What steps should two ladies take to retire and move to Thailand with pets?

Sep 10, 2023
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Suzanne ******
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Hi there

So we are 2 ladies want to retire to Thailand.

Have 2 dogs, 2 cats

Where do we even start?

We know we need to open an account and deposit $$. Not a problem

Anything we should bring from Canada? I heard sheets cost alot and are only 1.

Electronics? Any other things people brought or regret not bringing?

Any advice would be great ,

When to apply and what visas to start with.

Can we or should we if we come visit, secure accomodations to live.

We plan to sell everything in Canada.

Hua hin is the area we will start with.

Negative comments not needed
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This conversation addresses the planning needed for two Canadian women who wish to retire in Thailand, including considerations for bringing pets (2 dogs and 2 cats), opening a bank account, necessary visa applications, and advice on what to bring from Canada. The topic also delves into the nuances of living in Thailand, particularly regarding accommodation options, the practicality of shipping belongings, and local amenities like bedding and electronics. Several commenters share their experiences and recommendations, emphasizing the importance of visiting Thailand prior to making a permanent move to better understand the local environment, lifestyle, and available resources.
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Kuu *****
Before doing so, I would recommend you to come and live in Thailand for few years at different places. After few years you can then decide where in Thailand to settle forever. Do your good homework before take such huge decision. But overall, thailand is really very nice place to retire.
Pohnnipa ************
Fitted sheets are everywhere (big malls like Central). We live in China and every time we go back to Thailand; we have to buy the fitted sheets cause it’s hard to find good ones over here. It costs about USD 30 for a set of very decent ones like Lotus or Elle brand.
Lynn ***********************
Save all receipts from visa purchases, 90 day reporting proofs, airline ticket stubs, apartment rental payments because you might be asked someday to prove how you got in to Thailand. Take these with you when you go to immigration to get your retirement visas granted and also when you renew a year later.

I found that it took attention to detail and a mountain of paperwork to be able to get in and stay in over the last 2 years.

Also, get three power strips that are able to handle 110v-240v simultaneously from Amazon. The ones we got are from Superdanny, have six plug spots and 4 USB charging spots on them. Very difficult to find these things here and we found them to be the best things we brought from the USA.
Jeff *******
Bring underwear for one week in a carryon suitcase

Buy what you think you need when you get there

It's hot you don't need much keep it that way

Use debit cards at the ATM

Bring backup cards

You can rent a house for less than 200 a month in Pattaya

Start there
Michael *****
You can pretty much order anything from lazada & have it delivered to your front door.
Terary **********
@Michael ****
except licorice.. You may be able to order it but its expensive and delivery times are ridiculous
Jay *******
Check Chumpon Beach area as well.
Sandy ******
Bring ur suitcase n bikinis, dont apply for anything yet, stay in different locations, chiangmai, huahin, Samui, where ever then slowly, find ur favorite. Holiday and lifetime location is a different feel. After u decided then u apply for whatever visa u prefer. Everything is reasonably priced, unless u have a special needs.
Pablo ********
smart move leaving canada. anything your forget you can purchase here, but fitted sheets are tough to find
Judy *******
@Pablo *******
Fitted sheets are very common - you just need to know your mattress size and depth - which is difficult if you don't know what bed you are going to have if living in a rental
Michael *************
You need to visit here before you get too far along the road to relocating. There are businesses that can help you with all the details and the move. Visit first, talk to a concierge business, then decide if, when, and how.
Terry ********
Thomas *******
Negative comments are needed, or you're just living in dreamland and denial.

Grow up
Thomas *******
Mike ********
@Thomas ******
that’s the kind of asshole negative comments she’s talking about.
Andy *******
@Thomas ******
yes, it's kind of strange, good knowledge comes from people passing on the good and bad insights they know from personal experience, both equally helpful... If 2 people say they brought fridges, tv, washing machine and power tools with no problems, but 20,000 people experienced problems from shipping, customs, corruption, 200% duty and bribery to get goods cleared, I know which stories I want to hear, but if only 2 positive are allowed, then they get the wrong advice and will get problems later ...
Nick ****************
@Andy ******
welcome to feedback thailand style (positive only)!
Andy *******
@Nick ***************
lol... not the Thailand feedback I know .. usually it's just an avalanche of information, good and bad .. or is a drought and no feedback 😅😅
Howard *******
Everything has a 30% tax increase if imported but places like Amazon ship here now
Mike ********
@Howard ******
but you still have to pay ridiculous import duty which Amazon collects on the front end.
Howard *******
@Mike *******
it's been about 30% but worth it for specific items
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@Nick ***************
yes most stuff two to 3 weeks now
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@Howard ******
great thanks.
Nick ****************
@Howard ******
I bought through Amazon it took 4 months. That was 5 years ago. Have things improved?
Andy *******
@Nick ***************
I felt the same pain at times ... Forced me to buy inferior things off Lazada .. which I think was the plan .. stifle outside businesses
Mark ***********
Fitted sheets are difficult to find here. Goat cheese is over priced. So is peanut butter!
John **********
Research, research!!!

You will learn, good & bad things and something new!

Enjoy the adventure and the last frontier!
Dianne *****
If it is possible for you to rent out your property in Canada and not sell up, you could have an income stream and the option of returning home in a few years if you find that Thailand isn't for you. A lot of foreigners move to Thailand anticicipating that they are moving to paradise and will live here forever. Many are gone within 2 years. Even just coming for a year isn't really enough to know if it is right for you, you will still be in holiday mode and likely seeing things through rose coloured glasses/spectacles
Dianne *****
Bring some waterproof shoes for rainy season. No matter how much you try to protect your shoes/sandals, inevitably they will get wet and ruined if they are leather
Jo **********
get married to a Thai and get a visa based on marriage. many nice and sustainable Thai men available. be open minded
Suzanne ******
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@Jo *********
we are gay....no ty
Zun **********
Hope you can get some information in it, check it out !
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Martin *****
Importing your animals will be your first challenge
Abbas *****
Get yourself a Wise account . Great for transferring funds internationally. Takes a few minutes to sign up online.
กนกนุช *******
Don’t forget to look around in Cha-am.
Suzanne ******
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@กนกนุช ******
think i like it better then hua hin from watching videos...want quiet place
Diedy **********
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Dave **********
Best thing you can possibly do is go over there for a couple of weeks holiday and see for yourselves! You may not even like the place!
Kenny **********
Honestly since it seems that you are considering to live in Thailand for life I honestly has to say it's a bad idea. The reality is that Thailand is not a good option when your an expat and very old. There is a reason that 90% of all old people at some point return to their home countries, and it's simply because the health insurance is extremely expensive when you are 75 years old if you will even be allowed to get get it. I would seriously consider another country for permanent retirement. EU comes to mind.. Maybe Greece, Portugal, Croatia, Bulgaria, Spain or Turkey?.. I have lived in Thailand for close to 20 years and moved to EU as it's much better suited for retirement. And unlike what you might think it's approx the same overall cost of living when you include the visa, insurances and so on..
Ken ******
about flooding

avoid living near high risk flood areas

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Dean ********
Personally I would not bring anything apart from Pants, socks and a computer everything else I can get here. Even bedding is not a problem it’s just is expensive and don’t bring any towels as you can buy these in most places at different price points. Even the Lotus most expensive towels are cheap and quite good quality if you choose the correct ones. I did not bring my Amazon Alexa as the web site said it is not compatible. I now regret selling my 3 devices as my friends use them in Thailand without any issues. Good luck.

Checkout my channel for more about Hua Hin.

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Marc *********
Anything you can buy in canada you can buy here… top things i brought that i can find in Thailand without paying a huge premium. Deodorant, blue hard gel type or similar… they just don’t sell it here, it’s the rollers with liquid gel in them and it’s horrible. Bought a 12 pack at Costco before coming. Same goes for razors, for men feels like they got 2 kinds and that’s it. I like the premium throwaways from Costco… bought like 24+ in a pack.

Sheets, towels, you can buy at Home Pro (patrick morin if you seen them in qc) and thai watsadu (home depot / reno depot) … as for importing your pets use pettravel.com, buy the information package for dogs and cats to export to Thailand… really worth the price, did it myself was super easy and saved me a lot versus using the services in canada 🇨🇦 (like thousands )
Suzanne ******
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@Marc ********
this site is blocked
Marc *********
@Suzanne ******
it’s still the best, you select your country of origin and where you are going and it gives you step by step what to do and all the documents needed. It’s blocked for me also in thailand, they are using probably cloudflare or something… you just need a vpn
Marc *********
If youre in canada and its blocked use your cellphone on data instead of your house wifi, should be easy in america
Christine *******
I don't see many women jumping in with advice, so allow me...If any of your body parts are NOT Asian-sized (and by that I mean teeny tiny), then you should bring large quantities of bras, cotton underwear (impossible to find here unless you like granny panties), and SHOES. Shoe shops here do not sell women's shoes above a size 8 U.S.! Thank God for Lazada, One can order Birkenstock sandals from China, but the odds are about
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on whether they're authentic or knock-offs. Besides all that, make sure you have your visa situation locked down, as well as housing that allows pets, because that's difficult to find here. Keep your cats indoors because they won't have immunities to the viruses here, along with all the other dangers like soi dogs, snakes, and motorbikes/cars. Hua Hin is a good "starter city." I think you'll love it!
J ****************
@Christine ******
what viruses are you talking about? Vets here can do the usual vaccinations for pets.
Christine *******
@J ***************
I'm not an expert on cat viruses, but every so often I hear of viruses taking out stray cat populations, so that's what I'm going off of. Obviously, vets can do the usual vaccinations here, but I don't know why anyone would risk their pet cat comingling with the large stray populations.
Dianne *****
@Christine ******
FIV (cat AIDS) and FelV (viral and transmissable Leukaemia) is very common in the stray cat populations here. Stray cats mostly live very short lives. Cat parvo occurs frequently and wipes out large numbers of cats. And yes you can vaccinate against most of the cat illnesses, but there are some that the vaccines aren't effective against
Nick ****************
@Christine ******
can I also add to that for men bring larger size condoms. Most shops here only sell up to 55 whilst most western men need at least 57.
Brooke ******
@Nick ***************
some people,’s minds are in the gutter.
Julie *****
@Nick ***************
with that kind of comment I would have thought the smaller size would suit a small minded person like you. Really not needed for the question asked!
Ken ******
visa condition for foreigners probably on the verge of tightening, see:

stickmanbangkokpost.com and integrity legal youtuber
Ken ******
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Ken ******
some of the cons:

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Ken ******
it is quite expensive to buy things in big department stores especially foreign goods with sales tax of 7 % in general and import tax. Try internet shopping at LAZADA or Shoppe. can find most you need and very much cheaper
Ken ******
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Ken ******
do google search on internet on: air quality and tap water, public road safety safety and big flood problem. canada excel at those aspects. Only a few condo units allow pets.
Robert *******
Hope all goes well!
Leslie *********
Hi seen your post we have helped this Lady make a decision and she is selling up and moving to Thailand. She has done a lot of research her channel is worth a look.

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James *********
I miss my 35 year old Vitamix 😫
Guido **********
hua hin is nice .. I have as well a pool villa there but rented out
Bob **********
You can buy flat sheets here a bit expensive and I would bring a couple good bath towels most everything else you can buy here especially electronics as were 220 over here so a lot of stuff blows up 🤣🤣🤣
Michael ********
Relo4paws for pets please keep cats indoors they destroy native wildlife
Marc *********
@Michael *******
explain what cats destroy
Michael ********
@Marc ********
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Michael ********
@Marc ********
birds snakes lizards large insects. You really dont know
Man *****
Come to huahin on holiday and find accommodations for you and your animals. Do your research how to move your animals . Sell and leave everything in Canada cos you will be able to get everything here you need. Otherwise don't worry about anything. I guess you have solved your visa requirements. If you are planning to move to the countryside you can pm me
John ********
I would not recommend anyone to sale everything you have yet until you have been to Thailand for a few months or more
Michael ******
If both of you are over 50, I'd start with applying for a retirement visa (Nonimmigrant O-A) in your home country! Then come over here and do the rest step by step! It's not too hard! Best of luck! 🍀🤗👍
Koh ******************
Koh Lanta Krabi is waiting for welcome you guys.
James **************
U can buy almost anything here, so travel light. They love dogs here, plenty of vets and animal hospitals and cat cafés etc. Even a special dog walking zone in bkk Park!

Hua Hin is a nice spot I guess. You'll need
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0 bhat in Thai bank, u should be able to apply from embassy fir Non O or Non A visa for retirement. Non O easier. Or you can do in Thailand. Or u can use agency....
Dianne *****
@James *************
they are Canadian, they don't need to open a Thai bank account or bring a single dollar/baht into Thailand. Their embassy will sign a verification of their funds in Canada
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@Dianne ****
dunno about that. If that's true its a specific rule for Canadians. The fact is that to retire here you need to follow that protocol. As specified by the Thai immigration.
James **************
Or use an agent at a cost - 25 - 35k bhat....
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@Aja ******
it's a bit complicated - you will need to open a bank account here in your name only and deposit
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0 bhat. That will hv to season for 2 months before and 3 months after your application for visa. Or you may be able to apply before, but to proceed you will need the $ seasoned for those time periods. Outside that it can drop to
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0+ . Yes accounts individual only
Aja *******
@James *************
800,000 baht per person.
VaiAna **********
Point blank go to Thailand first , visit surrounding areas , educate and talk to expats while you're there , Google online , do some research , talk to visa agents , open up a bank account while you're there , so much to do before uprooting yourself and moving to a foreign country .
Andy ******
Don't bring electric stuff from Canada it's the wrong voltage ,anyway electrical items fairly cheap in Thailand,bring cheese and Salami vacuum packed ,it's expensive here
AliJames *****
If you're going to live here then learn the language and try to learn more about and respect the culture
Terary **********
You've started in a pretty good place. This group has a lot of people well informed of the process and are happy to help. This group also have several trolls - you can safely ignore them.

I have yet to find flat sheets any where in SE Asia. So if you need those bring them with you.

Opening a bank account here would likely be done when you get here. It will require a letter from Immigration and a friendly bank manager. You will likely ask this group for a recommendation. Also, the banks work differently here than in the US (and I imagine Canada). When you open a bank account you establish a relationship with that branch. When you need stuff from that bank (paperwork) you will have to go to that branch you will not be able to go to another branch of the same bank. If you open an account in HuaHin and decide to do immigration paperwork somewhere else that requires bank paperwork you will have yourself a complication.

I have not yet done a retirement visa so I have no experience but my buddy says that it works out better if you get your retirement visa here. Visa obtained in the US have insurance requirements while visas obtain in-country do not have those requirements.

North American electronics work here as normal. You can buy plug adapters here, cheap, so no concerns there.

I hear good things about Hua Hin, many people choose to retire there, having an expat community will be beneficial.

Sell everything and move from Canada. I cam from the US and I did the same thing. I am not sure I recommend it 100%. It worked out for me but you may want to visit Thailand to make sure you will be comfortable here.

I find the visa process to be a pain but worth it. Most interactions with immigration require bunches of paperwork and wait time at the immigration office. Each immigration office is different so maybe Hua Hin will be better.

If you have the money I would recommend touring around Thailand before committing to one place. Other popular destinations Phuket (beautiful but bunches of tourists), Chang Mai (beautiful and cooler but they have a burn season), Koh Samui (beautiful but it's an island), Koh Tao (beautiful but it's small island and hard to get to)

Welcome to Thailand.
Kool *******
@Terary *********
you are misinformed about a few things. They are from Canada so referencing the US means nothing. North American electronics run on 110 volts at 60 hrz. Thailand is 220 volts, and 50hrz, so if your electronics are not rated for 220 volts they will be fried. I get my visa extension paperwork from the main branch of my Thai bank, not the branch I signed up at, and they sent me to the main office. It is now extremely difficult to get a Thai bank account on a tourist visa. Some Thai embassies in some countries require insurance on a type O visa, but not all. Insurance is required on a Type OA, or OX retirement visa.
Terary **********
@Kool ******
Funny all my 110v work perfectly fine in Thailand.. I think its a larger concern for antiquated electronics. Even my cheap electric shaver (110v - 220v) work perfectly fine.

Yippie for you and your bank account. But that has not been my experience. Either way its worth pointing out so they can plan accordingly.. Your comment would be useful if you told them how to do that.... My guess useful was not the intention of your comment?
Alan **********
Start visa are you over 50 so you can get retirement visa ? You have to get pet passports for the dogs and cat ,(have you spent enough time in thailand to be shore you wont to live there ,you do realise your uk state pensions will be frozen living in thailand ,my advice would be if you have property in uk rent it out for extra income it will go up in value,better than in thailand ,if you bring money into thailand get the paperwork so you can get it out if you ever want to go back , and of course you will need private health care .good luck
Sandie ********
@Alan *********
hi I think they said they were from Canada
Suzanne ******
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Yes Canadian
Sandie ********
Good advice though 🙂
Alan **********
@Sandie *******
ok LOL it’s such a small world
KT *********
visa is the first thing to take care, if ones age is 50 then it is quite simple for a retirement visa here in Thailand, any other issues are not much of a problem at all.
Zac ********
I would recommend coming on a short trip first and sorting out your accommodation, bank accounts etc, this will make it so much easier in the long run. I would also limit the amount of stuff you bring, we brought far too much stuff that is still in boxes almost 8 years later.
James ***********
As a fellow Canadian having spent 23 years coming to Thailand, I would recommend the six months and six months option. The advantages of no winter weather on the one side and no torrential rains and air qualty (for the most part) on the other side. One condo or rental in Chiang Mai/Hua Hin and one in the Okanagan works great. Then there's the critical issue of health care, with
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you won't loose your provincial health coverage(at least in BC) and have to wait the 3 months to reapply. Tough to beat free, complete healthcare (depending on your income level). If you are not aware, CPP and OAS are paid regardless of how long you are out of the country, only the GIS (supplement) is not paid after being gone for 6 months. All that said, "try before you buy" is paramount...
Lance *********
All the best ladies - welcome to Thailand !
Rob **********
Your only issue is getting the right visa. The rest is nothing.
Suzanne ******
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Jon ********
Cat and dog lovers abound on Koh Lanta. There's a big animal welfare charity here too. Big island with Swedish expats and good restaurants bars and people. It's my favourite place in Thailand.
Rob **********
@Jon *******
if you love the smell of cannabis everywhere it might be ok. I personally think it’s one of the worst islands in Thailand, and we have friends who live there, who now think the same and are trying to sell up.
Dianne *****
@Rob *********
smell of cannabis everywhere in Thailand
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@Dianne ****
definitely not in Cha-am and I have been here for many years.
Jon ********
@Rob *********
I've only seen 2 shops on the whole island and never seen smokers out, there all drinkers that I know. Strange to judge an entire island and the life here on a herb😅
Rob **********
@Jon *******
we were last there only 4 months ago to visit our friends, it was everywhere, the smell coming out of the bars etc, even seen a fair few people smoking their joints walking along the beach it was everywhere.
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@Rob *********
and problem is what?
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@Sara *****
as I said if you like the smell of cannabis and drugs everywhere up to you. I don’t do it and I don’t like it so that is why.
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@Rob *********
good to know, i’ll never go there… fcuking cannabis 🤬🤬🤬
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Jo ****
You've no doubt heard the saying "try before you buy". Thailand ain't paradise!!
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paradise is what suits the individuals we all have different opinions
Christopher *******
@Jo ***
the whole of the earth is paradise
Jo ****
Christopher David.Some would say it's HELL.
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Max ********
Whilst most responses focus on your visa, requirements - as it should for a relax stay, your two dogs need good planning n a considerable budget for shipping. Finding houses or apartments in Thailand allowing keeping dogs, especially if the larger types, can be a challenge. Probably easier to first move,, or try staying here for few months, and next organise your dogs. On what to bring? . Indeed almost everything you need can be found in Thailand or ordered online, yet I personally appreciate to have some personal items, family stuff n art with me on my over 35 years in Asia. Renting a house long term without your personal stuff will often remain feeling like 'it's temporary' and lacks a bit of warmth. But that's only my opinion of course. Others do great with just a suitcase and 'a waterhole around the corner'😊.
Brian *******
One more thing about the dogs here is a link to Tina Maria page she is the founder of Bodi Dog rescue here in Phuket and I'm

sure she can give you some good advice on your dogs

All the best
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Alistair **********
I'd recommend either one of you coming over first and sorting things out before trying to bring pets over and do everything in one trip.

Some seem to say dogs have issues here with ticks, but my dogs haven't had issues, also family who brought dogs over didn't have issues. Monthly flea and tick treatment works fine
Chris *******
Housing will be a bit of work with animals, may cost more for rentals.

Most rentals are not pet friendly.

Cautionary tale with animals.

Friends brought 2 dogs and one got bitten by a tick and passed away very quickly. They were here only about a month or so, even with the flea and tick meds, shots from home. The exotic blood parasites were too much for it.

We have 2 cats from Canada and they are strictly indoor.

Vet care is extremely affordable here.

Have you done recon trips already?

If you are planning a permanent move over you will need to consider things like:

Maintaining residency for tax purposes in Canada or going non resident

Keeping phone numbers

Mail

Longterm cell plans

Banking

Credit cards

Two options for Canadians:

One is to transfer 800k

Other is embassy income letter

800k is the simplest if you can afford it.

Top sheets are really not a thing here.

Bringing linens from home a good idea.

Most electronics are comparable here if not cheaper in most cases.

Travel as lite as possible.

Lots of tips and tricks to get by here.

You will start with a 90 non-o e-visa based on retirement.

Relatively easy to qualify for.

NOT an OA which requires health Insurance and background checks.

Once you receive the e-visa you will have 90 days to enter the country and receive 90 days.

Yes a recon trip is a great idea.

We did the same 2 years ago

6 suitcases and 2 cats.

Hua Hin is great if you want to be near BKK.

Depends on your needs and wants.

By most accounts kinda of a sleepy expat area.
Nick ****************
Just think most of your electrical products and household wares are made in China, Japan, Vietnam, Malaysia and Thailand. Just buy new here. About 25% of the price you buy at home.
Paul ********
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Err. . .true for some low cost commodity electronics, but the more sophisticated stuff can be more expensive here.
Christopher *******
@Paul *******
many electronics are more expensive here
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@Christopher ******
Thanks for the attempted correction, I guess.

But what part of my statement above, “. . . the more sophisticated stuff can be more expensive here” do you fail to understand?”
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@Paul *******
some stuff can be harder to find here. Rocketry components aren't very sophisticated but they aren't common here and demand a higher price
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@Christopher ******
I imagine if you were building a rocket here you would not get a work permit as it’s a job reserved for Thai nationals !!
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Brian *******
Yes just bring a suitcase everything is here you will need at good prices .Enjoy the adventure your going to love it 😀
Kylie ********
Almost everything you can buy online on Lazada. It is like Thailand’s version of Amazon, but cheaper.
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What are you after for example?
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@Kylie *******
I couldn't find many things I needed. Quality is also poor and really difficult to return.
Jay **********
IMO - Have you ever been to Thailand before? I suggest before selling everything first you stay for 2-3 months and live like you would if you were planning on living there and see if the life, other than a holiday, is what you expect it to be. 2 vastly different lifestyles from being on holiday to actually living in a town.
Christopher *******
@Jay *********
if she's coming from Canada anything is better than that
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@Christopher ******
I would submit the USA would be a worse choice than Canada.
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@Paul *******
To each their own i guess. I'd much prefer to live in the US than Canada. Better weather, lower taxes, more freedom, better cost of living. I don't see any advantages to Canada.
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@Jay *********
Nah. I spent a year selling everything and studying youtube videos carefully.

Came here sight unseen nearly four years ago.

My only regret? Not doing it sooner.

Admittedly, I grew up in the mideast and traveled extensively throughout my working years. But I never visited any SE Asia country before moving here permanently.
Jo **********
i don’t understand the comment about the sheets this surreal
Frank **********
@Jo *********
I know right. Sheets should be the least of worries. Lol
Jo **********
@Frank *********
or toenail clippers
Jo **********
@Frank *********
the next worry will be toothbrushes
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@Jo *********
I think they mean it’s hard to find 100% cotton with high thread count, also hard to find the top sheet. Most sets are bottom sheet and duvet.
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@Bruce ************
Central department stores have individual top sheets. I would say that proper down pillows are extraordinarily expensive here.

High thread count is available here. But Thais like thin, soft sheets. If your tastes run to stiff percale, that can harder to find here.
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@Paul *******
noted 👌
Graham ******
If you haven't been to Thailand before come without the animals first and find out where you will want to live, a lot easier to travel around without the animals, add Koh Chang to your list of places to visit. You can use visa agent to open bank account when here as well. Electric is 240 v so electric don't bring. When Rent a house you may need to build a fence to keep animals in and strays out not many properties are well feñced. Good luck with your future
Paul ********
@Graham *****
Agree that the animals (especially multiples) can be a significant problem when traveling inside Thailand. Especially if you are thinking the extensive transportation infrastructure means you can avoid buying or renting a car. If you DO plan to drive a car, be sure to get an international drivers license BEFORE leaving Canada.

Only disagreement is about electric stuff. Check the labels and you’ll find that many/most items sold in Canada are
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VAC,
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Hz. These will all work just fine in Thailand.
Kal *********
One thing I know about Thailand ... Thailand has everything u want , you just need to look at the right places, imported items may cost a bit more but it's all here ... it might even be cheaper since u don't pay that much taxes on most items here .:. Buy it when u need it , don't need to bring anything

Except money
Deanna *******
8 years ago, we sold everything left the US with nothing but 2 backpacks. Been here ever since. Our only regret? Not having done it sooner!

If you're not 50 or over, a long term visa will be a challenge. If you're 50 and up, you can apply for a retirement visa. You'll need 800,000 baht each in a Thai bank account, I believe insurance, and lots of paperwork! Best advice is to visit a Thai embassy in Canada and speak to them about options. Good luck!
Suzanne ******
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@Deanna ******
we are over 50
John *************
Just come and try different places before you decide. Perhaps leave things in Canada or sell all and if you need something buy it again later. Have to come here to see prices.
Steffen ********
I had a hard time finding a waffle maker in Uttaradit. Bring one of those, better two…
Mike ******
Bring your teeth brush...
Pauline *******
Good quality bedding and towels are expensive here. I always bring them back when I visit home. Good quality swimwear is also worth bringing with you.
Mike ******
Full bedding very nice.plus 4 towels..1000bt
Pauline *******
@Mike *****
I'm afraid not the quality I'm after.
Mike ******
@Pauline ******
take your ideas back home..this is Thailand..
Pauline *******
@Mike *****
😂😂😂 I'll struggle on. I can't believe how triggered people get over bedding!!! The ladies asked advice and pointers , I gave my bit of advice, you have your opinion and that's fine. If we were all the same the world would be a very boring place.
Mike ******
@Pauline ******
you do not live in Thailand..go home..cheers..
Pauline *******
@Mike *****
and you know this how? Christ on a bicycle 🙄
Mike ******
And I live in thailand for 17 years
Mike ******
@Pauline ******
no but my wife is immigration officer
Pauline *******
@Mike *****
happy for you
Mike ******
Thank you
Mike ******
@Pauline ******
it will not be happy for you
Pauline *******
@Mike *****
good to know
Mike ******
Go back home and ask..????
Mike ******
@Pauline ******
I buy from Central mall very nice and soft to the body
Mike ******
You do not live in Thailand
Mike ******
The towels are great also
Mike ******
@Pauline ******
my Thai wife buy for 20 pounds..do you live in thailand
Pauline *******
Greg *********
Get 1 year visa and rent a place for 1 year.dont stress on what you need to bring.just bring yourself and animals.get an agent to help with visa and bank accounts. Life's to short to worry about that.chaing mai is popular
Deanna *******
@Greg ********
Good advice, but our friends who live in Chiang Mai have to leave during burning season. :/
Greg *********
@Deanna ******
yes that's true.
Peter ************
Not sure if you have been to thailand before….if not then plan a short visit and travel to certain areas to get a feel for the different places and people….you will find that thailand stocks pretty much the same stuff you have in Canada….sheets,electronics and so much more…speak to people in thailand,ex pats,visa people etc…..then make your move….good luck,thailand is fabulous!
Jib ***********
Start from your country by submitting papers for Non-O or Non-OA based on Retired and Living in Thailand at Thai Embassy.
Cary ******
Not assuming anything about your finances but if they’re very good you might consider the LTR visa for wealthy individuals rather than the retirement visa.
Suzanne ******
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@Cary *****
looked into that ..but no wanting retirement visa eventually will apply for residency after years there
Graeme *******
Your dogs will adjust just fine, have many friends who have brought thoer dogs over, just make sure to put them on tik medicine day one.

The only thing you need to bring is Kraft peanut butter, everything else is available here.

Good luck on your journey, sure you will absolutely love it here.
Dianne *****
@Graeme ******
I'm pretty sure I have seen Kraft peant butter in Tops
Graeme *******
@Dianne ****
definitely not kraft.. Skippy and Jiffy yes but not kraft.
Graeme *******
@Suzanne ******
will be impossible to get residency unless you have work permit and have been working for a number if years here. It is very difficult to get.
Kool *******
Apply for type O retirement visas before you leave Canada. It makes it much easier once you get here. It gives you a 90 day retirement visa, which gives you time to open your bank accounts (both of you will need separate bank accounts) and the two months the bt800,000 has to be there before you can apply for your one year extension. It is very easy to open your needed bank account with the retirement visa, and almost impossible on a tourist visa. Keep this in mind.
John **********
@Kool ******
they don't need to worry about bank accounts in the first instance, the Canadian embassy still provides income affidavits.
Kool *******
@John *********
income yes, but not savings. You assume they have a steady pension income that meets the financial requirements for both of them.
Suzanne ******
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@Kool ******
one of us has steady pension, other does not but has the funds
Muly ********
ÍSorry but it is not a good advice.

The "o" Visa that you get outside Thailand is not the same as the "o" Visa that you get here in Thailand.
Kool *******
@Muly *******
actually it is the same. The first time you get it inside Thailand it is for only 90 days, then you apply for your one year extension. Getting the type O based on retirement in your home country is the exact same type O visa. The only difference is you can only apply for the one year extension inside Thailand after you get here. It is the same visa.
Andy *******
@Kool ******
no, there are some big differences, if applying inside Thailand you don't require insurance, if applying through embassy outside of Thailand you need insurance and more documents. Applying when you are here already is much easier, you get the 3 month visa for application that allows you time to organise stuff, then go onto the 12 month visa, much easier because the insurance requirements have become a hassle for many people and can be avoided
Dianne *****
@Andy ******
I think you are confusing the 12 month Non immigrant OA (often refered to as a retirement visa) which can only be obtained in your own country with medical certificate, police check, and health insurance for the entire duration of the visa. The non O is a 3 month visa which can be obtained in your own country if you are over 50 years of age. It is exactly the same as the non O that you can get at an immigration office in Thailand based on being over 50 years old. It can be extended for for 12 months once in Thailand if you meet the financial requirements. It is also significantly cheaper than the "retirement" visa (non immigrant OA) and does not require all of the paperwork of the OA
Derek ***********
@Dianne ****
Oh wow - I was not aware of that at all. Can you share the details on obtaining the non O at the immigration office in Thailand?
Andy *******
@Dianne ****
umm ... Basically that's what I said .. I said doing it in Thailand is easier, less documentation and no insurance .. it's the visa I have, and I get yearly extension... Doing it in Australia would have been substantially more difficult... Where you meaning me in your reply, or maybe someone else 😅😅
Thomas ************
Do your research and enjoy your life to the fullest in Thailand. Hua Hin is a great place and good location
Brian **********
Leave everything in Canada and move with a suitcase. Everything is available at fair prices and the cost of shipping and customs is exorbitant. Enjoy the experience.
Bobby *******
@Brian *********
exactly. Worrying about sheets will be the last of their problems. Don’t think they have ever been expats anywhere based on the opening post
Giorgio ******
what is this story about sheets ?
Jorge *****
Shit! There are not sheets!
Giorgio ******
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Giorgio ******
@Jorge ****
:::: PLA ? you are not fish ....
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Raymond ***********
@Giorgio *****
Lazada or Shopee..true hard to buy top sheets...sell with duvet as most sleep with aircon
Dan ********
@Raymond **********
top sheet ? You mean comforter, or blanket ? They sell bundles in Tesco, big c, Lazada etc. Often sold with or without the comforter. But individual fitted sheets are expensive. As are men's pants I've noticed. Like 120baht upwards. £3.00gbp for a piece of fabric in the country it's probably manufactured. Cheaper in London.
Dan ********
But yes, bigger things to worry about right now ..
Giorgio ******
@Dan *******
just answering .
Wayne *********
@Giorgio *****
they obviously enjoy a fitted sheet and flat sheets with pillow slips package where thai are only a flat sheet
Giorgio ******
@Wayne ********
I buy full sets in Thailand .no problem
Wayne *********
@Giorgio *****
most shops don't have 4 piece sets really got to hunt for them then they are expensive. I bring my sets from Australia as they are cheaper
Dan ********
@Wayne ********
can get them in Tesco, big c and Lazada for 500-700 baht for a 5 piece set. That's cheap compare to London.
Wayne *********
Wayne *********
@Dan *******
yep but only 1 sheet is in the 5 piece
Dan ********
@Wayne ********
oh, two pillow, two bolster I never use and bin them. And one sheet. Yes I did notice that. There must be lots of mismatched bedding in Thailand. idiots.
Wayne *********
@Dan *******
correct so I bring my sets for my beds in Thailand from Australia no waste then
Giorgio ******
@Wayne ********
why not . you're free . no problem
Jack ****************
Come and stay a while first. Stay 6 months in the south and 6 months in the north. Then decide.
Jack ****************
@Giorgio *****
where do you shop?
Giorgio ******
@Jack ***************
carrefour in C.M have 5 pieces set .
Jack ****************
@Giorgio *****
must be a boutique that caters to farang
Dan ********
@Jack ***************
maybe they have knives in the cutlery sets, give way to traffic approaching from the right at roundabouts, rather than stopping on the actual roundabout blocking ALL traffic, and when they hand signal to call you to them, it's the same as the rest of the universe, not the complete opposite, which actually means "go away" to every other human being. I don't know, just maybe.
Jack ****************
Frank **********
@Dan *******
what are you talking about. You sound like VP Kamala Harris 5555.
Larry ***********
@Frank *********
sounds like you confused Harris with Pence and his fav buddy TD
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Frank **********
@Larry **********
Harris is an idiot who barely makes sense when she talks.
Larry ***********
@Frank *********
and I guess TD and Pence do. Pence is scared of TD and the courts in the US can't find enough dates on their calendars for TD. I feel sorry for all Americans as your legal system is dysfunctional and I would not feel safe in your country and that is no laughing matter
Larry ***********
Giorgio ******
@Jack ***************
sorry mister long . Carrefour , now BIG C.is not a boutique . it's a big supermarket . like Tesco / Lotus . most customers are thai , but farang can also attend . sorry if you don't have these shops in your area doesn't mean they don't exist
Jack ****************
@Giorgio *****
perhaps, due to local demographics, the Chiang Mai location by you carries a modified inventory.
Giorgio ******
@Jack ***************
as you say : perhaps . maybe.
Dan ********
@Giorgio *****
Big C is/was carrefour ? I never knew...
Giorgio ******
@Dan *******
now you know . never too late .. in France it's Casino
Cary ******
@Giorgio *****
cheap sheet quality and usually can only get a fitted sheet with no top sheet like westerners are comfortable with.
Neil ******
@Cary *****
Central sells Santas Home sheets. Really quality stuff. Very soft. People who say there are no quality sheets haven’t looked.
Giorgio ******
@Neil *****
you're absolutely right .people are always cheap . they don't understand you have to pay the price for quality
Lincoln *******
@Giorgio *****
100% they go and buy some cheap polyester/cotton 200 thread count for 300 baht and then wonder why it feels like crap on their bed
Leah ***********
@Lincoln ******
that stuff beads and feels awful on your skin
Mitchell *******
Yes. That was one of the more weird finds for me. And she INSISTED it had one.
Giorgio ******
@Cary *****
I buy full sets in Thailand . no problem. even buy sometimes to bring back in Europe , when I like the design
John **********
As Canadians you don't need to deposit money in a Thai bank account, you can go to your embassy in Bangkok and get an income affidavit.
Av **********
You depositing cash makes it sound so easy like ur gonna hop off the plan and open an account. I'd worry about all your visa, bank accounts and housing before talking nonsense about not having this or that here lol

U make it sound so simple...I'm glad u think that way :)

Been here 30 years, one major thing I learned is don't bring dogs here. They will get tiks, they will get diseases from other dogs, you will have to have a full 8 foot wall around your house as you cannot let ur dog even for 1 second mix with local dogs...it is very difficult to keep a foriegn dog alive and well here. Also not to mention ur moving to thialans the first time and ur gonna have to live in a house.....living in a house right off the plane without speaking Thai isn't suggested unless ur in the most upscale village
Andy ******
@Av *********
very negative comments ,they are looking for positive comments I think ,maybe I agree about the dogs ,my two dogs were adopted by me and my Thai wife in Phuket so not sure how foreign dogs would match in with Thailand dogs.
Andy ******
@Av *********
extremely well put ladies take note
Zac ********
@Av *********
what a load of rubbish, i brought my dog and cat here, the dog was 12 when we moved here and lived until he was 17, never had any problems with soi dogs or diseases, he died of old age, my cat is now 10 and is in good health.
Av **********
@Zac *******
good for u my friend. ;) I'm glad ur old pussy is doing do well :)
Jeff *******
@Zac *******
about to import my 3 cats, good to hear this I was concerned.
Av **********
@Jeff ******
cats r cool as they r indoor it's the dogs that are the issue. U have to check them daily for tics because of the tropics and all the soi dogs are full of random fleas and diseases. That's the issue not the cats
Zac ********
@Av *********
my cat isn't an indoor cat, he is free to roam where he wants but since he had the chop he doesn't roam far. You can treat your pets for ticks, it's not that expensive and it is pretty effective.
Christopher *******
@Av *********
this is utter nonsense. I brought many dogs here from Canada they are friendly with all the neighborhood dogs, they are in good health and we don't have them in an 8 foot fenced off yard
Jeffrey **********
@Av *********
absolutely no issue with my 3 dogs
Av **********
@Jeffrey *********
good for u, our family members have had issues, so as neighbors...we currently have a basically mentally challenged old English sheep dog now we have to care for from the tik disease he got here......also my husband had his arm dislocated trying to remove soi dogs off of our dog's neck...took 2 years for him to write agaun
Harris **********
@Av *********
maybe you should have taken more notice and always looked for ticks, have your dog protected against ticks, human error poor dog 🐕
Suzanne ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jeffrey *********
i ignore negative comments
Alex *******
@Suzanne ******
ignoring people's advice you asked for...not very wise .why not just do it all yourself..why ask for pointers if you've made your mind up...

What do you want...OK...ITS ALL ROSES HERE AND NO PROBLEMS AT ALL...EASY PEASY......my point is if you listen to the negative remarks if armours you for reality...
Sara ******
@Suzanne ******
hmm, how to say this, (english is not my strong skill), negative comments don't necessarily be negative, they try to give you example what do you to expect. So you should read negative comments like you take there only tips, not negative parts. You know what I try to mean? 😊 I had my dog in Thailand one year and you need to be extra careful (depend area) because of stray dogs, snakes, people poisoning dogs, you need to give medication every month because of ticks and heart worms etc. I suggest house with wall because of stray dogs and (depend area) monitor lizard's. My dog is my family, I don't leave my dog behind so that kind of comments are just stupid, ignore those.

I give you tips what to bring and what not necessarily, my own experience of course. Dogs, women things, health, etc. And useful groups. Just send pm if you want 👌
Bobby *******
@Av *********
totally agree about the dogs
Gordon ************
You’re too young for Hua Hin, the average expat age there is 104 😂😂😂
Suzanne ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Gordon ***********
we are both in our early 50s...

Dont like big citys

Clubs

We like beaches, live music, music, dancing in our kitchen to 80s music, drinking, kayaking, hiking
Terry ********
@Suzanne ******
depending on what you want to spend, Cha Am is Much cheaper and only a 20 minute drive from HH. I lived there for 12 years and loved it.
Suzanne ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Terry *******
soynds great we want small town living and a place to buy fresh food, and local dining. And access to train or plane to go see other areas. What about AO NANG?
Terry ********
@Suzanne ******
well, I can’t speak to AO NANG, but Cha Am has the train and very close to the growing HH airport.

Beach is clean and very quiet during the weekdays
Luc ************
@Suzanne ******
next to HH is Cha Am. Take a look there.
Gordon ************
@Suzanne ******
Koh Samui
Lincoln *******
@Suzanne ******
hua hin's beaches aren't the best, have you considered an island?
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