What are the steps and requirements for a NON-O married visa extension in Thailand?

Aug 11, 2023
a year ago
Ally ************
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Well i spent half a day at CM immigration yesterday knocking my non-o married visa extension application into shape.. my initial 90-day non-o expires 4-Sep so wanted to get in early and iron out any wrinkles.. was well prepared and thought i had my act together.. until i realised i hadn't printed the photos from my phone before going.. but wasnt a problem because got them sorted at the kiosk next to the TM30 hut at the back of the building.. and they accepted the 'pictures' printed on copy paper rather than photo paper which also saved some money.. however i did discover that a photocopy of the residence certificate from the local Amphur is not acceptable.. it must be an original, ie containing the official blue stamp of the Amphur, or immigration will reject it.. despite the fact they took the exact same original document from me just a couple of months ago.. yawn.. this document has a name I cant pronounce let alone write, but has the number 22 stamped in the corner.. so this meant visiting the Amphur to get some more originals (and numerous back-ups for the next few applications) and returning to immigration today.. at least the documentatuon had been thoroughly inspected and effectively pre-vetted ready for today.. and not by the volunteers that used to sit at tables at the front of the main building.. but by a team of immigration officials in a newly constructed kiosk which now sits in the same place.. we were told it would be fast-tracked upon returning today.. so no queuing up and waiting to be seen, just appear at the window and deposit the documents in the pre-agreed format into the basket for priority advancement into the building.. all looked to be working as advised today until the checker insisted i added photocopies of my earlier passport stamps to the batch.. the latest page showing the 90-day approval etc being insufficient for his liking.. contradictory to yesterday's advice but followed to the letter and eventually allowed to go inside to the 'family thai' booth.. again without waiting for queue number to be called.. they took and checked documentation on the spot.. and promptly informed me that black pen was unacceptable and the application form and other declarations had to be in blue ink.. having never been pulled up on this previously after several visits to immigration in the last 12-months i was surprised to find this suddenly enforced.. especially as the pre-checking had not identified this as an issue.. at least the officer did agree to transpose everything to a fresh form later if i was willing to sign it in blue now (fantastic) and apart from asking us where we met and how long ago, had no other queries.. when i asked about applying for the multiple entry 're-entry' permit (ie. 12-month permit) she told me i had to wait 1-month before i could do it, which seemed odd at first.. until she explained the first month is an 'under consideration' period and i had to return to get the full 12-month married visa stamped in my passport.. so they have only extended my current visa's expiry date by 1-month today.. although i was assured no queuing and no further payment was needed when i return on 4 October.. though i need to be available during the intervening period to take phone calls from immigration should they wish to query anything.. or indeed to make a home visit, although this wasn't mentioned specifically.. so all done for now and I'm in the home straight.. but sharing my experience here so other peeps can benefit from the knowledge i gained and maybe avoid some of my goofs.. so as to make their own process a little easier.. amen! Ps. They also put a note in my passport with the date my first '90-day' report falls due and explained i can do it up to 14-days early.. and indicated that i can do it online despite being my very first report of this kind.. which i immediately queried and sought clarification on.. so I'll have to wait and see if the system allows it when the time comes!
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The user shared their experience of applying for a NON-O married visa extension in Thailand, detailing the preparation needed and the challenges faced during the process. Key points include the necessity of original documents, specifically the residence certificate with an official blue stamp, and the acceptance of photocopies for certain items. The applicant highlighted the requirement for using blue ink instead of black on forms and offered insights into the timeline and procedures for visa extensions, including the 'under consideration' period for re-entry permits. Additionally, they emphasized the importance of keeping copies of all documents for future applications.
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Stephen **********
Terary **********
thank you
Kool *******
As an expat that has been doing this same visa extension for the last 8 years, as long as you save copies of everything, because for your next yearly extension they want to see the original, and then accept a copy for their paper records, so, save copies of everything, then, next year you only have to update your bank letters, and pass book copies, and all the pictures. I might add that after your yearly extension all your originals, including the pictures, are scanned into your file, so they see everything from the past. I learned this the hard way too. They don't do it on the first 90 day entry, because not very many continue to the yearly extension, and it's financial requirement. Everything else is exactly the same, unless you move, and you know what that involves, but everything else is the same. With an appointment you're in and out in under an hour. You'd really be surprised how many people don't make an appointment, and just get a queue number when they show up. It actually gets easier every year, as you see the same immigration agents in that department year after year, usually until the next round of promotions, that don't happen every year. And, thanks for this. It clearly explains what to expect at the different levels, because when it gets to the end person it is expected to be perfect.
Ally ************
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@Kool ******
Just to clarify.. the Korror 22 was issued by the Amphur when we registered our marriage.. which included the certified translation since it was outside of,essentiall Thailand and written in English.. but it also confirmed my residence in the marital home which is owned by my wife.. and was a key document in getting my 'yellow book' and the 'pink ID card'.. but immigration in CM made it clear that they would want an original Korror 22 attached to every future application (ie. extension) and a photocopy would not be acceptable.. but as we all know, the next officer appraising my documents may not see it as essential!
Kool *******
@Ally ***********
as I said, they always want to see the original, then they accept the copy for the paper trail. You can not just bring the copy. This hasn't changed in 8 years.
Ally ************
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@Kool ******
Well he wouldn't let me leave with the original today.. insisted one original and one copy were submitted.. ie. one of the 2 application packs had to contain an original.. so either i was unlucky to catch this particular IO or they have changed the rules more recently.. can only state what happened and how it was resolved ;)
Kool *******
@Ally ***********
yes, because it was your first 1 year extension. I'm talking about every year after this first time.
Ally ************
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@Kool ******
You are not reading my words my friend.. i was TOLD by the immigration officer that i need to include an original Korror 22 with the Amphur stamp on it EVERY time i make ANY application to immigration.. including my next annual extension.. and that document will not be returned to me.. so unless you have the power to override his decision and grant me an exception to the stated ruling.. i will choose to follow the directive from them.. it may work differently in other provinces of course.. but in CM this is the current requirement.. stating what has happened in the past does not mean it is currently the practice.. and you are misleading people by suggesting your view is factual.. especially when somebody else reports their experience on the day of attending immigration in person.. your insistance suggests that either you think i am mistaken and didn't understand what the IO said.. or that this was a rule they applied to me only and it will not apply to you or anyone else in the future.. the reality is that anyone making an application that demands production of a Korror 22 should take 1 original and 1 copy.. and should not expect to have the original returned to them.. irrespective of it being an initial application or their tenth application.. it's important to manage expectations here because they may need the original Korror 22 for another purpose.. and if they haven't already sourced multiple 'originals' it means another trip down to the Amphur.. better to plan for the worst scenario than to hope for the best!
Kool *******
@Ally ***********
okay, after 8 years of doing exactly that, and it never once changing, you must be right, and I must be wrong. You are finding out the hard way, so forget what my experience is trying to tell you, and learn the hard way again. Good luck.
Ally ************
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@Kool ******
Nothing to do with right or wrong my friend.. we are sharing experiences in this group to help educate people on the processes and protocols relating to immigration matters.. you've shared your prior experience as it related to you when you last interacted with immigration.. I've shared my experience, which was reported on the day i was at CM immigration, which was yesterday.. so I'm guessing more recent than your last interaction.. it just might be possible that they have changed the rules.. or at least their interpretation of them.. so people need to be aware of this in case it affects them.. a smooth application process rests on good preparation and these threads will help people prepare.. I'm not interested in being right because this is not my opinion versus yours.. it's what came out of the mouth of an IO only yesterday.. so that trumps both of us.. and if someone reports that they were treated differently next week then so be it.. it's about the application of rules today not last week or last year.. and that is an ever changing quagmire!
Kool *******
@Ally ***********
I have to sincerely apologize. I misread your location as CW instead of CM. I am truly sorry for my confusion.
Chris *******
The form from the Amphur is the koror 2 and can only be up to 6 months old.
เตเต้ ******
@Chris ******
thought a Khor ror 2 was a dated copy of your marriage registration. He’s talking about a photocopy of a residence certificate?
Chris *******
@เตเต้ *****
that would not be from the amphur.. so wires crossed a bit.

The koror 2 is the required document from the amphur.
เตเต้ ******
Ok so I had to dig deeper into this just because I’m building knowledge re marriage and kids here 😂.

The 22 he saw stamped is from a koror 22 that is a registration form used to certify a Thai marriage outside of Thailand to a Thai national. The koror 2 is the fancy marriage certificate and the koror 3 is the marriage registration. Kor ror 11, again I’m just building my “database” here 😂, is a certification that acknowledges a newborn outside of marrige so I’m assuming this would be filed after a child legitimization was completed by the courts.

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Brandon ************
All looks correct. We warn people about blue ink often. For some reason they are deathly afraid that your signature is a photocopy instead of an original because it's in black?? But at least they gave you a decent workaround.

And good on them for informing you about how the re-entry permit could interact with your under consideration period and save you some money.

We often have people ask if they can wait until the last day to apply for their extension but your story shows how risky that can be we with requirements ever changing and even adding a new one the next day you return.
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