@John *********

Related to all this, from 30,000 feet.

My colleague (I am a former IBM) was a technical leader for this Immigration Optimisation. Took them 5 years to get where they are now and what we see from the Thai Immigration site.

The idea was and is, keep the foreigners on a short leash. That will never change, he said.

I replied to you before, you could not have a valid Blue Book unless you are a Thai national

Alexander Groos In some quarters, it does. Like having or not having a Thai passport. Thais with their Blue Book do not have to have Thai passport, ever, most do not have it. That is all they ever need (Thai ID is issued based on Ble Book). Only when travelling abroad.

Yellow book, I have owned a condo in Bangkok since 2008. No any books, the City Council said the property is empty, nobody lives in there.

Living in Japan, our daughter got into the Blue Book in a province. I got into their Yellow Book.

But, But, only after my wife got terminally ill, cancer (in Japan) and I looked after her for years in hospital. It ended well.

Only then her family decided I am a person worth getting into their family home, Yellow Book.

My wife was telling me, her family did not trust a foreigner (hardly any family in the provinces does) until then.

Me, as a foreigner, could possibly claim ownership or whatever on their property. Then they dropped those worries and accepted me with open arms. Saved their daughter.

There was no need, had never been for me, we got the Blue Book and Yellow book for our Bangkok condo, disengaged from their provincial City Council.

My wife and our Thai daughter are getting invitations for elections at our Bangkok address.

We do not live there full time but still.

Judy Blyth That is exactly what I am saying.

I was laughed at by a Mod here when I said that my American neighbor, Bangkok, had laminated his TM30 from 2017 and uses that same copy since then for every 1 year extension.

Edit: laminated the TM30 docket that stays with his passport.

Ron Duke You had to have the Yellow Book before you got the Thai Pink ID. Mostly, the same time and the same place (City Council).

Robby Vollebregt Impossible. You can not have the Blue Book as a foreigner. It would be like condo developers give you Thai citizenship and Thai passport. You just plainly lied here.

Alexander Groos Impossible unless you became a Thai citizen. Like having a Thai passport.

Alexander Groos Do not bullshit here. The Blue book is for Thai nationals only, you could not ever ever have it.

Ralph Tyson Immigration does not sift through your passport pages to check on your stamps. As soon as Imm officer swipes your passport, they see on their screens your travel history into Thai. Previous passes through the automatic gates feed into that. It is all on their screens.

As other contrubutors posted, unlesss there is an excessive history of ins and outs PLUS extensions of stays, border runs, you have no problem.

While I was based in Singapore, I was coming to Thai 10 times a year for stays anything from one weekend to 4 weeks, never any problem. Obviously, I was not trying to live in Thai. A cache loaded tourst who spends money in Thai.

Just think of those fellows working Gas&Oil who come to Thay almost every 2nd month for stays 2-4 weeks (or whatever their FIFO work holidays allowes them). FIFO is Fly In Fly Out job. At Immigration, the FIFO are same as you, no Imm officer cares what their job is, they might not even know.

I had never been asked a question about my frequent visits. If I were, I would not have mentioned I had a Thai wife and daughter in Thai. Would not mention I owned a condo in Bangkok.

Just temples, elefants, beaches and general chilling and relaxing from my work.