@Robert ******
that's fair enough, but in this case you've got it a little wrong. You also seem to consistently try to dissuade people from getting a DTV. If the embassy will grant me a 5 year DTV then I'm going to go for that. It's up to the embassy to choose whether I or anyone else gets it. And so long as I do what I said I would do on my application then no problem. You seem to be projecting northern European ideals and wishes onto Thailand. Like your body is in Thailand, but your mind is still back in Europe. If you think I'm wrong then we can continue this discussion in Thai and we will see.