@Ian *********

ah well this WOULD explain a lot. He can get the visa in Vientiane with the birth certificate, but he cannot get the 12-months extension based on this certificate on Immigration. VERY irrational, the mind boggles. . . . . but please, keep on reading what I am saying 😎😄

@Maxim **********

maybe that's why Thai people need electronic calculators to add 14 to 60 . . . and the Immigration officers are all the same - incapable of counting ?

@Maxim **********

that's very sad to hear. . . .it means that they are preventing REAL tourists from entering. People who don't have the slightest intention of misusing the visa exempt system. IF officially (!!) two exempt entries are allowed and two extensions, per running year, which is 60+30 and 60+7 = 157 days of stay, then WHY would they not allow real tourists 6 visa exempt entries for a 14 days holiday stay each, and every time? The total amount would be only 84 days within one year . .. it is a shame, it is irrational. They are able to see the total days on their Central Computer, every traveller has a profile in their computer showing all relevant data and previous entries. Why would they deliberately keep REAL tourists out of Thailand instead of welcoming them for several holidays throughout the year ? The mind boggles

@Michael *******

with which document did you prove for the Vientiane embassy that you are the father? If it was the cild's birth certificate, this would be really laughable, because a mother at birth, can name any male person as being the alleged father, it needn't be the "real" father. So a birth certificate alone, normally should not bear any weight, but certain embassies and Immigration offices seem to not give a royal f... about it

@Andrew *******

Facts are FACTS. . . . . . .He is not married to the mother, thus he doesn't have any automatic parental rights and cannot apply for the Non-O Family Visa.

Even with his name on the birth certificate, he normally still needs a Thai Family Court order or an Amphur registration and acknowledgement, to be the legal father of the child

It also can depend on the age of the kid, to get legal paternal rights.

Some people claim they were able to get registered as the legal father on the Amphur, even when they were NOT married to the mother, as long as the child is under 5 years old. I strongly doubt these reports or a “got lost in translation”. You would need to be married to the mother.

Without an acknowledged marriage and the Kor Ror 22 or 2 (whichever applies)

OR

the Amphur or Thai Family Court issued document that acknowledges his paternal rights,

he can’t apply neither for the Non-Imm-O Family Visa, nor for the 1-year Extension

Lavender Smiles You are WRONG! . . . . He is not married to the mother, thus he doesn't have any automatic parental rights and cannot apply for the Non-O Family Visa and the subsequent 1-year Extension.

Even with his name on the birth certificate, he normally still needs a Thai Family Court order or an Amphur registration and acknowledgement, to be the legal father of the child

It also can depend on the age of the kid, to get legal paternal rights.

Some people claim they were able to get registered as the legal father on the Amphur, even when they were NOT married to the mother, as long as the child is under 5 years old. I strongly doubt these reports or a “got lost in translation”. You would need to be married to the mother.

Without an acknowledged marriage and the Kor Ror 22 or 2 (whichever applies)

OR

the Amphur or Thai Family Court issued document that acknowledges his paternal rights,

he can’t apply neither for the Non-Imm-O Family Visa, nor for the 1-year Extension

It is YOU who is spreading disinformation. Stop this immediately.

@Gardar **************************

I think it also depends on the age of the kid, to get legal paternal rights. Some people reported they were able to get registered as the legal father on the Amphur, even when not married to the mother, as long as the chiled is under 5 years old

@Terrence ******

I am again telling you that this is wrong.

@Michael *******

There is no 2-times limit to visa exempt entries. The count method is "per 1-year period", not per calendar year. They look back at your 365-days recent stay history, and if you have reached 157 days accumulated stays by visa-exempt entries (no matter how many you did!) they will deny entry. You can have as many visa-exempt short holidays as you want and still be classed "real tourist" as long as you don't maximize each stay and keep below the 157 days mark. There but is a 2-times limit to extensions of the 60-days out of a visa-exempt entry. The first extension will be 30 days, and the second extension will only be for 7 days. 60+30+60+7 = 157 days maximum per "one-year period"

@Terrence ******

WRONG! There is no such limit. The count method is "per 1-year period", not per calendar year. They look back at your 365-days recent stay history, and if you have reached 157 days accumulated stays by visa-exempt entries (no matter how many you did!) they will deny entry. The number of visa exempt entries is NOT limited, the number of extensions (!!) for those is limited to two per one-year period

@God ******

he is not married to the mother, thus he doesn't have any parental rights and cannot apply for the Non-O Family Visa. Even with his name on the birth certificate, he still needs a Thai Family Court order to be the legal father of the child