tip, master 😂
Hans *************
@Marco ******
that's not possible lol.
Dom ************
@Marco ******
That's impossible since you have to leave the country every 3 months.
Frank **********
@Marco ******
with the strict enforcement of the rules I seriously doubt you will be able to continue that.
Marco *******
@Frank *********
doing what?Entering in a country with a proper visa?
Frank **********
Daniele ***********
@Marco ******
I'm missing what's the reason, what's described in the post can be done in 1 day at immigration office, how is it more convenient to apply for 4 visas + re entries?
Marco *******
@Daniele **********
the OP doesn’t seems to be enthusiastic about it.
Kate ***********
@Marco ******
you mean you go out of Thailand and apply for new visa every 3 months?
Marco *******
@Kate **********
i don’t live in Thailand but come very often. Every 3 months i apply for visa, at my first entry i buy the multiple entry at the airport when leaving and repeat the process every 3 months. It might be costly due to the re entry cost but hassles free so i don’t mind spend more
Greg ***********
@Marco ******
. . . . ??? "Every 3 months i apply for visa, at my first entry i buy the multiple entry at the airport when leaving and repeat the process every 3 months." . . . . . . . . . . . . it is complete nonsense to buy a multi re-entry permit for a 90-days stay permit, unless you exit and re-enter Thailand more than 3 times during this 90-days period. You don't want to tell us that this is what you are doing? Come on 😎
Marco *******
@Greg **********
“Unless you exit and re enter Thailand more than 3 times during this 90 days period”

You already have the answer!
Greg ***********
@Marco ******
I am just trying VERY hard to understand WTF you are doing, exiting Thailand every 14 days, return and stay for 14 days and exit again, rinse and repeat until the 90 days stay permit expires. You not only pay the visa fee of 70.- Euros every time when you apply for the 90-days visa, you also pay 110.- Euro for the multi re-entry permit every 90 days. . . . . plus three or more flights out of Thailand within 90 days. Are you a millionaire throwing pearls to pigs (Casting pearls before swines), then why don't you just put 400,000 THB in a Thai bank account and apply for the 1-year stay permit. Then buy a 3800 THB multi re-entry permit for it and you can exit and re-enter as many times as you wish during the 1-year stay permit
Marco *******
@Greg **********
i will try to explain since we are in a deep conversation 😂😂😂

Unfortunately i’m not millionaire and the total i will pay for 1 year is 4000 (re entry permit at the airport is more expensive than immigration office) x4 =16.000 + 4 visa applications 1900x4 =7,600 so 16.000+7600=23.600/year.

A simple extension of stay it’s 1.900.

So a potential saving of 21.700 thb.

However since my visit are short visit and mostly on weekends when immigration is closed the hassle to do an extension for me is not worth the 21k that i will save. If you put it in an economically way, yes you are right but for me since time is more important than money i prefer to spend more.

Of course if one day an IO will advise me to do an extension of stay i will go that way.
Greg ***********
@Marco ******
your wires are still crossed. A visa application is still 70.- Euro or 80 USD, and not 1900 THB. Only an extension would be 1900 THB. . Thus it is 4 x 80 USD = 320.- USD = 10.000 THB . . . . 16,000 plus 10,000 THB = 26,000 Baht. . . . if you did the 1-year extension with 400K in the bank, you save 26,000 minus 5700. This means you are throwing 20,300 THB away , EVERY YEAR
Marco *******
@Greg **********
the visa price change depending the country you will apply from. In my case it is around 2500 thb
Greg ***********
@Marco ******
and then it is PEACE OF MIND. You can exit and re-enter as many times as you wish, during a full year. No more need to buy re-entry permits at the airport, no more visa applications. Just ONCE a year 30 minutes on Immigration and 5700 THB for another 1- year stay permit, a multi re-entry permit included. The other advantage: You save over 20,000 THB every year by this method, compared to now
Greg ***********
@Marco ******
that's what I am saying. You don't apply for the visa for 1900. It costs 2500 instead. You are wasting 20,300 THB every year, plus the interest 400,000 THB would get you from a Thai bank (average 1.25% interest for a savings account)
Greg ***********
@Marco ******
you got your wires crossed. You dont buy a multi re-entry at the airport when you enter. You buy the multi re-entry permit at the airport before you exit. Buying a multi re-entry permit for a 90-days stay permit out of a Non-Imm-O visa I can only regard as being pure nonsense
Greg ***********
@Marco ******
why would you buy a 3800 THB multi re-entry permit for a 90-days stay permit? How many times do you exit and re-enter during a 90-days period? It makes sense to buy a 3800 Baht multi re-entry permit for a 1-year extension of stay, as it allows unlimited exits and re-entries during a full year, but for 90 days?
Marco *******
@Greg **********
many times, and since it is required to keep the visa valid there is no other options than pay.
John **********
@Marco ******
out of interest do they ever ask why you are in and with such frequency?
Marco *******
@John *********
i work in a nearby country after working 15 years in Thailand and i have family in Thailand. Initially i came back with visa exemption but after multiple times the IO suggest me to get a non O visa and is what i did since then to avoid problems.
Kate ***********
@Marco ******
thank you for the tip
Greg ***********
@Kate **********
it is complete nonsense to buy a multi entry permit for a 90-days stay permit, unless the person wants to exit and re-enter Thailand more than 3 times during this 90-days period
Doug *******
@Marco ******
You get a new visa every three months? I’m interested to understand more about this potential option.
Pertti *************
@Doug ******
usually people who don't have
*******
k to extension do these visa runs.. not an option us who live here.
Marco *******
@Doug ******
yes, same documents for every application (excluding bank statements that need to be updated every month) and everything done trough your laptop in 5 minutes
Greg ***********
@Marco ******
I doubt that you can live longterm in Thailand on repeated 90-days single entry Non-Imm-O Visa. . . . . There comes the day when your visa application will be refused by the processing embassy and/or Immigration due to "abuse"
Marco *******
@Greg **********
the embassy will issue the visa as long you fulfill all the requirements. (Words from the embassy).

Applying for a visa when you have all the requirements to obtain it doesn’t constitute any abuse.
Greg ***********
@Marco ******
okay, the embassy won't care much. However Immigration might come to the conclusion that you should rather get the 1-year extension of the stay permit, instead of using (and thus "abusing") a 90-days Non-Imm-O Visa for consecutive holidays
Marco *******
@Greg **********
once again, i have asked multiple times to airport IO and immigration office IO about this case and they always told me it is absolutely fine. Personally i will follow the immigration recommendation!
Greg ***********
@Marco ******
Good Luck 🙂
Greg ***********
@Marco ******
the embassy has absolutely NO say over what an Immigration officer at the border thinks or says, when he sees your stamp history on his Central computer screen. You can definitely be denied on a valid visa! Embassies use different rules than Immigration - they are under different ministries and don't communicate with each other
John **********
@Marco ******
indeed, but there may come a time when immigration may deny entry. And also there is the requirement to leave Thailand every 90 days and stay out of Thailand until you receive the visa
Marco *******
@John *********
stating that it is always at discretion of the IO visa or not visa. but why an entry shouldn’t be allowed when you are using the correct visa and all the requirements are in place?
John **********
@Marco ******
if the immigration officer decides you are not using the visa correctly they can deny entry. A. Visa doesn't guarantee entry
Marco *******
@John *********
witch it what i just said and what applies to every case of visa or exemption…
Greg ***********
@Marco ******
consecutive touristic visa do not guarantee entry. Like I said before: the embassy might issue whatever you apply and pay for, they take your money with a kiss. However what the border official will decide, it a different matter. You can be, and most probably will be denied if you use 90-days Non-O visa consecutively
Marco *******
@Greg **********
stating that in any case the entry under a visa or a visa exemption is under the authority of the IO. read better before commenting. We are talking about Non O visa not METV neither tourist entry.
Greg ***********
@Marco ******
you are talking about using consecutive 90-days Non-Imm-O Visa in a row. . . and there will come the end of it, some day a border official will pull you aside and start asking
Marco *******
@Greg **********
it was the IO itself who told me to apply for a visa instead of the visa exemption and same advice i had from my local immigration office. Never have been questioned since i use the proper way and choose the visa witch i am eligible for.
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