@Tony *********

it is quite common, or at least was, when talking about the non-o based on marriage such as myself and the op. I moved here on a tourist visa, got married to my fiance and converted to the non-o. All without having to leave the country.

Like the op, I couldn't apply for for the non-o in my home country before moving since we had not gotten married yet. Now in that situation one just has to fly to a neighboring country to apply for the non-o since its far more difficult to open the bank account on anything but a longterm visa. This was not the case several years ago.

@James *****

the op is talking about when you enter Thailand on exempt or tourist visa and want to convert that to the initial 90 day non-o inside of Thailand, which requires the finances to be in Thai bank account. Now that they have been making it harder and harder to open an account on a tourist visa its more of a catch 22 situation. One of the workarounds is to apply for it outside of thailand, which only requires you to show the finances somewhere, not necessarily in a thai account.

@Andrew *******

🤣🤣🤣 You accuse me of just repeating what you said when that was literally what you did. I was very clear that INSIDE of thailand you need the thai account and OUTSIDE of thailand you do not. Then you accuse me of being quick to respond that "no you're wrong" when again that was literally what you did. My response never called you wrong, only repeated the clarification that you left out. You call leaving that critical info out as extra steps🤣

The op stated he was coming to thailand to get married. So it is not a matter of him not having the time to apply before he comes as you state.

Reading comprehension isn't your strength. Feel free to delete your comment out of embarrassment 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

@Andrew *******

you absolutely need the funds in a thai bank account in your name only when applying for the non-o based on marriage inside of Thailand. When you apply OUTSIDE of Thailand then it is as you say. You can show a bank account from your home country to meet the financial requirement.

You need to have the bank account to apply for the initial non-o inside of Thailand. It is next to impossible to do without an agent, and only slightly easier if you can find the right agent and bank. Alternatively you can easily fly to a neighboring country once you are married and have all the paperwork and apply for a single entry non-o there.

You'll get a more specific answer if you mention which office you are using. Different offices have slightly different requirements when it comes to that. In Chiang Mai I needed one witness there when they came for the house visit. In Koh Samui they wanted two witnesses at the house visit. Witnesses were not required to go to the immigration office though.

Visa exempt means you do not need a visa to enter. Therefore you do not need to apply for one and have no need for the website to work.

Its really not that hard, but the reality is you may not have to. I have lived in Thailand for 5 years and have not once re-filed a TM30 for my home address despite staying in many hotels that filed one. I haven't even re-filed after leaving the country and returning. Only once has immigration even said anything, and then they just updated my TM30 on the spot.

@Keith ***********

correct. That's why I said any DTA "may come into play and nothing is owed". I did not say a DTA automatically meant one would not owe taxes. Perhaps my wording wasn't the best though.

@Kevin ********************

depends. That's why everyone is confused. Too many people just automatically think they need to pay. The reality is a lot of people's income isn't assesable and don't even need to file taxes. Even if it is assessable and one needs to file, double tax agreements may come into play and nothing is owed.