@Mark *******

yes, Christmas and birthday presents, you don't buy anything for your partner? Doctors appointments I already explained above when you questioned me, that figure is the exact cost for my daughter's vaccination and check-up appointments, it does not include mine or my partners costs as they are sometimes nothing per year. Coffee, yes coffee but you'll also see (must be your selective reading playing up again lol) in front of coffee it says 'outside activities/coffee' for ฿3000, so I've probably underestimated on that for someone that enjoys a coffee at a Cafe etc each morning and that's without considering the outside activities part, but for my family (it is my budget after all), yes it's about ฿3000 as I only get a coffee on the days I go to the gym, so roughly times per week. The outside activities part could be anything but in my case it's usually paying for an hour at a play zone etc for my daughter every few days. It also includes the expenses I incur when going on a ride with a group where we stop for lunch etc. So no, the figures aren't plucked out of thin air, they are taken from averages over years of living here. Again on the retired thing, I am also retired, and again as I explained above, if you're an elderly retired person you'd probably need to actually account for more expenses than a younger retired person due to medications, more expensive insurance premiums etc. As to the ballpark figure, the OP has certainly received that, mine and the other 60 commentors have all said about $2500, well except for the 1 individual comment which said $400 per month lol.

@Mark *******

surely you can't be that oblivious in seeing how you've constantly contradicted yourself throughout this post. Ignorance is bliss I guess or possibly you're just getting a little senile as you get on. Yes, I must be AI or something, even though I'm one of the only commentors that provided a detailed breakdown of my monthly/yearly expenses instead of just giving a round figure, very troll worthy lol.

@Mark *******

are you as selective with your hearing in person as you are with your reading 🤣 do you also realise how you continually contradict yourself in your comments throughout this entire post...lol. And no, I'd not even consider the one single comment from a member saying $400 is enough to life on but I'd rather focus on the other 60 members advising between $2k-$4k as I just mentioned above.

@Mark *******

so looking at the replies from over 60 people on this post, only 2 of them (which you wouldn't consider their opinion/experience anyway as they're under 50) have put their expenses from $1500-$1800 per month compared to the 60 other members advising they spend from $2000-$4000 with a few members saying over that amount per month. So I guess the only 1 guy (which isn't retired and still working so again not the target audience yhe OP is looking to hear from) commenting that he lives on a measly $400 per month will be considered a reliable figure to aim for...I rest my case lol.

@Mark *******

according to your comment; "But the OP is retired, so his situation is totally different to yours. I think he's seeking feedback from people in a similar situation?" So why did Jeremy bother to even comment then if it's completely unrealistic to expect other foreigner expats to live on only ฿13k per month and also as you say his situation is not similar to the OPs as Jeremy was not retired, he was working here etc...now you say the OP is looking for "feedback across the board" make your mind up...So now you assume he wants feedback across the board, but you tell me my itemised list of expenses isn't relevant because I'm not retired, which I am actually retired, so you say well he wants feedback from people over 50, so why is Jeremy's meager budget of a non retired person working here so important to be considered, when you then tell me, a retired person who happens to be under 50 (which the OP never mentioned an age group anyway) is so irrelevant?

@Mark *******

do you think recommending that only ฿13k per month is a realistic figure for someone that's enquiring about what average living expenses are here for a retired expat? And that ฿80k is hugely overpriced?

@Mark *******

exactly, that's why I listed most of my expenses individually so he can see if anything applies to him or not. Yes, those making go fund me are leaches on society instead of paying their own way and having health insurance or cash reserves like everyone else that pays their way here. Big bike insurance? Most that can afford a big bike also pay for 1st class insurance or they've got plenty of cash to fork out if they don't have it, but I've not met anyone with a 1mil+ bike that doesn't have comprehensive insurance, most use roojai after the 1st year complimentary insurance expires. Nobody said you can't survive here on a pittance, but it's definitely not living if you're a foreigner and actually many Thai live here without any income and have a better lifestyle than if a foreigner had no pot to piss in.

@Mark *******

well if we're just assuming he means retired as being 50+ then I guess we should also assume he'll need to account for medications as many elderly people generally need medications, also nearly every 'retired expat' I know/see owns a big bike not just a scooter so I guess the insurances etc from my budget would apply to him too. What other generalisations should we make in that case, well the guys without big bikes are usually the bar stool occupants that like spending money on alcohol and drinking at new sky bars every night and usually indulge in ladie's services. Most older guys enjoy eating at nice restaurants instead of /70 baht Thai food for every meal, how much should we allocate for that...

@Mark *******

I'm also a retired expat living here for the last 6yrs, and I didn't see the OP mention his age either so I shared my experience as he may have similar interests/lifestyle. Give yourself a pat on the back for being non-judgemental...

@Mark *******

I mentioned Thai people have a scooter as you said some foreigners want to live like a Thai person does. I don't think the guy living on ฿150k per year is retired as he mentioned working. Anyway, I listed my average monthly expenses above so the OP can see what I spend as a young retired person here with a Thai partner and toddler living on a modest budget. He can deduct or add to the list as he sees fit to suit his own situation and lifestyle needs. I commented on Jeremy's comment as I found it out of the ordinary for a foreigner to be living here on only ฿13k per month. People in that bracket are usually beg packers and as you said end up needing a go fund me when shit hits the fan.