What are the requirements for a 180-day extension of a DTV visa in Thailand?

Dec 24, 2024
2 days ago
Greg ***********
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Here the story of someone, who visited the Immigration Hua Hin and wanted to know, what were the requirements for a 180-days extension of his DTV

You will love the story of his experience

Posted by “Tom Tom“

"I just came back from a visit to the Hua Hin Immigration to have my entry stamp (on a DTV visa) transferred from my old passport to my new passport. So far so good.

Then the lady checking the papers pointed out to me, that since I still have the DTV sticker from the Phnom Penh Thai Embassy, ​​I should always carry the old passport with me. That's perfectly clear so far, too.

Then I asked if I could extend the 180-days stay permit here at Immigration.

She said it's no problem, BUT, and this came a a total surprise, I would have to show proof of a Thai bank account with a deposit of 500,000 THB.

Another officer then approached us while I was trying to explain to the lady that I didn't have a Thai bank account with this kind of deposit, but that the credit was in my German account.

He advised I should just leave Thailand for a short time and come back after a few days. Then this banked money rule would no longer apply to me.

Can anyone confirm this? My extension for another 180 days would be at the beginning of March 2025”

My answer to Tom Tom was as follows:

“If you take a look at the Facebook group “Destination Thailand Visa DTV”, you will notice that there is disagreement and heated debate on this very point.

None of the current DTV holders have applied for an extension at immigration to date, because the earliest date would be shortly before the expiry of the first 180 days for the first wave of DTV, which was introduced on July 15, 2024.

No one can know how the various immigration offices will react to something for which no fixed rules have been issued at all, apart from the usual procedure for the 30-day "touristic extension", which should actually also be applied to the DTV, because the DTV is a tourist-visa class.

There is therefore a heated debate in this group as to whether or not immigration will pull out some fictitious guidelines in the case of a 180-day extension.

You have by now provided a typical example: No immigration officer currently knows with absolute certainty any rules on the extension, because no such rules exist.

So this specific officer pulls out whatever comes to her mind and asks you to provide proof of 500,000 THB again, and this is where it gets really ridiculous, must be in a Thai account?

That's why, before you allow yourself to get invited to ride the carousel, you should do a border run and activate the next 180 days stay permit.

No one at the border will ask you about your account balance, or about health insurance, or how often you go to the toilet

It goes without saying that you have to keep the old invalid passport with the visa sticker - because this is the only proof that you have been issued a DTV. Without presenting this, you will not get a new 180-day "admitted stay" stamp at the border”
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The discussion revolves around the requirement for a 180-day extension of the DTV visa at Hua Hin Immigration. Users are confused about needing to show a 500,000 THB deposit in a Thai bank account for the extension, with varying experiences reported. Some suggest doing a border run instead of going through the extension process, as immigration officials seem to provide inconsistent information. The conversation highlights general unease about the clarity and implementation of current extension rules.
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Maxine *********
Hi Is there any thailand visasl agents on here that are in pattaya.
Dany ********
Immigration Offices are telling us for months that we would need our application documents again and especialy a fresh financial proof of 500k. thats actually nothing new. but it doesnt have to be in a thai bank account.

the immigration offices handle the extension so i would always reach out to them and ask what they want to see. there wont be a nationwide published guideline.
Marcin *******
"because this is the only proof that you have been issued a DTV." - well no, it's in their system. The fact that they demand to show your visa is another story.

Also, don't pay bribes to open a bank account.
Greg ***********
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@Marcin ******
You could end up being terribly wrong, as the system the Thai embassies use, is not the same as the system Immigration is using. They are two different state ministries and do not communicate between each other. That's why you better carry a printed DTV document on you whenever you cross the border
Marcin *******
Greg Alexander fair enough. Thank you clarifying. Although I read stories of people not needing to show the visa. Maybe after first use it shows up in their system.
Luit *****************
@Marcin ******
If you don't want to pay an agent to open a bank account for you, you may invest a lot of your time to visit many branches of banks to find one that allows you to open an account.
Henrik *****
For those who has dealt with Thai laws and rules for some time, will know what is written can be far from the way the rules will be handled in real life.

So dont waste time speculating about what will happend after 180 days, until 190 - 200 days has arrived, and people will tell, what actually has happend to those who went as the first ones going to get the extension.

And then it may still change since different offices will do things differently, as it has happend with different Embassies has interpreted the rules to get the DTV ( or how corona rules was handled as another exampel ).

ONLY TIME WILL TELL.

Wait until precedence has been established, it may end far from any guesses

Until then, everybody is just guessing, so have that in mind, and dont make plans that it will be in a certain way.
Michael ********
It's not hard to open up a Thai Bank account if you have the right paperwork. The main thing is you need either a Yellow Book, or a letter from immigration stating what your address is for bank accounts. Without either of these two items, you are not going to be able to open up an account in accordance with Thai Law. Also, you need something similar to get a license. FYI, if you are staying in Thailand for more than 90 days and driving on an IDP, you are not driving legally. With this said, I would recommend taking the time to get a Thai Bank Account and Thai Driver's Licenses. Also the Thai Licenses are good for all of ASEAN. And paying for thing in thailand by using the banking apps is so much easier, versus caring round wads of paper in your pocket and getting change back. But when that said, there is no way in hell that I would have 500K baht in a Thai Bank. They can forget that. Also, that is not a requirement. May want to try a different immigration office.
Dany ********
@Michael *******
they didnt let me open a bank account with all those documents. „special tourist visa - cannot“. beeing told the exact same phrase at many bank branches
Michael ********
@Dany *******
interesting. No problems for me. And I think others on this group have done it.
Dany ********
@Michael *******
99% of people trying it and posting here or on reddit or other social media get denied everywhere. did you do it with the DTV? things have changed this year and banks are very strict now.
Michael ********
@Dany *******
The. I was a lucky one. However a lot depends on the clerk. Also helps to have a Thai wife and going to a branch that doesn’t see a lot of foreigners.
Osher *********
They dont let u open bank account because they want you to find agent to do it for you and give them income. I have 1 in pattaya i opened for
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baht if anyone want bangkok bank
Stefan ******
@Osher ********
Some people in the banks for sure. But with BKK bank you can do it yourself also, even on short tourist visas, just be prepared to try several branches (in foreigner areas). It all depends on the branch, mood of the clerk etc.
Greg ***********
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@Stefan *****
two years ago, Thailand introduced new anti-money laundering laws, and banks will have to oblige. Whenever a bank agrees to open an account for you on a tourist visa, they always ask that you have to buy an insurance. Be it a Life insurance or an Accident insurance - it will cost you dearly, from 5000.- THB upward
Greg ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Osher ********
you paid to much. With F.S. Consulting Co in Pattaya, you would have paid 5000.- THB when over 50 years old, and 7500.- THB when over 50, for a Bangkok Bank account. About the same with Mot's Service
Mo ******
I think I will leave for some vacation outside for 1 week and then come back again. This is ridiculous
Rob *********
@Mo *****
Welcome to Thailand
Will ************
All other visas have the same requirements as the initial application requirements with the only difference being money in a Thai bank account for extensions
Luit *****************
@Will ***********
Those other visa you talking about are strictly spoken not valid visa anymore, you just extend the stay you got with the visa. So because the visa itself is not valid anymore, it is reasonable to check if you still comply with the requirements.

The DTV however is still a valid visa, it is multy entry and you can get new stays as long as the expiration date of the visa is not reached.

From that point of view it is strange to check for requirements for the extension of the current stay while the visa itself also is still valid.

I understand why they might want to do this, but it is a strange action, if the immigration officer refuses to extend yor stay because you do not comply, you just walk out of the office, travel to the border and get back with a new stay.
Greg ***********
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@Luit ****************
correct - and it sounds absolutely logic. However we all know, sometimes logic doesn't really shine a lot in Thailand's skies, and Immigration officers as well as many other government offcials, like to interpret things their own way
Luit *****************
Greg Alexander Yes, it happens at all goverment officials, at land office I also needed some extra money to get usufruct clause on my name, allthough that is perfectly legal, my lawyer already warned me before it might be necessary.

In case of DTV I think they just did not realize everything when it was introduced
Greg ***********
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@Luit ****************
well, visa already issued will and must be "grandfathered" . . Yet, it remains to be seen if the DTV just keeps being an imporatant part of the Thai visa system allowing digital nomads to operate out of Thailand without being harassed for breaking the work permit laws. . . . . .what remains to be under scrutiny are the "soft power" options. They are COMPLETELY ridiculous. Booking 3 months of Muay Thai gives me a 5-year visa? I don't think this was what Thai government intended
Luit *****************
Greg Alexander Thailand tries to make visa for every group they want to attract, but obviously there are groups they don't want to attract, but just find ways to use a visa meant for another group.

How many students used the ED visa to learn Thai?

And how many of the 3 months of Muay Thai for DTV will really follow the training?
Greg ***********
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@Luit ****************
how many students got issued a Non-Imm-ED visa but misused it for a longstay, while never ever being interested to learn Thai
Luit *****************
Greg Alexander This is also a kind of easy money for training institutes, they offer an educational traject or a muay thai training, or a cooking course, knowing that a lot of people never come to the training.
Greg ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Will ***********
that's for Non-Imm visa types. The DTV however is a "tourist visa type". There are no money in bank requirements for touristic extensions. . . . . Yet, now we know Immigration introduced a wholly new requirement regarding the extension of a DTV . . . Thai Immigration Bureau Order No.
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requires applicants for a DTV visa extension to show proof of 500,000 THB in funds.
Dany ********
Greg Alexander yeah its just a wrong statement by the IO. you cannot even open a bank account yourself with the DTV at 99% of bank branches
Koin ******
Thai banks refuse to open account with a DTV but immigration asks for a thai account 😅👍
Rob *********
@Koin *****
Welcome to Thailand 😆
Henrik *****
Never base anything on only a few reports, in Thailand.
Greg ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Henrik ****
and of course I would NEVER base anything on what YOU are telling people in Facebook, you wanna-be "expert" 😅
Greg ***********
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@Henrik ****
I know the guy personally, he visited Hua Hin Immigration and that was what they told him! So he will do a border bounce to the Philippines by March, in order to get stamped in for another 180 days on return
Andi ***********
The Thai Supervisor who approved my DTV told me to do a border run as it " is the best and easiest option to extend, you just have to leave and just get stamped back in"
Rob *********
@Andi **********
Finally get a DTV it is not much more different than the normal border bounce (or border run ), you need to leave the country yes or yes , spend money on the way, waste your time etc etc...
Andi ***********
@Rob ********
I travel overseas approx. every 3 months anyway, so it is not a waste of time or money for me. An excellent visa.
Wannikea *********
And soon the predicted anticipated circus show will start. Thanks for the preview trailer
Elías ********
It doesn't seems like anything new to me. Leaving and entering again is the go for. As for the money in a Thai bank, I'd be more than willing to put it, but they won't even allow us to open a bank account, so 😂
Winston ************
Blows my mind why there's even a so-called "heated debate" over this. Anybody who contemplates extending this visa within Thailand is a fool. The simplest no-brainer solution is to just leave and reenter, getting a fresh-no-questions-asked 180 day stamp! Period.
Rob *********
@Winston ***********
So... What is the difference between a border bounce and a DTV then ? No make sense, currently you can stay here 3 months + extension without proof anything, and after that leave the country and start again, I live here for almost 8 years and I had student visas for 1 year (3 times, each time one year in the country without living), COVID extensions, tourists, I do not see the "big" improvement of this DTV visa comparing with the old ones.
Greg ***********
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@Rob ********
you can expect your consecutive border runs coming to an end very soon. The times are a changing. Immigration has become tougher with their ruling. You will soon be in for a surprise, and I hope you got a "plan B" just in case
Rob *********
Greg Alexander well I had three times student visas, I had COVID extensions, visiting family visas and some border runs, I never was rejected in the border (one time I was almost rejected after COVID, but finally I was able to entry 😆).
Greg ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Rob ********
then Good Luck in the months to come
Rob *********
Greg Alexander Will see how long the Thai gob will keep the DTV, there are zero guarantees, as always with everything in Thailand.
Dany ********
@Rob ********
DTV is a multiple entry visa and you can easily come and go… visa exemption and border runs are gaming the system and they are cracking down on these. so with the DTV you comply with the rules.
Rob *********
@Dany *******
I never broke the rules with my legal visas , so... No big difference
Dany ********
@Rob ********
if you do visa run after visa run then in the eyes of the officials you are gaming the system and you are living inside the country on a wrong „visa“. it is what it is. you might face problems at some point. there is no reason to risk a denial at the border when you can just have a DTV. plus with the DTV you need to

think less about visa / border runs / mood of an official, etc…
Elías ********
@Winston ***********
Exactly. Many countries to visit, many options to choose from.
Mikhail *********
Thai Immigration Bureau Order No.
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requires applicants for a visa extension to show proof of 500,000 THB in funds. However, it does not specify if the money needs to be in a Thai bank account or how long it must be kept there.
Sakura *****
let me just tell you how incompetent the immigration in Hua hin was for me. I went there to get a 90 days report. the first lady told me she needs to see my leasing contract before able to do that for me. she asks me to print it out and show her. and I left to print out within 5 minutes. came back got a new line, and talk to the second lady, she told me that the contract is not good enough now. she needs me to show her my TM30. Which is weird, because in Huahin they don't need a TM30 , bangkok does. anyway, what a watse of time, I left and did 90 days report online, and in couple hours, it was r confirmed and done. what a joke seriously.
Wannikea *********
@Sakura ****
a TM30 filed within the immigration office jurisdiction will almost always be required to obtain any services at your local immigration office
Sakura *****
@Wannikea ********
for 30 day extension yes, for 90 days report in Hua hin, no, get your fact checked. Also if you can read, you would know.
Greg ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Sakura ****
well, some Immigrations when you visit personally for a 90-days report, will not service you if you arent't TM30 registered at the place you are currently staying
Greg ***********
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@Mikhail ********
. . that's the requirement for the application to the DTV itself. It is NOT any requirement for the "extension"
Mikhail *********
Greg ***********
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@Mikhail ********
ah, alright. Thank you!
Christopher ********
The visa is meant that you leave Thailand and come back really.
Sergei *****
No one knows for sure yet (I think the Thais don't know it themselves), but yes there are rumors that they will require 500k in the account to extend the dtv visa.
Dany ********
@Sergei ****
not only rumors. if you want to extend then you will need proof again. and all documents you initially provided. but the financial document beeing the most important one. IO are telling that for months already actually
Luit *****************
@Sergei ****
The 500k is perfectly logical to ask for, to see if you still comply with the initial rules, but to have it in a Thai bank is completely unlogical.
Jonas *************
@Luit ****************
this is Thailand, logic does not apply.
John *******
Strange answer since most banks won’t even let you open a Thai bank account with DTV
Mo ******
@John ******
this is called red tape