@Ian *********

It's nothing to do with visa category. Only the LTR specifically excludes it, as this visa is designed for "wealthy foreigners". No chickens have come home to roost with me. I went to my local tax office and got it in writing. If I'd listened to that smarmy tax expert Carl Turner I'd have paid him 10,000 baht to get him to get me a tax ID and to then pay taxes. Fortunately, I was not sucked in like many have been. I got straight from the office who would audit me: No tax ID, no tax return. Nothing to do with visa, all to do with DTA! 👍👍

@Ian *********

You do realise expat retirees have been ignoring it for many many years? The tax office is aware most retirees are on a pension which is exempt taxation in Thailand. Why would they increase their workload by getting these retirees to lodge a tax return with a "0" in the assessable income field?

@Wylie ******

You said you went to the tax office and they said you don't need to file, and then went on to say they don't know what they're doing. Does it matter? If they say you don't need a tax ID, that's the end of the story. I've lived in Thailand for 15 years and every one of those years I've been deemed a "Thai Tax Resident" and yet every one of those years I haven't needed to file a return, because, very simply, I have zero assessable income. I have it in writing so the "consequences" are a big fat zero. How easy is that?

@Wylie ******

If the tax office doesn't want to give you a tax ID why do you push the issue? Why are you so intent on wanting to file a tax return? Sometimes I just can't figure people out

@Matthew ********

I do the same as well as 3-4 international trips each year but I rent a condo in Bangkok which is my base..

@Matthew ********

I read the comments most days, and most complain about items where they've failed to follow the guidelines. I've been here over 15 years, never had a problem. The rules haven't changed. I've always shown a 12-month lease as that's part of the criteria. I don't know what "travel and bounce" is, I'm constantly travelling. I probably spend a total of six months in the condo I'm renting. If your interpretation of travelling is to pack up all your belongings every time you have a trip, it must be hard work for you! I just take one suitcase

@Luigi **********

Money seems to be the major issue. The thing which is changing is there are more cheap and broke foreigners trying to stay in the country. Those of us with means have no problems

@Matthew ********

I don't think foreigners understand what requirements are required for retirement in Thailand. Foreigners somehow believe they're entitled to special treatment

@Jan *****************

He's on a visa exempt entry. Read his original post. He applied for the non-O from within Thailand. You turn up at a bank with a tourism entry of course they're going to turn you away

@Mark *******

I didn't actually say there was, but if a specific immigration office makes it their policy, the applicant then has to provide this. It's not required at Chaengwatthana, but I always attach my annual pension statement in case the tax office ever investigates.