DTV extension. Some say we have to resubmit all docs again for the extension after the initial 180 days of DTV visa. (hope this is a joke)
OR, we can do border run to extend it without going through the docs check.
Cause my concern is, what if one does not have the employment anymore after the initial approval of the DTV visa. I think they can still keep the visa status somehow, I heard.
thanks for you help!!
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This discussion focuses on the nuances of extending the Thailand Digital Nomad Visa (DTV), which is granted for 180 days initially. Users debate whether one must resubmit all documentation for an extension or if a border run is a feasible option to avoid documentation checks. Concerns are raised about maintaining visa status after losing employment, with opinions differing on the implications of such changes and risks of being considered in violation of visa conditions. It is noted that extensions generally require updated proof of ongoing employment or support, whereas border runs currently may not involve checks for ongoing activities. However, a consensus emerges that compliance with visa conditions is essential to avoid issues.
One wonders why so many anonymous comments in this group π€. Mostly negative ones.
Anonymous ******************
If you lose your job and don't cancel your DTV on basis of workation, then you are in violation of your visa conditions and cheating the system by doing the border runs! Criminal!
Respect the rules of the Kingdom or they will crack down on the good guys too. You should convert to a MTV (multiple entry tourist visa) and stay 100% legal. Ask your local immigration officer if you have any questions.
Siggi *******
Anonymous participant 300 you ate an troll anonymous posting lies. You not breaking any rules when you change employment. It's a tourist visa and not based on employment.
DTV isn't a tourist in fact working online while on a tourist visa wild be talk in itself and no longer having any work while using a DTV based on online work is highly suspect.
dtv is a tourist visa,nothing else, and there are no clear parameter for this visa and every visa is valid until it expire when you meet the criteria at the date of application, so you will never loose this visa until it expires, same like any non-o visa
No it isn't. A tourist visa is a tourist visa, a destination thailand visa is a destination thailand visa. They are different in every aspect of implementation and are treated differently (5 year driving licenses for example) in country. They have different working permissions and quite simply, nothing about them is the same.
As to visas being valid until expiry, that again is wrong when a visa has a grounds of issue. If they issue a tourist visa then you can always be a tourist, if they issue a work visa it is valid when you are still in work. That's how all the other classes work.
you don't have any clue, it's even in the visa written it's a tourist visa!!!! And only extensions can be cancelled never a visa. And it's not a work visa or permission to work, you can work online on any visa or no visa at all. Only because you post every day it doesn't mean you know anything
so who is canceling visas? Who has the authority to cancel? So why non O visas never get cancelled only extensions? But what I know a simple guy who studied anglo Saxon law compared to a Facebook specialist? ππ
Sefton ********
Ohh and I just checked my DTV issued last year and no where on the DTV or the entry stamp does it have any mention of tourist visa.
it is true, the DTV is categorized as a tourist visa and it is written in the official law text for the DTV publicized in the royal gazette about a year ago. check it out if you dont believe it. it is a fact.
Sefton ********
People get deported for committing crimes, and have thier visas cancelled when that happens, constantly.. To say it never happens is just ridiculous. That is just one of many reasons why they can be cancelled (as happens literally daily when people wish to transition visa classes).
There is no current system of ongoing checks on DTVs, but if you were to go and tell local immigration you no longer qualified for the DTV on the grounds you applied, the chances of them cancelling the visa and giving you the 7 days to leave stamp is VERY real.
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John **********
Anonymous participant 300 calm down anonymous participant.
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Anonymous participant 300 and where exactly are these conditions printed? Oh yeah no where
Sefton ********
Anonymous participant 495 standard part of Thai immigration rules. If your ground for issue change your no longer entitled to the visa.
Divorce ?? 7 days to leave. Death of a partner ?? Same. Lose you job ?? Same.
This is how they work.
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Anna *********
Itβs true much easier to do a border run
Marvin ********
This is weird. Especially for the soft power classes like you would do with Discover Thai Nature. From what I understand, you do a year's worth of seminars and that's it. What would they make you do to confirm things for the remaining 4 years?
General thinking, immigration don't like DTV (its costing them money in fees, backhanders and side buisnesses like visa run companys and agents) so they are making it difficult as possible. DTV is a foriegn office issued visa (like nearly all visas). Immigration cannot shut it down or interfere to much but they can make life difficult like this
At the moment no checking of ongoing activity at entry. Will this change in the future - nobody knows. A bit like the Ed visa in a way - they started checking on attendance in some places and some were tested on progress in language at entry. People will just have to deal with the situation when it arises but right now no need to prove ongoing activity at border entry points.
They might check attendance and further classes booked and paid for. It is not hard if they want to do it. Checking 500k will knock back plenty too if they went that route.
No one knows... But extending at immigration requires an ongoing activity for sure.
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David ********
My first extension is due. I went to immagration and they said you come 45 days prior to expiry date. You must take all the documents + 2 photos of me outside my residence + 2 photos inside my residence+ map of my residence with lat & long location+ landlords id and blue book. It seemed like they were unsure they showed my the only other DTV extension they had done and alot of paperwork. So l am flying to KL for couple of days stamp back in. It's a holiday and less to worry about
Its not a joke lol. You either extend at immigration and have to provide all documents again or you leave the country and come back (border run). Those are your options. Good luck.
Evan *******
Maybe I'm missing something here or don't understand "extension", but why go through all that work when you could fly to Hanoi for a couple of days, come back and start over? It's that a hell of a lot easier? Or am I being stupid about it?
your nor missing anything the extension is more time consuming to gather paperwork required but only cost is 1900 bht. Border bounce is easier but is going to cost more depends on location and how long you stay out. It's that simple
no extension is fine at immagration and is 1900 bht only. If you border bounce no cost
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Evan *******
oh ok...i always get ultra-cheap flights to hanoi on TG and use a corporate code at the Hanoi Hilton Garden Inn so its a nice cheap holiday compared to days of paperwork, stress, possible denial, and government payment. No thanks.
Nope, you're not... most DTVer do a border bounce, some could not even get an extension if they want... π
Evan *******
Its ironic, you get to stay for 180 days and must report every 90; now that I'm living in Thailand I travel so much I haven't made it to a 90-day report once. :P
I was same for a few years pre-COVID. When travel was stopped the admin staff in our office had to start doing it for about 20 of us. Once in person then online.
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This is not a joke. That's how most visas work around the world. You're granted a visa for a specific purpose, which in your case would be to live as a digital nomad with ongoing online work. Most other non-immigrant visas in Thailand also need to be renewed/extended each year with a large number of documents.
Some people say, "You keep your status" but not really. They assume you do because there hasnβt been strict border control so far. However, other visas like the Non-B, ED, or Marriage visa are immediately canceled (or must be canceled) when the visa holder no longer meets the purpose for which the visa was issued, regardless of its remaining validity.
Nothing indicates that the DTV will be different. Maybe it will be, but thereβs no official guarantee. In fact, Thai immigration requires full documentation when applying for an extension and that suggests they may (or not) check it more closely.
Brandon ************
Anonymous participant 629 you cannot cancel a visa. It's the work extension, education extension, or marriage extension that is cancelled, not the original visa, because it cannot be cancelled. So the DTV is not like the others.
It cannot be canceled? So how people do when being terminated or when academic term is finished within the first visa year?
Brandon ************
Anonymous participant 629 did you even read what I wrote? They cancel their EXTENSION. They are not on a visa. DTV people are on a VISA. A VISA cannot be cancelled. If someone enters Thailand for work on a non-B visa and they stop working within that first 90 days, they can stay the entire 90 days because they're on a VISA that cannot be cancelled. If they're on an extension and stop working then that EXTENSION ends the same day the reason for that extension ends.
Well yeah as for the 180 days DTV extension... You're required to provide proves of ongoing activity or work. You may not lose the visa but may just be refused extension. The only question is about how strict they will want to be at the border. If they start checking the docs, the end result would be the same: no entry if not fulfilling initial visa purposes.
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Greg ********
For an extension, they usually ask for an updated employment letter in the workaytion category. If you do a visa run there are currently no checks for ongoing activity.
John **********
If you apply for an extension the immigration office will want to see updated proof and establish you have the funds in place. A border bounce to get a fresh 180 days stamp is your only option if you can no longer substantiate your status.