Once imprisoned in Thailand, are you blacklisted for life?

Apr 25, 2024
7 months ago
Kieron *******
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Does anyone know once being imprisoned in Thailand are you blacklisted for life?
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The question revolves around the potential lifetime blacklist status of individuals who have been imprisoned in Thailand. While some comments suggest that incarceration may lead to a blacklist, especially if deported, others propose that it could depend on the nature of the crime and the individual's circumstances. Many users advise consulting with immigration attorneys or legal experts for personalized guidance since experiences and outcomes can vary widely. Some shared personal anecdotes indicating that re-entry to Thailand after imprisonment is not always guaranteed, and it might be influenced by various factors like the crime committed, duration of the punishment, or administrative decisions.
John *********
Apply for a tourist visa and see what happens
Greta *****
I say there is only one way to find out...Go for it!
Chris *********************
Try getting a evesa see what happens, worth a try
Kieron *******
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Jan **********
case dependent.
Pete ********
Someone I know overstayed a few months did a week in monkey house and has been deported with no entry for five years
Kieron *******
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@Pete *******
mine was a little more severe, remanded then deported
Pete ********
@Kieron ******
You're probably blacklisted for five years. Best of luck finding out though mate.
Kieron *******
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@Pete *******
think it's for life as I was charged
Pete ********
@Kieron ******
So was the guy who overstayed. I would try finding out from the Thai Embassy maybe? At least you would know for sure. On the bright side there are other places in south east Asia
Kieron *******
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@Pete *******
sure mate thankyou, it looks like Laos to meet up with Kon Thai friends
Pete ********
@Kieron ******
All the best mate
Kieron *******
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@Pete *******
best wishes to yourself to bud
Pete ********
Not me though πŸ˜€
Kace *******
i was arrested in 2004 on my way to phuket for weed. deported right before the tsunami. probably saved my life, matter of fact. i came back in 2019. i was nervous in line at bkk airport waiting to get stamped at immigration but nothing came up. i’m on my third vacation now in krabi since the β€œevent β€œ.
Greta *****
@Kace ******
Wow! That's a story for a Hollywood movie! 'Saved by the weed'
Ruby ***********
If I was put to prison in a country I would boycott that country and go elsewhere my gosh
Neil **********
@Ruby **********
absolutely i certainly wouldn't be going back or even want to
Tom *********
@4U ***********
can help advise with blacklisting. Message..
Duncanc **********
Wins the internet for today ❀️
Kieron *******
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@Duncanc *********
abit late, it was last night actually and 3 immigration officers have told me 3 different things. So relax mate
Bill *********
You can only go to Phuket with the rest of the criminals once imprisoned.
Kieron *******
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@Bill ********
don't want to go there, wanted to visit friends in korat and isan.
Kieron *******
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This is a cell on transportation to Bangkok Hilton
Shun *********
as it should be.
Kieron *******
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@Shun ********
it should in most cases but not in this one but you are most likely a fan mosaics law. Guilty until proven innocent.
Shun *********
even if found innocent it still should be up to the country whether or not you're deported/banned.
Kieron *******
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@Shun ********
I would hate you to be apart of a jury. I was fined
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baht but still deported because my visa expired inside
Shun *********
@Kieron ******
man that sounds terrible. after that experience would you still want to return to Thailand?
Kieron *******
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@Shun ********
would but not solo and never trying to do the good Samaritan. I would stay away from Pattaya,Phuket,Bangkok all tourist areas.
Shun *********
@Kieron ******
everyone in prison says they're innocent. how did you wind up in Thai prison?
Kieron *******
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@Shun ********
no they don't mate, I've been to prison in my young days in Australia and I definitely wasn't innocent. 25 years later I am a different person, I found a iPhone on the Pattaya beach accessed emergency settings trying to find owner, no luck so started walking towards soi 9. They came towards me as I was walking towards them saying find my Iphone app. I had 2 phones and
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0 baht. Never try and return someone's item again. Then I wouldn't part with 20k baht so remanded, the poor lady did not want to anything the police descretion. Then judge sent me home after 51 days as opposed to a 2 year 2 month sentence. I've done many wrong things but this was not one
Dave *******
Ask the Thai embassy, don’t risk getting arrested at the airport
Kieron *******
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@Dave ******
No would not risk Thai immigration detention centre again. It was worse than the prison tbf
Kris ********
Best this you can do, try to apply for visa from the Thai embassy wherever you are, if they give you the visa then no issues
Kieron *******
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@Kris *******
thanks for the input mate
Ryan *********
Im getting grilled at BKK/DMK for too many tourist visa stamps so I can’t imagine having sat a prison term onsite being looked upon too favourably. Perhaps aim for Vietnam or Cambodia next stop.
Kieron *******
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@Ryan ********
Laos or Cambodia seems like the next one to meet up with Khon Thai. I've heard 1 year,5 years for life all from immigration so don't know. I definitely wouldn't book a flight expecting to be let in, no more Bangkok Hilton for me. Been home 5 days and still sick
John *****
I don't think I'd want to return if I'd been remanded tbf
Kieron *******
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@John ****
I met many good Khon Thai men, they looked out for me more than farang. There is good and bad everywhere, no matter where. Many would say the same thing but if allowed I would return someday.
Dorian ********
I don’t recommend kampuchea but vietnam is lit
Garry ********
Passport should be stamped I would have thought?
Kieron *******
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Kieron *******
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@Garry *******
there's something on it but nothing saying blacklisted
Neil **********
I think that would be the least of your problems πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Kieron *******
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@Neil *********
least, not at all I met some life long friends in nong pal lai. The Thai men looked out for me not the Farang. I am home in Australia now, I am still adapting and have some things subconscious like waking up thinking I am still there. But no other problems apart from wanting to return some day to meet with the inmates that looked out for me like I had known them for life.
Dan ********
@Kieron ******
it's all just character building anyway. But use it positively.
Kieron *******
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@Dan *******
I have definately more humble and respectful now back home
Sean *****
Don’t know your detail , but I have a friend (English) and was imprisoned for many months after which he returned to uk for a short while but is now back living in Thailand for the last
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years , so it is possible
Dan ********
@Sean ****
was this chap convicted of a crime though. Many spend time behind bars here, and no case is taken before a court. Which sounds the case here also. In which case he was a month or two overstay, payed 20k fine and deported. Blacklist you'll get an A4 sheet given with the details, printed, with just a few spaces for them to enter your name, passport number, total days overstay, duration of ban, and date/signatures, even in thai language its quite obvious the contents. I think aussie lad might have slipped the net here. Apply for a visa firstly, that's a clue, but not a guaranteed answer. Do we know that thai embassy's recieve the blacklist even ? You'd be surprised....
Kieron *******
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@Sean ****
that's promising. Thankyou. There were 3 english men in there that were innocent but we're not getting anywhere either. 1 xDrink driving, drugs in urine test x 2. They were still there after 80 days
Joe ******
Some visas require a criminal record check in Thailand, and if your passport details are with immigration police, then it would not look good for you.

But depends if you were wrongly imprisoned or not I guess.
Kieron *******
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Joe Mann in the eyes of the law my imprisonment was suspended by the constutional court. But
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baht fine which was accumulated at 1-500 baht daily.
Richard *********
Well, it's not going to win you any favours I'm guessing...........
Kieron *******
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@Richard ********
no I agree, just got back to Australia and miss people there. Perhaps bordering countries are the best way. Thanks for your input
Stephen ********
Find a lady boy in the Hilton and the time will fly by πŸ˜‚
Chris *********************
John *******
I imagine asking for a friend 555
Kieron *******
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@John ******
nah asking for me mate, love the place just had a bad experience with people of substance and disrespected them. Forgot I was in Thailand and not Australia and it came back on me.
John *******
@Kieron ******
I understand your cry but it is very common practice sht like that in thailand not sure its looking favourable for your next visit entry to the kingdom is never guaranteed for any of us its entirely at the descresion of the IO infront of you but can be lucky been there 26 times never had an issue will be back in July after 3 months in bali nothing is new here you play stupid games you win stupid prizes Chokh di
Jay ****
Money talks.
Kieron *******
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@Jay ***
that's where I went wrong, should have kicked over what was asked but not only did I say no I disrespected the Thai police. I was walking along Pattaya beach seen an iPhone tried using it to contact owner, no luck started walking to soi 9 police station and was pinged to me on find my phone app. I had 2 phones, I will never try and return someone's lost possessions again not even now I am back in Australia.
Jay ****
@Kieron ******
sounds like a setup.
Kieron *******
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@Jay ***
was but how can I prove it, just hoping it is fixable. The judge must have felt something was dodgy under embassy's advice I could have had a maximum 2.5yr sentence if pleaded guilty. Possibly 5 years because I found it after 6pm at night. Scary situation for a solo travelling farang
Jay ****
@Kieron ******
never plea. Burden of proof is on them.
Kieron *******
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@Jay ***
many men I know fought cases and I generally believe some were innocent but it turns a 5 year sentence into a 10 year one. It is not showing remorse by pleading not guilty unless you have some really good evidence or a decent judge you are gone. It is not like Australia, the police do not even ware body cams so anything can be corrabarated in Thai on the documents. That's why I would not sign them. They could have typed anything in Thai
Jay ****
@Kieron ******
helps to have thai friends or gf.
Kieron *******
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@Jay ***
if you can trust them also, I seen many farangs get rorted from western union transfers. Luckily my friend still bought the baht and asked how much I needed.
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left me with 7500 one day.
Kieron *******
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@Jay ***
yes do have many 2 were willing to guarantee my residence at their addresses. But no one knew where I was until around 40 odd days in to remand. Thats why I was offered barkan doer and karbarn g
Kieron *******
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@Jay ***
they wanted
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0 baht then
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baht for lawyer, under Australia embassy's advice. My mum did not have it, I did not and therefore had no legal advisor, interpreter or translator. Would not sign the police statement for 4 days because never knew what it said until embassy said. Crazy times, never travel solo again. Burden of proof is in the polices statements and whatever they want to say. They can pull witnesses from anywhere, the person knew I never stole the phone but did say police found it in my possession. Thai people are petrified of authorities, I love the people,country and humbleness but like everywhere you can get stitched up if you disrespectful.I thought I was doing the right thing returning a phone, but it turned south real quick. And had no lawyer so very lucky the judge heard me out via the translator from Russia.
Dan ********
@Kieron ******
sounds proper wrong. Please answer as much as you can. Private message if you can. what was the actual crime charge ? Did you go to criminal trial at law court, in front of a judge ? No cctv of you finding the phone that night? Who stopped/searched you ? Police ? Pattaya police ? In uniform ? How many ? What was their initial request ? Money ? 300k ? There on the street ? The phones owner was with them ? Surely there were many people in the area 6pm in pattaya ? But they accurately picked you out ? Phone was unlocked ? How long before they took you to police station ? In what way did you disrespect the police ? It could be simple as that. I know two guys busted, one was decent, struck a deal, paid up and shipped out, other one was a dick, spent two years in nick.

How much money did you have in your bank at the time? What price of accommodation were you at ? Do you think you were targeted or unfortunate and random ? I think maybe a simple hustle got out of control, maybe driven by you, and once you cross the line it's hard to come back. Another thai fella was instantly offering 1million baht cash to the arresting officers, they refused, into police station, press and camera crew waiting for the snapshots, station chief not playing ball, they wanted him. Then he's on the front of newspapers and websites and social media and there's a lot of people need pleasing once you get there. I always have 50k cash in my safe just incase small problems. And a reliable friend back home who has been versed, and can ping 1million at the drop of a hat. He'd also get on a flight and deliver it in person 12 hours later such is the importance of not crossing over that threshold into a police station, which is when shit gets formal. You got to pay everyone in authority on duty. Someone's day off ? They hear there's been an arrest. Ker-ching. They want money or life becomes difficult again. You get a court date, you're paying a judge too. Back on the street, most cops will accept quick surprising low amounts, I'm surprised that corruption goes on. But obviously prices go up if you farang, paying money in nice hotel/villa etc, but hold your ground, make them doubt.
Kieron *******
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@Dan *******
sent you some footage mate in messenger
Kieron *******
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@Dan *******
I'll send you some footage shortly that will change your mind on corruption. I had money on release as family had sent it and it was in pocket first place I went was banglamung then soi 9. Because I had baht I got my phone, food and drinks from
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, cigarettes and a joint believe it or not as it's not illegal there but the fact I got all that and privileges compared to the first time because I had cash says alot or I would have footage from start to end. Not just end. Only footage I have from beginning was when I felt like something was going wrong and video called my brother who screen recorded it. If I could go back I would pay 50k baht I had nearly 200k in my bank but that was even useless once in prison until my mum western unioned an Australian lady. Then I had more than enough, they also have a VIP room that fits around 20 people for a monthly price in prison, I refused to leave my Kon Thai friends who had looked out for me since 1st day to go in a cell or sleeping room with the other farangs. If I was going they were too but I am no better than Kon Thai because I finally had money, they are the ones that stuck by me with no money at all from outside sources. I felt at ease sleeping in a room of 127 Kon thais barely any movement than abandoning the ones that honestly cared for me from the beginning
Kieron *******
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@Dan *******
will answer all of this and show a little footage that is not exclusive to media of how things work there. I was charged with Lapsapp theft, in uniform, I called my brother right away and got him to record it and send it to embassy,afp and Australia parliament. I was walking to the police station when on beach road I seen uniform police with a lady and approached them. I had accessed emergency settings that allowed me to call certain numbers it was not unlocked this is a function on most phones. They only wanted 20k lawyers wanted
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0k for the case
Dan ********
@Kieron ******
so on the beach road, when the police first found the phone in your possession, they asked for 20,000 Baht, and you refused ? Did you try to politely barter ? Offer 5000, 8000, 10k, and so on ? What numbers did you call on the phone ? Did you mention somewhere here you had 100k baht on you also ? In cash ? Why so much cash ? Did the police find that too. Do you feel the phones owner, the lady was in on it ? How did you disrespect the police, as you said ? Sounds like a cheap sting, and when you've refused the bung whilst holding 100k baht in your hand, they've got shirty. Could have even been a genuine lost phone, and the sight of the 100k made them seize the opportunity. Why you not pay the 20k ? That was your mistake right there, especially with 100k in the hand, and 200k in the bank.
Kieron *******
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@Dan *******
I had
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0k in bank for implants and no cash on me. After the horse has bolted I ended up saying take me to the ATM and I'll get it for you. They said they need cash, Thai police big money for bribe?!! I must have misinterpreted that I had 100k baht in pocket. The lady seemed like she was getting pressured into making statement etc. Once back at police station I started saying stupid things like I earn more than you in 3 months than you do in a year, singing advance Australia fair, just being a cocky dick. I needed this to become humble again tbf, I called a number that said mother in emergency settings
Steve ***********
You should be.. IMO
Kieron *******
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@Steve **********
I would think this too under different circumstances. I have done many things wrongs years ago, at worse I disrespected police verbally
Francesco **********
get a korean pass and you will be fine……………
THAI ******************************
It depends on what you have done as that will dictate the blacklsiting.

With serious criminal offenses your visa is usually canceled, and they will put you on a special short term visa to deal with any court cases assuming you are not already found guilty and serving time.

Also in many cases you are immediately blacklisted through this process. If you are found innocent you will have to go through the proper channels, and acquire proof of this to have the blacklist removed.
Kieron *******
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@THAI *****************************
the judge set Buchan doer for 20k baht and asked if I wanted to stay. I said no, I want to go home. Thai prison is hard for a non Thai speaking Farang. The judge then said at 500 baht a day I had satisfied 20k. I then was released from Nong Pal Lai. And immigration said I had overstayed my visa, sent to soi 9, banglamoong, jomtien then IDC and deported.
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@Kieron ******
Are you referring to the 500b a day fine for overstay?

Did you commit a crime while overstaying, or did you overstay because of your detention?
Mimi *******
buddy, what did you do to end up in prison? πŸ˜‚

I'm really interested to know what the conditions were like. Would you like to tell us a bit more about it? Would be great if you tell so that others don't end up like you 😜
Ben ***********
@Mimi ******
mate of mine got locked up for a while for over staying his visa. I mean it was by 10 or 15 yrs. but still..

think he got rumbled when he signed up for anew broadband provider or cell service using his real details
Ben **********
@Mimi ******
watch banged up abroad, most episodes are about dumb chavs in Thailand

"Avin' it large yeah" 🀣🀣🀣

Almost make American tourists look like monks.
Kieron *******
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@Mimi ******
I got much footage from the cells but none from prison. Happy to share some privately but only a couple as media outlets are chatting with me
Darren ********************
@Mimi ******
Just watch A Prayer Before Dawn. Filmed in a real Thai prison with real prisoners πŸ™‚
Iain *********
@Darren *******************
filmed in a museum with actors.
Kieron *******
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@Iain ********
could not get a phone in Thai prison but did in 3 different police cells
Ste *******
Hope so πŸ™
Kieron *******
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@Ste ******
if I told you what happened I doubt you would be under the same opinion.
Nick **********
Talk to an immigration attorney. Not fb
Bryce *******
@Nick *********
What? Are suggesting snarky FB respondents like me don't offer the best advice zero money can buy?
Kieron *******
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@Bryce ******
relax bro, I'm asking a question and I have gained many answers
Nick **********
@Bryce ******
they prob do offer the best free. Advise. Lol.
Kieron *******
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@Nick *********
thanks as embassy was of not much help although DFAT was
Nick **********
@Kieron ******
yeah you'll want to seek personal representation for something like this.
Kieron *******
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@Nick *********
I'm deported and home now man
Nick **********
@Kieron ******
still bro. If you want to come back you should contact an immigration attorney. Even if it's in your home country. Or try to reach out to one in Thailand.
Kieron *******
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@Nick *********
thankyou for the advice bro
Michael ********
They will tell you when sentenced
Kieron *******
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@Michael *******
it was all in Thai and nothing was mentioned about deportation even, although I knew my visa had ran out. Did not think immigration would be waiting for me upon release. I had no translator until the 48th day and she was Russian/english. I am still learning alot of things Thai law is something else. Police can remand you for up to 84 days while investigating and can say they do not wish to proceed after that. Thankfully the judge was good after 48 days. But you are guilty until proven innocent once you disrespect a police officer and they say they need up to 7 weeks = 84 days in Thai law 12 days in a week. It is 2567 there not 2024. If you know mosaics law it's very similar
Ian *****
Hopefully
Kieron *******
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@Ian ****
I'd feel the same if it was different circumstances. I am happy to let you know the whole story but not publicly. I've done many wrong things many years back but them days are long gone. Not everyone in Thailand prisons are guilty, it's just your guilty until proven innocent there. If I had 20k baht in my pocket this would not have been a conversation. I disrespected the Thai police at worse nothing else
Carsten ************
Probably only if you become deported.
Adam ******
@Carsten ***********
it's depends from the court verdict, usually if visa problem bans are 1, 3, 5 and 10 years, if related to criminal case is depending on the criminal law about what crime the court charge you, nothing less nothing more.
Kieron *******
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@Adam *****
the judge asked if I would like to stay in Thailand I said no I wanted to go home to my I'll mother. He said he asked as he would bail me on
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caution money. Thai law is something else, no interpreter until 48th day, 4 weeks is 48 days, guilty until proven innocent basically. I love Thailand not the system some are subjected too
Adam ******
@Kieron ******
I understand this, basicaly this is the most common practice "guilty before proper judgement", however if is possible to get any fine paid is worth it, as this can also clear the ban if judge is ok and don't want to "fuck you up" by his verdict.
Kieron *******
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@Adam *****
he counted 1 day at 500 baht so it was a fine but on passport it says imprisoned for 2 years and 2 months and fines 20k baht. It seems the judge was really good, but immigration and royal Thai police have did the rest. Judge said I had served enough time to pay fine unless I wanted bail and stay I would need another 20k for GPS. But I just wanted to get home
Adam ******
@Kieron ******
is true , fine is based on days which is 500 per day, but can't exceed 20.000 THB this is max fine, can't be more than that even if 100 days of overstay. It's regulated by the Law.
Kieron *******
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@Adam *****
it was a dodgy case of policing, I was walking along Pattaya beach seen an iPhone tried contacting owners and started walking to soi 9. The phone got find my phone app and pinged it to me. I felt I did nothing wrong wouldn't give them baht so they charged me with theft. I have only just found out what all the paperwork means as it was never translated. I will never try and return someone's phone to them again. I had 2 personal phones on me and I was disrespectful to the authorities at soi 9. Not all farangs are rich I've got money but not well off, I regret what's happened but the Thai prisoners showed me more care and humbleness than any farang and I do not know Thai. I will continue to support them now, never forget
Kieron *******
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@Carsten ***********
yes got deported because my visa ran out while in remand
John **********
@Kieron ******
I guess there's 2 things you need to work out

1. Did a prison sentence follow being on remand? If so they would potentially have put you on a blacklist from that

2. If you didn't get a prison sentence how long were you here beyond the period of your visa? That will dictate how long you will be be blacklisted for
Kieron *******
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@John *********
got time served and sentence suspended under constitutional law. My visa ran out on 26th February whilst in Nong Pal Lai I was released on 1st April and then immigration started deportation process
John **********
@Kieron ******
so not long enough to be blacklisted just for the overstay. It's going to be down to what the court said. I see on another thread below you said to the judge you just wanted to go home, he may well have added a blacklist period but it should be in your paperwork
Kieron *******
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@John *********
hope so mate, best to contact Thai embassy I think. On 1st appearance I could not understand anything, paperwork or judge but on the update after 48 days the embassy finally got me a translator. Thankyou for your non judgemental advice, it isn't as it seems. I've done many things I am not proud of decades ago but I was stitched up for this
Carsten ************
@Kieron ******
I would get in touch with some visa agent before trying to enter. Deportation usually is followed by a temporary ban. Not sure about the prison time.
Kieron *******
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@Carsten ***********
thankyou for your advice. I appreciate it
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