@Luit ****************

that is exactly what I said. Those that have DTVs are under the rules when they originally got it. The rules don't change for them, as they paid for a five year visa, and Thailand isn't known for refunding money. Another example is the original Elite Visa. It was originally bt1,000,000 and it was for life. Because of that they never eliminated it, even though it lost money until covid hit. Now it has a 20 year max, but there are still original Elite Visa holders, about 1200 of them, as Thaksin, who started the program, gave away 1000 of them to his friends, mostly Chinese.

@Dany *******

the rules do not change once you have the DTV. They can after your five years, but no changes directly affect you until your five years expires. This is how Thailand operates. They make changes based on the abuses they see happening, and then make changes to address those abuses, but those already on the DTV are not affected by the changes until their five years expires. As an example currently the financial requirement is bt800,000 for a retirement visa extension, but there are still people here on retirement visas they got after Vietnam when the financial requirement was just bt20,000, and the age limit was lower, and because they have never let the extension laps they are still under the bt20,000 requirement.

@Luit ****************

the only requirements to go to classes is on an ED visa, not the DTV. With an ED visa you extend it every 90 days with the documents your school gives you. The DTV has no requirements once you get the visa. In the future it might, but now it doesn't, and everyone that has it now is grandfathered in to any changes in the future, for the five years of the current visa.

You legally need a work permit, and a number of people do volunteer work without a work permit. Realize that if anyone files a complaint, and people do all the time, at that point the police will investigate and deal with it. If you are not legal they will process you for deportation.

Lots of people that have lived here for a few years were originally registered under the TM28 system by landlords with more than one condo/apartment in their complex. Everything now has moved to the TM30 form, so lots are being asked for a new TM30 on their next extension. I was registered under the old TM28 form, and asked for a new TM30 next extension because of this.

Currently there are no requirements that you even go to any classes. In the future there might be, but if you have the DTV now you are grandfathered into any changes in the future, meaning that any future changes don't affect you for the initial five years of your visa.

The most common reason for rejection is not having the bt500,000 equivalent in their personal bank account long enough.

@Jesper ******

with no deposit in July, even though there were two in June, the 12 month count will restart in August, then next month you made the bt65,000+ deposit, and count 12 months from then. You'll need the lump sum for your next extension.

You've got no problems. In most cases the immigration agent will file your 90 day report at the same time your extension is extended. You've got 7 days grace period after the 90 days expires. That's what they do with me in Bangkok.

Nothing about the DTV has anything to do with a Thai relative, or family member.