@John *******

I bet you cried like a baby when you got smacked for doing something wrong too 🤣🤣🤣

It is illegal to avoid using the 800,000 method, if the Immigration Officer is investigated (yes this does happen), all of their visas issued are cancelled and you will be forced to leave Thailand. Is it really worth the risk to save a net amount of 5 to 10,000 baht (after agent fees). Up to you.

@Andy *********

it was the other way round for me. My wife told me afterwards that the interpreter asked her if I could speak Thai and then said 'are you sure!'. My wife is beautiful and ...I am older and not beautiful 🤣

@Andy *********

great explanation/advice. I stupidly didn't use an agent, but on reflection I definitely should have, it would have definitely been worth it. Not saying it's complicated, but involves a lot of running around Bangkok that would have been reduced. They also arrange the interpreter that is mandatory at Bang Rak. I have never used an agent for visas, to give some context.

@Aake *********

apologies, 790,400 baht per month is what they stated. It should be even easier then.

@Dave ********

relax Dave, if you are exhausted, take a couple of days and just ask your landlord if they have filed the tm30. If not you can rectify the situation.

If you go to immigration ask for a list of their requirements for the 12 month extension and the application form as it will save you another journey later.

@Gary *******

non o a requires insurance and criminal check, but you don't need to deposit 800k in Thailand. I think you need to leave every 12 months too.

Most people use the non o.

@Wayne **********

great advice, I have exactly the same experience.

If you get the non o retirement in the UK, you don't need insurance or a criminal check. It should be fairly straightforward, although my recollection is that the system is a bit clunky when uploading the evidence (it might have improved)just be patient and keep trying.

Once you get the visa, come to Thailand, make sure immigration stamp you in using the non o visa.

Open a bank account in the first few days and deposit the 800,000. Make sure when you transfer the money it shows as an international transfer (if using Wise, I think you use the option to purchase a property ').

Go to your local immigration office and ask for their requirements for a 12 month extension of stay based on retirement.

Get a 6 month lease property with a contract that contains the owners id and their house ownership book.

When you get to to 15 days left of your visa, go to the immigration office with all of the evidence they requested and apply.

Keep a folder with all your documents, photocopies and photos in as you will need the same information regularly in Thailand.

Good luck and enjoy!

No, you will need to save up for 2 months and deposit 800,000 for the first year.

If you deposit the 709,000 each month for a year, the second year's extension can be based on your monthly income.