@Ian ******

Visa or visa exempt entry are both ok as long at it gives you enough days for the process. So someone coming from a country that gets less than 60 days visa exempt may not have enough time on a visa exemption to get the process done. They may need a longer tourist VISA. Also, depending where you apply (which immigration office) some may require the 800k deposit to be in the account for 60+ days BEFORE you can apply for the 90day Non-O. If this is the case, they may need more than the 60 day entry plus 30 day extension, and may need to do a border run to get a new entry (likely 60 day visa exempt). This just happened to a friend. He arrived on 60day tourist VISA. took about a week to find a condo, sign a contract, and get the resident letter from the immigration office to open the bank account. Opened the bank account and transferred the funds in from his home bank account, but it took about 5 days to post to his new Thai bank account. When his funds would be in the account for the 60 days required in Jomtien, he wouldn't have the required days remaining on his 30day extension to his 60day tourist visa. They told him he had to exit the country, enter on the new 60 day visa exemption, and then apply for the 90day Non-O. They said no problem to do this and have been very helpful every step of the way in his process. THIS IS IN JOMTIEN AND MAY NOT APPLY IN OTHER IMMIGRATION OFFICES. So it's important to verify the time requirements in the office you intend to apply in. Good luck.

@Alex **********

considering that AirB&B under 30days is illegal, don't plan on getting a TM30 from the owner. Chances are very high that she's not going to file one.

I think you're going to need help from the mods on this one. They're awesome and hopefully can help you figure out the best option for you. I don't think the 60 day visa exempt entry has started yet, but may likely be in place before December. But you may be better off with a Multi Entry Tourist visa. Maybe for each of you, I don't know about how that works with the kids. See what

@Ellie ******

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@Lloyd *******

have to say. Good luck.

Your post isn't very clear regarding your travel plans. Are you planning 90 days in Thailand, and then traveling to other countries? Or do you mean 90 days total, with Thailand as a hub, entering/exiting/re-entering Thailand? This will make a big difference in what you can/can't do, need to do etc.

@Vanida *****

I believe you need to file a TM30 EVERY TIME you re-enter the country.

Some immigration offices may require you to file a new TM30 even if you travel inside the country...depends on your immigration office.

Regardless of what the 90day report reminder email says, your 90day report will be due 89days after you arrive back in the country (the day you arrive counts as day 1).

If you are leaving the country before your 90day report is due, you do not need to file it.

When you return again and re-enter the country, you will need to file a new TM30, and your new 90day window will begin.

If you're still not clear on this, you may want to stop at your local immigration office and ask them for help. Good luck.

@Steve ******

you're probably already aware, but if not, make sure you review the requirements for the Non-OA as they are slightly different from the Non-O.

I believe Non-OA would require you to have a certain amount of approved health insurance, while the Non-O would not. Not sure if there are other differences, but you would want to make sure you're clear on them. Good luck. I'm sure Ellie and the gang can clarify for you. Or search the group for old Non-OA posts.

@Albert ********

I believe 30 or 45 days may vary with each different immigration office. He would need to confirm with his local immigration office.

Just something you might consider...keep a separate account for your 800k balance, or for receiving your monthly 65k. Keep it separate from your spending account. If you're on the monthly income method, after the income comes in you can transfer it over to your spending account once a month. Then you keep the transactions down to maybe 12 transactions a year on your report to immigration - one page. They don't have to sift through all your other transactions so it makes it easy on them to quickly glance at and approve.

Regarding the TM30, you and your wife might want to check with the immigration office near your condo ASAP when you get back.

Or you might ask the owner or property manager to file a new TM30 for you (and ask them to give you a print out of the screen capture that they filed it).

I think technically, if they require you to have a new TM30, it may need to be done within a day or two of arrival. Safe travels.

Maybe ask why they don't have the house book? maybe there's a legit reason? Then maybe go to ask the immigration office if they can write down in Thai what owner docs they need, so you can give that to the property manager. If they can't/won't provide it, I'm not sure what else you can do other than find a condo owner who will provide it.