no in Jakarta you have to pay when you apply. Ans sign a paper that you forfeit the fee if rejected. Same as online application. You then come 3 days later to pick up the visa or rejection. I witnessed one “pick up rejection “ when i picked up my DTV.
Which is what this post also say 🤷🏻 I applied about 2 months ago in Jakarta.
Got it. And i was just pointing out they are the same thing. Whatever comment you replied to was deleted, i guess that’s where the confusion comes on. Without context thats what it looks like you are saying. All good though
“Michael Hay II There is no enter by date on my DTV. Not sure where you are seeing that”