You can try the site that the owner of this group created. They made a more user friendly version and it's also free as long as you are submitting within the same 3-day window that the official site offers.

Most likely they're just lazy and don't want to deal with it. So they try to push you off on someone else.

@Abu *******

They still require you to DO 90 day reports, they just don't require you have done one in order to get a residence certificate any longer.

@Pete *****

You did not select non-O. You selected non-OA. You picked the wrong option. Go back and start a new application and choose the retirement pensioner option for not greater than 90 days.

@Roberto ********

Not quite. July 2021 there was a 9PM-4AM curfew and anyone out could be fined by police. I remember friends rushing to get home, or having to pay taxis triple the normal amount after 9PM.

Yes, it would be counterproductive to include documentation for a different type of application if that's not the basis you are applying on. The embassy staff are easily confused, and anything you send that isn't requested is a good way to cause issues.

As far as why apply for one and not the other. Well you would have to pay for a course to apply for the soft power, whereas someone applying based purely on workcation would not have to do so. It also gives you cover for the future, in the event immigration starts requiring proof of ongoing activity for entry with the visa.

How? You don't. You have only 2 options to apply for a non-O visa based on retirement in Thailand. Proof of a Thai bank account in your name with 800,000 baht, or embassy certified income. If your embassy does not certify income, then that means you are left with only one option.

The same goes for the first annual extension, you either show the bank account balance, or embassy certified income. If your embassy doesn't do that, then the bank balance is the only option.

For the 2nd annual extension, you can use monthly international transfers into your account to satisfy the monthly income requirement. But that will not work for the visa (if trying to apply in Thailand) or the first annual extension, even if you had the Thai bank account for 10 years with monthly transfers, it is not accepted.

@Frank *********

pretty sure they just say 7 days to cover their ass in case it takes longer than usual

@Adam ********

just one

EVERY entry into Thailand with a multiple entry visa gives you the full amount of days that visa provides. So with a DTV you'll get a brand new 180 day stamp every time you enter until the expiration date on your visa.