@Steve ******

yes that's just the 90 day visa before you apply for the yearly extendable O retirement visa in Thailand.

I doubt anyone is going to retire for 90 days 🤣

But you can apply for the annual extendable OA retirement visa within many countries.

I already had an annual extendable O retirement visa plus the 90 day O visa at the start.

You cannot get the annual and extendable O retirement visa outside of Thailand. Only the OA.

@Graham *****

there is a 90 day non-immigrant O visa, you get before the non-immigrant O retirement visa, which is valid for 1 year.

Generally in Thailand you get the 90 day O visa before you transfer to the yearly O retirement visa. You get the O retirement visa in Thailand.

Outside of Thailand you can straight up apply for a retirement OA visa which gives you a year.

If you use an agent or lawyer in Thailand to get an O retirement visa after arriving visa exemption, you will get a 15 month retirement visa, which is the 90 day O visa plus the 12 month O Retirement visa. It's a bit of a grey area to have them all at once, but you pay for the convenience.

@Steve ******

there are 2 types of retirement visa, the O and OA.

You can get the OA outside of Thailand, but the O inside only.

They have slightly different requirements.

You cannot get the non-immigrant O retirement in the US, just the OA retirement.

Why don't you just apply for a non-immigrant OA retirement visa in the US?

You can't apply for the non-immigrant O retirement visa in the US though, just the OA.

20 years if you get invited to apply

I don't see why not

@Sionann *****

no worries

Do you need someone to hold your hand?

@Joseph ******

very valid point, the UK is a poor option, but maybe the only option for some people if they can't go to Thailand for any reason