@Kôrô ********

if you are determined to come, you'll have to fly to neighbouring country and come in by land check point. And you'll need to carry all the evidence of your blacklisting. It does take a while for blacklisting to be updated ....

@Kôrô ********

and you don't know that you have been blacklisted at all ? I guess Thailand is the last country that will be forced to explain anything to anyone. I don't know where you'd start. Do you know if they have your biometrics and facial imprint ? When did you last leave Thailand ? Biometrics only slowly rolled out starting 2020-2021.

@Louis ***********

not cheaper than wise ever.

@Jo *********

lol, thank you for confirming or agreeing that it is a fact, it is a rule, and for sharing your personal experience. I won't suggest or demand that 36million annual visitors carry 20,000baht. But let them know the facts/rules, and they can decide for themselves. This is what people come to this group for, the facts. And yes my comparison with drink driving is extreme. Apologies, I was quite argumentative yesterday. Good day to you 🌻

@Wayne ******

so you say that the rule/requirement to carry 20k baht does not exist ? There is no rule about this, written or otherwise ? But yes I absolutely agree, most people have never been asked, including myself. But then I've never been breathalyzed driving my car by the police. So does that mean drink driving is not illegal ? Your reply would be more useful to all if you agreed or disagreed, then stated that you'd never been asked, which is your personal experience.

@Jo *********

depends on the source of some of your income I guess. I have a mostly cash based business, so naturally I have cash at hand, and around the house, in shoe boxes, stacked up, in the loft, under the Mattress, In the glovebox, buried in the ground, x marks the spot. Clients like to pay in cash, believing they get a better price than paying by bank transfer. Accepting cash allows me to chose when to bank this, ie months or years of lower income, to maximise tax efficiency. Carwashes, convenience stores, laundry shops, vending machine operators, sunbed shops, market stalls, many retail shops and small cafes and coffee shops and drug dealers, all still accepting cash. Who's the chap with the 99p shops ? He's got 200 retail shops. The international drugs trade, approaching $1 trillion US dollars annually, largely in cash. Don't be fooled by each the governments addition of covid-19 as a reason to drive to convert to cashless, they are only thinking of themselves.

@Ruth ******

I don't need or want to prove you wrong, and it was more of a discussion, rather than 'fighting'. I'm sorry you felt that way, so I shall leave it right there. I wish you all the very best Ruth 🙏

@Ruth ******

well, maybe you are teaching me something, I'm open to that. But consider that a £6-7 GBP ATM fee would put any bank at a serious loss on even a maximum withdrawal. Others have claimed the same as you, but I've never seen it clearly marked

on a statement. So you, and everyone with your account, can go to an ATM and withdraw the minimum amount $10 or $20 and the bank will waive their own fee, plus reimburse you the 220 baht charge at the ATM. It would cost them $10 to give you $10 dollars, and leave them open to abuse of this. You could rent an ATM, automate it to make the minimum withdrawal over and over and collect the 220-250 baht ATM fee. That's not how banks work. Unless you are of course accepting their exchange rates, which might just about cover this loss, and in which case you are ultimately paying the ATM fee yourself, it's just disguised in any currency exchange, instead of ATM charges, as that is how the card is sold - "no overseas ATM charges" while their selling at currencies for 6% less than others. My bank in the UK is terrible for FX, and they'll do anything to get you to FX OR spend forgiegn currency on your card. Even with a platinum account for. £19 a month. There is no fee for using the card overseas, and limited to £400 a month cash withdrawals, but the local 220 baht ATM is there on the withdrawal. So if I take 1000 baht, my account shows a withdrawal of 1220 baht. It's not itemized on the statement.

@Ron ******

Interesting to know. I'll take a read of that later. thank you Ron

@Ron ******

is it that way around Ron ? I don't know myself, but I thought it makes more sense from an IT perspective for each country to send regular updated blacklists out to airlines, and for airlines to do the check themselves at the airline end. Imagine the amount of in/outs, requests, whatever. And if a system should go offline, you got planes grounded all over the world. Obviously this check can only be done 1-2 hours before flight time, incase of last minute bookings, and other passenger or airline changes.