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Does leaving Thailand and returning on the same day affect the 90-day report date for a Retirement Visa?

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Jun 28, 2025
16 days ago
Stephen ************
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Hi, I have a Retirement Visa With a single entry attached

If I go to Laos and come back same day does it change my 90 day report date which is currently 5/8/2025.
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The consensus among community members indicates that if you leave Thailand on a single-entry Retirement Visa and return the same day, your 90-day report date will reset to day one upon your re-entry into the country. This means that your original 90-day report date will no longer be valid, and you will need to adhere to the new report date. Additionally, it is important to ensure that you have a re-entry permit to keep your stay valid during your absence from Thailand.
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Here you go. On that 90 day if you leave it goes back to day 1 as mentioned above b others
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Dick *********
Go to your nearest immigration office and get a re-entry permit. Now that you are on permission to stay by means of, retirement your 90 visa is void. You have extend your stay in the month prior to the expiry date on your retirement stamp.
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Piero *************
Remember to get a rentry visa first
15 days ago
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Stephen ********
I thought the rules had changed recently and land crossings no longer counted
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Richard *********
For simplicity I just pay a little extra each time in renew/extend my non-o (retirement) visa to include multiple (mind you big boss has to sign, sometimes will have to hold your passport to complete). I Don’t want to bother with in and out so I can go in and out whenever I want.
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Charlie *******
I truly don’t understand why the Thai government wants to make it so difficult for people to spend their fucking hard money in their country. You know what Mexico is starting to sound like a really good deal. Fucking idiots.
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Stephen ************
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@Charlie ******
Consider the Philippines?

They all speak English no dual prices great weather better beaches and the female population is 20 years younger on average

Just saying
14 days ago
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Todd **********
@Charlie ******
Well you can do that.. that’s a hard pass for me. Haha I live in Phoenix, I want nothing to do with Mexico haha
14 days ago
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Richard *********
@Charlie ******
 have fun, Thailand is worth the small hassle too me.
15 days ago
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Todd **********
@Richard ********
Yes sir
14 days ago
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Charlie *******
@Richard ********
 oh don’t get me wrong. I’m going there, but they sure piss a guy off.
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Dennis *********
pretty sure you need multi-entry, which costs extra. no idea why so many people decide not to pay the small free for this, and end up getting their visa cancelled when they go somewhere, for even 1 day.
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Russell *********
@Dennis ********
so true
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Randy *******
I want to  Vietnam one day when I came back to Thailand. Then too much later, I went to the United States and stayed three weeks. When I came back to Thailand, they almost didn’t let me back in the country. They said next time I might not be able to come back in.
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Gerrit ******************
Yes
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Bob **********
Why would you leave and come back on the same day ??Dont make sense if your just trying to re set your 90 days just pay the fine much cheaper than bouncing you’ll need a visa to enter Laos
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Stephen ************
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@Bob *********
 maybe you should ask the reason why I am going to Laos in the first place without jumping to conclusions

Could it be for a friends wedding ? a funeral of a relative ? The reason is irrelevant to you because you didn’t even answer the question
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Bob **********
@Stephen ***********
 it could be for anything but go and come right back why not spend a few days nice to see other countries
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Sirinantha *************************
You should go to the closer immigration department and ask, you will get 100% answer for sure.
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Nongnuch ********
@Stephen ***********
*** if you entered Thailand on a single-entry 90 days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa, you received a 90-days stay permit. The stamp will show an expiry date

*** the visa itself expired and became invalid when you entered.

*** if during these 90 days you plan a trip to Laos, you need to buy a re-entry permit for your 90-days stay permit in order to keep it alive when you exit Thailand

***so, when you return to Thailand, you will get stamped in only until the original expiry date you received on your first entry

***the 90-days clock will begin with day number one on the day you re-enter

I suspect you don’t have a “retirement visa” at all . . . you don't even have any visa (bad wording) but you are rather already on a “1-year extension of the stay permit based on retirement” . . but be it as it may, it doesn’t change a Yota of the info I have given you
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Stephen ************
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@Nongnuch *******
 do you have an English version of all that bul*+it ?
16 days ago
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Nongnuch ********
@Stephen ***********
 with regards and thanks to Robert Lagas, who wrote this!

Once more, because people try to give advice based on what they think is a "Retirement Visa"

First of all, you DO not have to be retired to apply for this visa. You however need to be 50 years or older

Second is that all options have DIFFERENT rules, regulations and requirements.

So please read and try not to give incorrect advice by using the requirements for a different type of visa or extension of stay.

What is a retirement visa?

It is a phrase used by foreigners and Immigration and it could be 6 different types of visa or stay permits, with different rules, regulations and requirements

OR

it could even be an 1 year Extension of Stay based on being over 50 years of age and willing to sit out the rest of their life inside Thailand.

It is easy to type “retirement visa”, but very difficult to understand which option the person refers to

Options are:

1. Single Entry Non Immigrant O visa based on being over 50 years of age

2. Multiple Entry Non Immigrant O visa based on being over 50 years of age (it got discontinued by October 2023 and is not available any more)

3. Non Immigrant O visa based on being over 50 years of age without entry by conversion at local immigration office

4. Non Immigrant O-A visa (Long Stay)

5. Non Immigrant O-X visa

6. Long Term Residency (LTR) visa

7. Extension of Stay based on being over 50 years of age and willing to sit out the rest of their life inside Thailand (stamp from Immigration, which is not a visa)

ONLY for options 3, 5 and 7 the applicant needs a bank account in Thailand or a Certificate of Income from their Embassy.

Option 2 cannot be applied for any more, since all Thai Embassies and Consulates took it out of the E-visa program.

Option 3 is applied for by conversion of your Visa Exempt Entry or Tourist Visa at your local Immigration Office inside Thailand.

Option 6 is applied for with support of BOI Thailand

Option 7 is applied for at your local Immigration Office AFTER you used a Non-Immigrant visa.

Other options are applied for at a Thai Consulate OR for those countries who are legit, on-line.

Thanks for reading this long explanation.
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Nongnuch ********
@Stephen ***********
 I gonna try it one more time: you either have a 12-months EOS with a single re-entry attached and call it wrongly "retirement visa", or you are still on the initial 90 days single entry Non-Imm-O visa. On the visa, you need a re-entry permit, or the 90-days stay permit will expire when you exit Thailand. If you are on the 12-months EOS and bought a single re-entry permit for it for 1000 THB, the stay permit will be kept alive and valid if you leave Thailand for one day
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Stephen ************
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@Nongnuch *******
Thank you for your new advice and yes I did buy a 1000 baht re-entry permit when I applied for my retirement visa in Jomtien which i intend to use in the return from Laos

My purpose for going to Laos is actually a wedding of a close friend
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Tony ********
Make sure have re-entry stamp can get from airport or imm
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Andy ***********
90 day report resets when you enter the country ..
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Danny ******
Well, that’s why you should’ve paid the extra for the re-entry fee. Now you’re gonna have to do it all from scratch again, but this next time be educated and pay extra for the reentry multiple reentry.
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Stephen ************
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@Danny *****
Who is your answer implying to ?
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James ********
@Danny *****
 if you're going out, you can request for a reentry for your retirement visa, at the airport before you leave.
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Danny ******
@James *******
 so my understanding was when I renew my retirement visa .I paid extra for the reentry on my retirement visa.
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Nongnuch ********
@Danny *****
 you never ever "renewed my retirement visa". You only applied for the next 1-year Extension of the Stay Permit based on Retirement. You are not on any "retirement visa" anymore. A "visa" technically cannot get extended. For each "1-year extension of the stay permit" you can buy either a single re-entry permit (1000 THB) or a multi re-entry permit (3800 THB) These re-entry permits are valid for the whole duration of your extended stay permit
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James ********
@Nongnuch *******
 your not making any sense, I've talked to visa places and lawyers, about visa, and all say 90 days tourist, or 1 year visa. You may want to use the same wording everyone in Thailand uses, so you're not making it confusing to New Tourists coming to Thailand. You're the only one I've heard talk or explain it like you do in the 12 years of dealing with my visas, and that includes visa agents, lawyers and government visa agents .
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Stephen ********
@James *******
@Nong****
 is correct though, why should they change the correct worded to suit those who have possibly dumbed it down for expats? I've recently got a Non B visa, and then got an extension of stay for a further 12 months. My lawyer messaged me to say i was granted my 12 month visa, even though its not a visa. My visa stamp has a big 'USED' stamped over it. That's it done and dusted. Only extension of stays from here on in
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Nongnuch ********
@Stephen *******
 it's refreshening to see at least one person here who has his wits together 🙂
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Nongnuch ********
@James *******
 even the stamp in your passport doesn't mention anything about a "visa extension". It clearly says that you received an "extended stay permit" . . I don't care what stupid lawyers, stupid agent folks and stupid immigration officers pretend to know. I know that what I am saying is 100% correct. I am not willing to accept a technical wrong wording
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Stephen ************
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@Nongnuch *******
 that is the exact same visa as mine with a single entry stamp

Regarding the re-entry is this what it is ? Do i need anything else
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Nongnuch ********
@Stephen ***********
 the re-entry stamp in the picture is that of a single re-entry permit. It would cost 1000 THB on Immigration, or 1200 THB at the airport. If you plan to exit and re-enter Thailand more often than 3 times during your one-year extension of stay permit, then buying a multi re-entry permit for 3800 THB would make sense
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Stephen ************
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@Nongnuch *******
I understand the multiple entry stamp which was offered to me for 4000 baht but I only needed the single entry which I purchased for 1000 baht at immigration office

So that is basically all I need to leave Thailand and return?
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Nongnuch ********
@Stephen ***********
 a single re-entry permit keeps the stay permit it was issued for, alive and valid, for one exit and re-entry
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Stephen ************
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@Nongnuch *******
 thanks i really didn’t understand the re-entry terminology but now you have explained it i am happy i have that stamp in my passport so it should be hassle free
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Nongnuch ********
@Stephen ***********
 ONE MORE TIME: you don't have a "visa", if you got the same stamp. You got a stay permit. You got an "extension of the stay permit". A stay permit is not a visa.
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@James *******
 those lawyers, agents, immigration officers and all these people are just stupid. Just struck stupid. There is a difference between a visa and a stay permit. A visa is something with which you enter a country. Upon entering, the visa becomes invalid for further use. You are now inside the country on a stay permit. The duration of the stamped stay permit was determined by the type of visaclass you used for the entry. The 1-year extension of the stay permit must be renewed every year, making it NOT a "visa extension", which is such a stupid wording, but an extension ot the temporary stay permit. Even Hua Hin Immigration is now using the correct wording
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Nongnuch ********
@James *******
 even some Immigrations discontinued calling it "visa extension". You can technically not extend any visa. You can only extend the stay permit.
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@James *******
 if somebody enters on a "90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa", he gets a 90-days stay permit stamped, and the visa will expire and become invalid for another use
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James ********
@Nongnuch *******
 my retirement visa is for 12 months, had one for the last 12 years, except last year's because of some work I had outside Thailand, not sure what a 90 retirement visa is, is that new?
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Nongnuch ********
@James *******
 there used to be two kinds of "Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa" available, a 90-days single entry type and a 365-days multi entry type. The multi entry type Non-Imm-O got discontinued by October 2023. Right now the only "Retirement Visa" you can apply for is the 90-days single entry Non-Imm-O visa
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Nongnuch ********
@James *******
 you don't even have a "visa" any more. You are in Thailand on a "1-year extended stay permit" which is based on reason "retirement". And that's what the stamp in your passport says. A stay permit is not a visa. The visa you entered Thailand with expired 12 years ago and you have been inside Thailand on a stay permit since, and not on a visa.
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@James *******
 correct wording is important! . . . . . you cannot request a re-entry permit for a visa that doesn't exist. You can only get a re-entry permit for an existing STAY PERMIT, not for a "visa"
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John **********
Hotels will always do your TM30. If your in your own place or rented you have to report to your local immigration within, I think 36hrs unless its a bank Holiday, but as soon as you can.
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Mike ********
I think you still have to do your TM 30 or if you're renting make sure they do it
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Lynnette *******
90 days continuously in the country will not exist if you are not in the country. When you arrive again it's day 1 of you being IN the country.
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Peter *********
Yes starts day one on enter Thailand 🇹🇭
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J.P. ******
@Peter ********
 Yes! GOOD answer!
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Brandon ************
If you leave Thailand and return, you start counting 90 days again from day 1 on the day you return.
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Stephen ************
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@Brandon ***********
 do I need a re-entry stamp to keep my current visa (retirement) valid with the same conditions?
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@Stephen ***********
 if you don't have a re-entry permit when you exit Thailand then at that point your retirement extension ends, and you start over.
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Sean **********
@Stephen ***********
 yep
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Brandon ************
@Stephen ***********
 Yes, you would need a re-entry permit.
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Stephen ************
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@Brandon ***********
 thanks Brandon I really appreciate your straight to the point answer 👍
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@Brandon ***********
 I went for 5 days by land and on my way back, they did not want to let me back in, but at the end of a long talk she gave me 1 month with no renewal. I was told to fly in and out if I wanted a 60 day visa. First time going out of Thailand by land and will not be doing that again.
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Stuart *********
@James *******
 Love to see that stamp. If you are able to enter visa exempt they’ll give you a 60 day stamp. No one gets a 30 day stamp these days.
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Bob **********
@James *******
 we’re talk long stay visa here
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Ralph *******
@James *******
 Good information.
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