@Robert *******

well . .YOU and ME are neither correct nor incorrect. I have just had an exchange with

@Maxim **********

who is an Immigration volunteer. . . . . . . . .

@Gardar **************************

No, simply being named on a Thai birth certificate does not automatically make you the legal father.

Under Thai law, a child born out-of-wedlock is the mother's legal child, and the foreign biological father needs to go through a formal "legitimation" process, usually by marrying the mother, registering at the Amphur (district office) with her consent, or getting a court order, to gain full parental rights like custody or inheritance.

Why a Name on a Birth Certificate Isn't Enough:

Mother's Automatic Rights: Thai law presumes a child born to an unmarried mother is her legitimate child, granting her sole parental power.

Limited Father's Rights: A foreign father's name on the certificate (often for nationality purposes) doesn't grant legal rights for custody, education, or inheritance in Thailand.

How to Become the Legal Father:

Marriage: Marrying the mother at the time of birth or later automatically legitimizes the child.

Registration (Amphur): Jointly applying with the mother at the local district office for legitimation (child's consent needed if over 7).

Court Order: Filing a petition with the Thai Family Court, especially if the mother doesn't consent or for cases like abduction/seduction.

Why This Matters:

Without legitimation, you can face significant hurdles in making decisions for your child or securing their future in areas like education, inheritance, and even obtaining your own long-term visa related to the child.

@Ian *********

So, you are proven WRONG from the whole Internet 😅😄 but to your defense I must say: In Thailand, processes like this one are not moulded in granite. Amphur office, Immigration and other authorities always have the means to look leeways and decide upon their own interpretation - it is called "up-to-you" on one side, and "corruption" on the other side. This is Thailand for you

@Ian *********

however, as much as I wanted to agree with you : NOW after asking ChatGPT, I have severe doubts! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

No, simply being named on a Thai birth certificate does not automatically make you the legal father.

Under Thai law, a child born out-of-wedlock is the mother's legal child, and the foreign biological father needs to go through a formal "legitimation" process, usually by marrying the mother, registering at the Amphur (district office) with her consent, or getting a court order, to gain full parental rights like custody or inheritance.

Why a Name on a Birth Certificate Isn't Enough:

Mother's Automatic Rights: Thai law presumes a child born to an unmarried mother is her legitimate child, granting her sole parental power.

Limited Father's Rights: A foreign father's name on the certificate (often for nationality purposes) doesn't grant legal rights for custody, education, or inheritance in Thailand.

How to Become the Legal Father:

Marriage: Marrying the mother at the time of birth or later automatically legitimizes the child.

Registration (Amphur): Jointly applying with the mother at the local district office for legitimation (child's consent needed if over 7).

Court Order: Filing a petition with the Thai Family Court, especially if the mother doesn't consent or for cases like abduction/seduction.

Why This Matters:

Without legitimation, you can face significant hurdles in making decisions for your child or securing their future in areas like education, inheritance, and even obtaining your own long-term visa related to the child.

@Ian *********

ah well this WOULD explain a lot. He can get the visa in Vientiane with the birth certificate, but he cannot get the 12-months extension based on this certificate on Immigration. VERY irrational, the mind boggles. . . . . but please, keep on reading what I am saying 😎😄

@Maxim **********

maybe that's why Thai people need electronic calculators to add 14 to 60 . . . and the Immigration officers are all the same - incapable of counting ?

@Maxim **********

that's very sad to hear. . . .it means that they are preventing REAL tourists from entering. People who don't have the slightest intention of misusing the visa exempt system. IF officially (!!) two exempt entries are allowed and two extensions, per running year, which is 60+30 and 60+7 = 157 days of stay, then WHY would they not allow real tourists 6 visa exempt entries for a 14 days holiday stay each, and every time? The total amount would be only 84 days within one year . .. it is a shame, it is irrational. They are able to see the total days on their Central Computer, every traveller has a profile in their computer showing all relevant data and previous entries. Why would they deliberately keep REAL tourists out of Thailand instead of welcoming them for several holidays throughout the year ? The mind boggles

@Michael *******

with which document did you prove for the Vientiane embassy that you are the father? If it was the cild's birth certificate, this would be really laughable, because a mother at birth, can name any male person as being the alleged father, it needn't be the "real" father. So a birth certificate alone, normally should not bear any weight, but certain embassies and Immigration offices seem to not give a royal f... about it

@Andrew *******

Facts are FACTS. . . . . . .He is not married to the mother, thus he doesn't have any automatic parental rights and cannot apply for the Non-O Family Visa.

Even with his name on the birth certificate, he normally still needs a Thai Family Court order or an Amphur registration and acknowledgement, to be the legal father of the child

It also can depend on the age of the kid, to get legal paternal rights.

Some people claim they were able to get registered as the legal father on the Amphur, even when they were NOT married to the mother, as long as the child is under 5 years old. I strongly doubt these reports or a “got lost in translation”. You would need to be married to the mother.

Without an acknowledged marriage and the Kor Ror 22 or 2 (whichever applies)

OR

the Amphur or Thai Family Court issued document that acknowledges his paternal rights,

he can’t apply neither for the Non-Imm-O Family Visa, nor for the 1-year Extension

Lavender Smiles You are WRONG! . . . . He is not married to the mother, thus he doesn't have any automatic parental rights and cannot apply for the Non-O Family Visa and the subsequent 1-year Extension.

Even with his name on the birth certificate, he normally still needs a Thai Family Court order or an Amphur registration and acknowledgement, to be the legal father of the child

It also can depend on the age of the kid, to get legal paternal rights.

Some people claim they were able to get registered as the legal father on the Amphur, even when they were NOT married to the mother, as long as the child is under 5 years old. I strongly doubt these reports or a “got lost in translation”. You would need to be married to the mother.

Without an acknowledged marriage and the Kor Ror 22 or 2 (whichever applies)

OR

the Amphur or Thai Family Court issued document that acknowledges his paternal rights,

he can’t apply neither for the Non-Imm-O Family Visa, nor for the 1-year Extension

It is YOU who is spreading disinformation. Stop this immediately.