You can only use the income method if you are applying for the visa outside of Thailand.. because the British embassy here no longer certifies income to support visa applications.. if you are already in Thailand and want to apply for a non-o immigrant visa based on marriage.. then you must use the capital method of 400k baht deposited to a Thai Bank account in your name.. and ensure it is seasoned for 2-months before applying for the 12-month extension.. however you can switch to the income method at the next renewal.. which is technically an extension rather than a renewal.. this is subject to evidencing the requisite monthly income being deposited to your Thai bank account every calendar month in the year preceding the extension.. this does not have to be deposited directly by your pension provider in the UK.. and in fact there is no requirement to prove it is a pension at all.. you can simply transfer a monthly sum from your UK bank account every month yourself.. and it doesn't matter if the transfers are being funded from accumulated savings or are from current income you may be receiving.. your bank book (or statements) together with a confirmatory letter from your Thai bank is all that is needed to satisfy the income threshold.. though the payments should be tagged as coming from overseas and not as payments from another Thai bank account (ie. internal transfers) to fulfill the requirements.. I've had to jump through all these hoops myself over the last couple of years.. so I'm speaking from my personal experience of the CM immigration system.. but as always everyone should always check with the immigration office nearest the location they will be residing to double check.. in case they have some additional requirements or there are other variations to the above mentioned procedure.

If you've already been in Thailand for 50 days.. and you have never filed a TM30.. then you can expect to be fined.. it is the responsibility of the hotel (or guesthouse) to do it and technically they are in breach.. but it is you that will have to pay the fine to regularise it.. it's an easy online process that costs nothing to do.. and you need the print out or screenshot to prove its been done.. you can do it yourself but would need your a copy of your Thai landord's NIC (front and back) and blue book (main page) to upload to the system.. which they may be reluctant to give you.. I'd ask them if they would assist you to do it yourself.. by sitting with you while you do it so they can watch you upload and then delete the documents.. which may make them more comfortable.. suggest you involve an English speaking Thai friend to communicate with them if their English is poor.. to explain the severity of the situation and to encourage them.. otherwise you need to find another place to stay with a more helpful landlord 😐

You can normally apply for the initial 90-day non-o visa without seasoning the funds.. meaning after you get it you must have funds deposited to a Thai bank account by day 30.. thereby giving it 60 days to season before returning for your 12-month extension.. at least that's how it worked for me with a non-o based on marriage in CM.. but you will need to check with your own immigration office to see if that process will work for you!

The problem i can see here.. is that the return flight was booked for 90-days time.. whereas the visa exempt stamp granted to tourists is only 60-days.. i understand he was pre-empting a 30-day extension.. but this (1) assumes the extension will be granted, and (2) indicates an aspiration to max out his stay.. in other words it looks like a pre-meditated attempt to abuse the system.. whereas most genuine tourists will enter on the 60-day exempt stamp and will have a flight out booked within that time frame.. any extension happens as an after thought when they are in country and conclude they'd like to stay a little longer.. often precipitated by events that have occurred during their initial stay.. meaning they had not 'planned' a 90-day stay at outset.. i think if your friend had booked a dummy flight that leaves at the end of his 60-day tourist stamp.. and showed that to mmigration on the pretext of only staying for 60-days.. then he may have had an easier time entering.. but being open about his intention suggested he was trying to abuse the system in their mind.. and if he was still grilled about a 60-day stay so soon after his last trip.. he could have said 'I've come back to begin the process of obtaining a retirement visa' so i can live here.. but once uttered he'd have to do it because that could be recorded on his immigration file.. in the end it's about being careful in the way you present yourself.. and though it was a genuine situation it didn't look like it because of the 90-day intent prior to entering Thailand.. if this hadn't been disclosed he may not have had such a hard time!

Surely the safe solution is to go and do it in person at the earliest opportunity.. meaning abandon the idea of an appointment and just go and queue up and get it done.. yes it may well mean you are there longer.. but it takes all the worry away from this dilemma.. and if you go early you may get done sooner than you think.. besides in my experience appointments are not rigid anyway and you often have to wait way beyond your allotted time to get seen!

The rule you have identified is more than likely the Embassy's way of avoiding an avalanche of premature applications.. meaning they only want you to apply if you are intending to travel within 3 months.. in essence prioritising their resource to the most urgent cases.. however the visa isn't granted on the condition that you do travel on the date you stated.. after all, situations change and people cannot always fulfil their intended schedule.. this rule simply deters people from applying too early and creating a back log of applications.

Our photos were printed on photo paper.. ie. glossy.. and they rejected them at CM immigration.. telling us to have them photo copied onto A4 paper.. so best check what your specific immigration office wants!

Please bear in mind that multiple vaccines in one batch (or close together) also represents a health risk.. so you should prepare for your wife to become ill soon after.. if you are intending to travel just after the jabs this could preclude her from flying.. either way I'd recommend you buy travel insurance that covers the cost of your flights if she falls ill and can't fly.. but you need to check that it will cover vaccine reactions.. since this is elective medication rather than remedial.. and anyone putting a needle in their arm should find out exactly what they are being injected with first.. since bad reactions come from ingredients your body can't handle!

If you work out the monthly equivalent by taking the 44,000 baht and dividing by 16 months you get 2,750 baht.. maybe there are some incidental expenses that add up to another 1,500 baht.. or perhaps that's the cost of your visa.. which would round it up to 3,000 baht monthly.. or are you saying it reads as 30,000 baht monthly?

@Florence ***********

In general, that is not how Thailand works.. visa's (or permissions of stay) are granted to each person individually.. and they rarely grant exceptions.. my non-o visa is dependent upon my wife.. we live in the same house and we will always live in the same house.. but she cannot do my 90-day report for me!