...so you don't need a DTV. Why do you want one

A round trip to a local country after you get it is going to be way cheaper than any other option

@Luit ****************

they asked me to indicate how many days ill stay and i put 91. Make of it what you will, this isn't the logic NY embassy used

@Alessandro ********

I believe they forced you to risk all your money on the first stay perhaps? but only that. That's because they won't let you (at least NY embassy) apply months in advance, rather you are allowed to apply only a month before your travels. So this will usually be the point where Airbnb doesn't allow a refund. But I think it also varies by property. Anyway glad things worked out

I can't believe they made you spend probably $9,000 on non-refundable Airbnb bookings when you could very easily be rejected and lose all that money. Thailand has some truly sick obsession with making people gamble large sums to be here. I faced similar coming as a tourist during covid with having to prepay my quarantine hotel and them asking for a booking after... thankfully not demanding any certain length, I was only risking about $1200

@Annie *******

honestly, it's not if you consider America charges 185 USD for it's garbage visa, nothing at the level of a DTV, just a simple tourist visa, and robs tens of thousand if not hundreds of thousands of Mexicans Colombian Chinese Thais etc. of this money year after year after year, many who would have come and spent $3000-10,000 on a vacation or family vacation. Pot, kettle, black etc.

Roberto Stephen it's not about "success", if they issued 180 days visa on arrival that would also be a "huge success". Govt cares about public perception of not having abusive long term residents "owning" the place. In practice that's pretty vague but yeah they always reign stuff in that's too good to be true lol

@Geoff ***********

true. otoh the ed visa for that has existed for decades

@Rob ********

I'm just wondering if they're going to start punishing those who got dtvs later on. It's not without precedent. It was completely within the confines of the law to get covid extensions yet the year after they wanted to punish you for having done it. It's not a country that can be taken seriously! The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing!

I won't need mine until June. I decided I'm confident they'll make it harder and harder to get each year if not cancel it. So I applied immediately- and will use it this year just for a short 90 day stay. yes I lose one year but so what? Later I may not be eligible at all and the Elite visa is way too poor of a value (since I would only stay maybe 18mos total). You should get it this year even if you just come for a week.