And to get the WP Application accepted and stamped as a Receipt one has to show proof of leaving Thailand by sending copies of Exit stamp and Entrance Stamps (exiting Thailand and entering the neighbor country) to a Visa Agent to show to the LM officer.

Therefore, depending of how your local Labor Ministry office operates you could be out of the country getting your 90 day B Visa for 7 - 10 - 14 days.

The WP. 3 stamped as a Receipt can be gotten from most Labor Ministry offices same time as the Application BUT depending on the way a particular Labor Ministry operates - the Official Letter may be produced the same day as the WP Application and WP. 3 Receipt OR it can take up to a Week to get the letter.

Also in Penang to get a Single Entry B Visa 90 days - you must show the Original WP. 3 and the Official Original letter from the Labor Ministry. No computer generated Pdf copy sent by email allowed.

After checking several sources - at the Thai Consulate in Penang - to get the 12 month Multi Entry B Visa a person has to show a Work Permit and have 8 months left on the life of the WP. Plus all the other docs needed to get the 90 day B Visa as done before.

Duncan _ I have replied once already ,,, but I don't know how you missed it - I was purposely talking only about the age 50 and over Expats as they / we are a very low risk group security wise and why pull strings and make people dance around when there is little risk? Unless it is just Sport for some Thai Immigration officials ... AND I KNOW Thai Immigration is not going to do anything about it ... That was not my point ... even though Thai Immigration will stick with their stuck in the mud ways and never change... I do not have to like it and will make my thoughts known ...

By the way ... I spent 15 months here on a Multi-Entry O in 2014 / 15 and not one place reported my presence. I got a Residency Certificate in Krabi by providing my own chronological record of where I had stayed - some 10 different places. Plus I have lived in the same place now since for 2.5 years and no one has ever turned in a TM.30 ...so much for the bullet proof system..

I fully understand that it is not just Expats but Expats constitute a large number of the total... AND prefaced my entire comment by limiting the impact only to Expats - not to some others

It is not a matter of explaining or education - it is a matter that immigration has not done what they should have done long ago - that is merged the two reports in a common sense manner. It is not reasonable in any shape manner or form to assume that a person on a long Extension of Stay having to do a 90 day report is not going to return to the exact same address they left upon leaving the country when overlapping a report date. I bet money a survey of Expats who are on Annual Extensions of Stay would reveal that 95% return to the same address they had upon exiting Thailand. And that when those Expats reenter and do a 90 day report they will post an unchanged address to the tune of 95%. People are not stupid and easily see the illogic of it all. It seems that Thai Immigration is assuming that 95% change their address upon returning to Thailand AND it is illogical to believe that. Yes both reporting requirements are different rules and they are the law - but just because it is the law does not remove the illogical nature of the way immigration in Phuket / Paytong wants to enforce it. Pushing illogical rules with threats of big fines only breeds contempt. Most Long Stay Expats are stable in their residence - most have invested time, trouble, money and effort. Immigration should not enforce a redundant rule just because they can - just because they have the unquestioned power and authority to do it. Yes - in the end - we will do it - we will comply but at the expense of creating disrespect. There is no history - none of over age 50 Expats doing any bombing anywhere in Thailand. The culprit was here on after bribing a I/O at a Cambodian border checkpoint. Double tracking older Expats will do nothing to keep Thailand safe. And Yes - much of this kind of over reaction by immigration is due to the Erawan bomber successfully evading proper reporting as a guest at a Bkk Guesthouse. / End of Rant...

I was speaking in reference to the O-A being a Multi Entry yet still reporting as compared to the Non O Multi Entry which is only border bounce.

Yes - but oddly enough 90 day reports are still required.

I agree with you on this view ...