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i don't know it if will work but I have obtained a dummy booking from a local travel agent just to show and then the booking is cancelled after 24 hours. But i have never shown that at an airport so i don't know.
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@Todd ********
People like Steve just talk from the top of their hat. He has the money so he can flaunt. If he was wearing the other person's shoes then he would know and probably go down the same rabbit hole as others. How insensitive to other people's feelings and needs. There are agencies that cheat and there are legit agencies too. This goes for anything, not just about visas. Pros and cons in everything. Discretion is important and we all have to do our diligent check before we engage the services of any agency. Todd i have sent you a private message, if you don't mind.
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@Steve *******
you are right each to his own. but here people ask for advice and what was mentioned is he had no deposit money. So please read my comment again. I outlined choices so i don't see your comment in any way relevant to what i had written. Don't be hasty to write you have the deposit money so you can afford to talk. not all have what you have so they are reaching out to ask for the best advice possible.
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@Michael ******
no way around that... retirement visa deposit 800K or marriage deposit 400K. If you don't have the funds, they go through a reliable agent... retirement visa under 20K including multiple entry (which is 4K). marriage visa is more expensive (retirement visa you cannot work, marriage visa you can work but still need to apply for a work permit). If you don't have funds to deposit and you don't want to pay and agent then you have to do the visa run every 90 days.... twice by land and twice by flight. You apply for 60 days and then extend for another 30 day Thailand. This is best to my knowledge and what I know first-hand from a few others who have followed either of these.
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@Steve *******
I don't know from where you got your information but that may be some fraudulent agencies that you have come across. I have come across good ones and I know many who have exited and entered on the retiree visa and had no problems for years now. and the fees are below 20K baht including multiple entry.
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@Ruth ******
to the best of my knowledge no problems coz that is why they have the multiple entry so you can fly in and out with peace of mind. 90 days reporting is only done when you have actually lived in Thailand for 90 CONTINUOUS days. If you fly out of day 89 you don't report and the 90 days cycle only begins from the day you return to Thailand. Put your fears to rest.
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I have read all the comments here. This is my personal experience. I applied for my Non O in Nov 2019 and got my retiree visa in Feb 2020. I had also taken multiple re-entry. Unfortunately, Covid struck so i could leave to go anywhere. But in Feb 2021 I renewed and still took multiple entry. Again, i could not travel out of Thailand. Come Feb 2022, I renewed and again too multiple entry and i flew out in July and again in August (made a trip to Canada). On my return to Canada I went to the immigration office just to double check. The man at the counter told me i had overstayed (even though I told him i had just returned 2 days back) but he insisted i had overstayed and the fine was 2000 baht but he would charge me only 1000 baht. I had to run out and away to find an atm and return with 1000 baht. To my good fortune the man was busy and a lady asked me to give her my passport. I handed it over with the 1000 baht and explained to her what had happened with the other man. She said something to him in Thai. Then she looked my my passport and told me that i don't pay any fine because i left before the 90 days was over and so my 90 days only begins from the day I returned. I told her why that man asked me for 1000 baht. She said he it's ok and just forget it and return before the 90 days is over. I would like to add two things. Please don't consider 90 days as 3 months. 90 days means 90 days. However, they do give you a grace period of 7 days after the 90 days. But i have never waited for that bonus (because in Thailand you never know when the law can change at the drop of a hat). Secondly, It is only 4000 baht for a multiple entry visa so in my case i prefer not to scrounge and do per entry for the simple reason that i may have an emergency and have to leave immediately and may not have time go to go to the immigration to apply for a re-entry. I will mean that my retiree visa will get cancelled and i will only get a normal 30 days entry as regular service (presently it's 45 days but only till March 2023). I have made only 2 trips out of Thailand. But should i make a short trip to nearby ASEAN countries it would be useful even if i made more than 4 trips in a year. There is no need for me to report when i return nor take the TM30 form. When I first came to this Province and did my first 90 reporting, I was given a paper with my residence details and some other details and they stapled it in my passport and told me when i go for my 90 days reporting i just show them that paper. Now almost 2 years in this Province and not a problem at all and i finish in under 10 minutes after paying the fee of 60 baht. for the previous years reporting my agent was charging me 500 baht to do my reporting. I hope this is helpful though it's long reading. You can understand why I did not name my Province. I don't want to cast aspirations on that employee who tried to take 1000 baht from me.
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alternatively, you can do the Savannakhet, Laos crossing. from Muktidahan
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Phil Jones I totally agree. I was on a flight returning from Toronto to BKK. I had a 10.5 hours layover at HK airport. imagine me wearing my ask all through my flight from Toronto to HK, then 10.5 hours at the airport and finally another 3 hours flight to BKK and time to get out of the airport and transport back home in another Province. Keeping that mask on for soooooo long. It was suffocating.