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WhitePhoenix5046 not true, never happened. Join the DTV group and ask. Nobody has ever been asked for the funds when re-entering Thailand on a DTV
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Ronnie Jasper I think you have misunderstood how a DTV works
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you were free to use the 500,000 as soon as the DTV was issued. You need not to keep it in the account, unless you try to extend for further 180 days instead of doing a simple boder bounce. In this case if you try an exntension, Immigration might want to see the 500,000 THB deposit, again. Avoid such a situation
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Mircea Sorin Thank you for pointing it out
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So, out of 365 days of a year, you are coming to Thailand for a minimum of 180 days, split up into two-months increments.

Why would you want to complicate matters?

You should just put the 800,000 THB into your Thai bank account and apply for the 1-year Extension of Temporary Stay Permit.

Then buy a multi re-entry permit for this one year stay permit, for 3800 Baht. On the extension and the multi re-entry permit, you can come and leave as many times as you wish during the 1-year EOS.

Myself I am hibernating for 6 months every year since 18 years, I got a minimum of 800,000 THB in my Thai bank account and my annual EOS application costs a 1900 Baht fee, the bank letter costs 200 Baht.

For the bank account and the money in it, I have made up a Thai Last Will.

Easy peasy. Why would you want to complicate matters?
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look, if on the day you get your 1-year extension of stay issued, and you know that you will at least make one journey to abroad, then ya oughta buy the re-entry permit right there on Immigration
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Peter H Bates a Royal Thai embassy does NOT give you any advice or explanations. This is nothing they typically do. This is not their job. Only a Thai Immigration might have handout lists of requirements for extensions of stay permits out of different Non-Imm-visa types
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oxleystreet Don't argue with me. I would say you should better argue your opinion with these three group moderators. All three of them prove you WRONG. It is very amazing to find the three of them replying to the OP one after the other. Really amazing and I love it
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oxleystreet you experience does not count, your denial of entry was because different reasons. There are no new visa rules and there is no new law.

There is no reset, and most of all, there is nothing such as a reset when a new calendar year begins.

There is no limit of two visa-exemptions within a 1-year period, and definitely not within a calendar year. This is simply not true.

What has changed, mandated from above, is the strict scrutinizing of your number of visa-exempt entries and the thorough check on "visa runners" (actually they meant to say "consecutive border runners"). The new approach taken by border officials is intended to ensure that the option to do a "visa run" is not misused.

Now as far as regarding extensions on visa-exempt entries, it does appear that the Immigration offices are indeed only issuing 7-day extensions if you already got a previous 30-day extension on a visa exempt entry. The count is 60 + 30 + 60 + 7 = 157 days maximum within a 1-year period, regardless of whether you arrive by air or land.

This is not standardized. The decision is made upon the discretion of the individual immigration officer, and your experience might vary from it.

There are some reports of touristic extensions on top of the 60-days being denied for those having arrived across a land border, while there have been some cases under the same circumstances where an extension was granted.

Fact is, it is subjective and up to the decision of the officer you are standing in front of when you wish to enter the country. They decide if you are a "real tourist" or if they think you are milking the visa-exempt entry program.

There is just no clear directive as far as what's what, there are no official rules, however after a few interviews with Immigration top officers, a few basic patterns have crystallized.

Some people with a 30-days extension already on a previous visa exempt entry reported getting another 30-days extension without any issue, however some only got a 7-days extension issued. Again, your experience might vary from that.

The 7-days extension is a REAL extension. It is not the same as the stamp "application to extension denied, you have seven days to leave the Kingdom". I have already seen the stamp of a 7-days extension, it takes up half of a passport page.

Visa-exempt entries are not limited to two entries per year. This is a misconception, and some agents and lawyers spread this information to make profit from panicked people.

Honest agents and Immigration Volunteers are warning you should not believe those alleged news telling you that visa-exempt entries are limited to two per year. It simply is not true.

In the past, visa-exempt entries were limited to two across a land border, this rule was discontinued on July 15, 2024.

On the paper, visa-exempt entries by air or across land and sea were “unlimited” after this date.

Attention: the wording “unlimited” is not a fixed rule of Immigration – THEY decide on an individual decision when your “personal limit” is up.

On conditions, multiple visa-exempt entries are possible - like four, five or even more times, if it is apparent that you do not circumvent the system.

The entry history in your passport and your profile on Immigration’s Central Computer must prove that your stays were short-term holidays - like only 2-4 weeks.

Some Immigration officers will tell you that the total number of visa-exempt days should not exceed 150 days, some will tell you the limit is 157 days. It remains unclear – because there is no official rule, there is no official limit. There are only guidelines on how to treat repeated entries.

The best proof that you are not milking the visa-exemption system is when you can show that you returned to your home country between each stay, or stayed abroad for a long time. And when you can show an onward travel proof.

The new approach was to prohibit "visa runs," where you only entered a neighboring country briefly and then immediately re-entered.

You must be able to prove your short holiday - for example, with proof of onward travel or a return ticket. A border official would rather consider you being a "genuine" tourist based on short holiday trips within a year. They expect that you never maximized any of these visa-exempt holidays.

What is crystal-clear: Some people still say it means “calendar year”, yet this does not make much sense. The count is based on a one-year period. A new calendar year does not reset anything.

Those who want to play safe should obtain a single-entry tourist visa in advance for stays of up to 60 days, with the option to extend for 30 more days.

ATTENTION: obtaining a tourist visa after you have accumulated a few visa exempt stays, does not clean the stamp history slate.

Touristic entries on a tourist visa will also be frowned upon when you start to maximize them. To use a tourist visa directly after you have used visa-exempt stays, does not free you from the obligations. The Immigration officer won’t be fooled.

For people who like to spend half a year in South East Asia and who like to make Thailand the base for other travels, the 6-months multi-entry Tourist Visa is the perfect choice.

If you are still looking for a confirmation that my advice is based on facts, you are free to check what Tod Daniels published in a few other visa-advice groups.

His stance is identical to mine. If there is any person who has the knowledge, then it is T.D. – the Facebook “visa guru” expert.
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oxleystreet there is no limit for border runs - you only cannot do same-day border runs on your own any more. You forgot to state how much time must past between two exempt entries - that's also a "border run" yet with a few months appart. There however is a limit of EXTENSIONS done on visa-exempt entries within a 1-year period
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