@Craig *******

okay so even if you pay attention and do the 2 hours a week for a year you won't actually make any noticeable progress? I think I can do more than that I'm just trying to get a good idea and a starting point. I need to go back and figure out how many hours per week I was studying Spanish in secondary education maybe that will give me a good Baseline although I understand this language is more difficult for us speakers

@Craig *******

Right do you or people usually study more than that though. Like is it a waste if you don't study on your own?

@Craig *******

I believe you can file for a second and possible third year and may habe to exit and than return. I will let you know as others habe it explained to me you can get a education Visa more than once. How many hours of study per week is expected in and out of class? Thanks

@Craig *******

I am talking about doing a renewal for a second or third year.. I don't want to confused that or what a language school told you about your original/ education Visa. I am asking about applying again the following year. I belive this can be done. Do you feel the school is helping you learn. Thanks

@Luis **********

Good point hopefully I can get married within a year or so. Wondering what people think the odds are of me doing this for at least perhaps 3 years. Thanks

@Brandon ***********

I'm not trying to do anything sketchy, seriously. I've Tried reaching out to the immigration office there and I tried reaching out to a bunch of different government offices in the Philippines and never even got a reply from those people. I've been going out of my way for months on end to try to get information and do things by the books but thank you for the humor

@Brandon ***********

Thank you so what about if I just studied the Thai language or did something else like a dojo or dive classes and just renewed every year is that possible? Again I'm talking about a legitimate organization I'm not just looking for a fake school thanks cool I'm willing to put in the work.

@Luis **********

It's not easier because that's a ton of money. I'd rather study a couple hours per week or per day than throw that type of money down the drain, I'm trying to find ways to do a volunteer or education Visa that's why I started a new thread because I didn't want to keep getting stuck on the Elite Visa. I'm not asking what's easiest I'm asking if it can be done or not or no it's easiest if someone has an extra 20k plus. I'm on a retired military pension. Not someone with more money than I know what to do with the trying to restructure my tax under restructure my tax bracket or so busy with high in business that I'd rather just pay a ton of money to save the time in household I don't like being hassled or whatever else but I'm dealing with medical issues and doing a lot of medical treatment at home anyways so I could be studying a language or something and that would be worth it to me more than paying $26k. I don't have that much saved up and I'm not taking out a loan..$4,800 NET per month.

@Karim **************

The thing is I'm 39..I don't have a ton of upfront capital. $4,800 Net month retirement pension per month. Too young for the retirement Visa there. ANY suggestions in my case. I've tried email an Visa immigration firm and they seem like they're not gonna say much until I pay a consultation fee I would at least like to know exactly how that could help me before doing that thank you so much

@Karim **************

Do you think that would likely bring any problems with the locals or the place that's what someone was trying to insinuate on here. Thanks. Also it sounds like I would need to hire 4 Thai people in order to open a business there..Blessings