Answered8 months ago
Is there only one DTV visa in Thailand, or are there different types allowing remote work?
My beloved friend claims there are several DTV visas: DTV1, DTV2, and DTV3. And only the first one allows remote work. As far as I know, and as confirmed by AI, there's only one DTV visa. And no matter what basis you receive the DTV visa, it entitles you to remote work. Is my colleague wrong or is AI wrong?
Let's summarize.
Based on the comments of people who deal with visas daily, we already know few things.
1. AI was right, friend was wrong
2.The DTV visa is just one of three reasons to visit Thailand. Regardless of the reason for your visit, the DTV visa, also obtained under softpowers, ALLOWS YOU TO WORK REMOTELY.
3. ON OTHER VISAS, WITHOUT WORK PERMIT, YOU CANNOT LEGALLY WORK REMOTELY. Be warned, some trolls claim that even with a visa exemption, you can work remotely. DON'T LISTEN TO THE TROLLS. There are cases of arrests and deportations for working remotely without permission.
Let's summarize.
Based on the comments of people who deal with visas daily, we already know few things.
1. AI was right, friend was wrong
2.The DTV visa is just one of three reasons to visit Thailand. Regardless of the reason for your visit, the DTV visa, also obtained under softpowers, ALLOWS YOU TO WORK REMOTELY.
3. ON OTHER VISAS, WITHOUT WORK PERMIT, YOU CANNOT LEGALLY WORK REMOTELY. Be warned, some trolls claim that even with a visa exemption, you can work remotely. DON'T LISTEN TO THE TROLLS. There are cases of arrests and deportations for working remotely without permission.
Answer summary
The discussion centers on the validity of claims regarding the Destination Thailand Visa (DTV). One party asserts there are multiple types (DTV1, DTV2, DTV3), with only DTV1 allowing remote work, while others argue there is only one DTV visa that permits remote work regardless of the application basis. Comments reveal confusion regarding immigration regulations, where it is suggested that DTV holders can work remotely, but enforcement and understanding vary widely among individuals and even immigration officers. Most seem to agree on the necessity to adhere strictly to the visa's specific regulations to avoid legal troubles.
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Johnny *************
Ha there’s just one dtv but many ways to obtain it
Deslea ********
Just so you know, it is absolutely possible in Thailand to have one visa but different conditions for different subcategories. For instance, the LTR visa has a wealthy global citizen category that is allowed to work, and a wealthy pensioner category that isn’t allowed to work. The fact that they’re all called DTV does not mean anything in terms of rules carried over between them. It’s better to think of DTV as “descriptor for a few new visas all launched at the same time.”
Brandon ************
@Deslea *******
I don't think I would qualify the LTR under the same general category as DTV, because there are actually different LTR visas. The stamp in my passport clearly shows which LTR I have, because it's an LTR-XX. The letters after the LTR- indicate what type of LTR you have.Whereas with a DTV, there is nothing except a DTV. Regardless of how you apply, you just get a DTV.
James *******
Who cares to work legally or not when working online ?
Anonymous ******************
Never take any of the AI word for anything. They are wrong all the time, and they often guess. Always ask multiple follow ups to verify the info. I can’t tell you how many times they’ve lied bc they didn’t actually look up the info they completely guessed.
DTV_Be*******
I am curious, what is AI referencing here when it says you can work? When I ask, the references are all from Facebook posts
RoadtoHappiness ****
DTV_BegPecker yes you can work remotely on DTV visa. And it's only visa what you can work remotely without work permit.
DTV_Be*******
@RoadtoHappiness ***
- That isn’t the question I asked. The OP keeps pasting a screenshot of an AI conversation as evidence. Just want to see what is the links for AI’s conclusions. I personally think you can work remotely even if you applied for soft power. However, there is no real documentation one way or the other that says anything for or against.
John **********
DTV_BegPecker that's the problem, and no official sources will answer the question one way or the other, even the MFA that introduced the visa. Which kind of implies you can interpret it in any way you want, but conversely so can others such as immigration. It's something that needs addressing by the authorities coming up with a clear definition.
RoadtoHappiness ****
DTV_BegPecker AI is sometimes correct, sometimes hallucinating.
Better to check twice.
Better to check twice.
Sase ******
CONTACT YOUR RESPECTIVE EMBASY YOU LAZY BUM
Greg ***********
so, according to Mason Moore and Michael Villin, the Royal Thai embassy is telling lies ??
Luit *****************
@Greg **********
with @Mason ******
and @Michael *******
you just mention the two biggest comedians in this group, don't pay to much attention to them if you need reliable info.And allthough embassy information is not always correct, it is at least more reliable.
Ivan ************
@Gr**
and here's an embassy that told a soft power applicant that is was OK to work as long as it wasn't for a Thai company. Embassies don't know this stuff and are not consistent.RoadtoHappiness ****
@Ivan ***********
you trying to talk with a troll, be careful.Greg ***********
@Ivan ***********
I know two people who got their DTV from the Thai Embassy in Phnom Penh before the e-visa system was introduced. They both planned to work remotely and asked the embassy if a soft power DTV for cooking classes would be sufficient. The answer was NO. Thus, they both applied for the workation DTV insteadGreg ***********
@Ivan ***********
exactly . . you meet the same inconsistency when you ask different Immigration officers about how often within a year you can enter visa-exempt and how long you can stay. You can expect different explanationsIvan ************
@Gr**
right, so inconsistent answers depending on which embassy you ask.
CleverRa********
If chatgpt tells you to drink gasoline are you going to try that too?
RoadtoHappiness ****
CleverRadish5177 didn't you try?
CleverRa********
@RoadtoHappiness ***
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Greg ***********
I can see a troll at work. A troll named Michael Villin whose profile is locked, he wants to explain the world to us.
This troll by the name of Michael Villin, for me as long as he hides his profile, he is a NOBODY.
YOU, the reader, is confronted by all these nebulous claims uttered by this troll Michael Villin, sadly followed by a good number of other half-witted clowns who don’t know any better.
Just take a minute and think about it.
In case you can work remotely, you can apply for the DTV based on workation.
The clowns claim that you can also work remotely on the “soft power DTV” and the “dependent spouse DTV”.
LET ME ASK you: why would you be so stupid and book a soft power course and pay extra money, if you already fulfill the requirement to apply for a DTV based on being a digital nomad?
Now pray and please tell me – WHY would you pay a course fee of 40,000 THB or 60,000 Baht, and even more, for a Cooking Course or a Muay Thai course or a massage course on a beautiful beach where you get thought on how to deliver a hand to your customer, excluding the happy ending?
*** You can get the DTV for workation based on you working remotely. WHY would you book a Muay Thai course? You could train Muay Thai whenever you want, unrelated to your DTV.
WHY WOULD YOU THROW AWAY MONEY FOR A MUAY THAI COURSE when you can apply based on your remote work?
Michael Villin - please get a life. Do not bog us down with totally needless questions
This troll by the name of Michael Villin, for me as long as he hides his profile, he is a NOBODY.
YOU, the reader, is confronted by all these nebulous claims uttered by this troll Michael Villin, sadly followed by a good number of other half-witted clowns who don’t know any better.
Just take a minute and think about it.
In case you can work remotely, you can apply for the DTV based on workation.
The clowns claim that you can also work remotely on the “soft power DTV” and the “dependent spouse DTV”.
LET ME ASK you: why would you be so stupid and book a soft power course and pay extra money, if you already fulfill the requirement to apply for a DTV based on being a digital nomad?
Now pray and please tell me – WHY would you pay a course fee of 40,000 THB or 60,000 Baht, and even more, for a Cooking Course or a Muay Thai course or a massage course on a beautiful beach where you get thought on how to deliver a hand to your customer, excluding the happy ending?
*** You can get the DTV for workation based on you working remotely. WHY would you book a Muay Thai course? You could train Muay Thai whenever you want, unrelated to your DTV.
WHY WOULD YOU THROW AWAY MONEY FOR A MUAY THAI COURSE when you can apply based on your remote work?
Michael Villin - please get a life. Do not bog us down with totally needless questions
Greg ***********
fair question
Mason *******
@Greg **********
Some people started working remotely after they got the visa, clown. No need to reapply.Greg ***********
@Mason ******
your insult got reportedGreg ***********
I can see trolls at work.
YOU, the reader, are confronted by all these nebulous claims uttered by Michael Villin and a good number of other half-witted clowns.
Just take a minute and think about:
In case you can work remotely, you can apply for the DTV based on workation.
The clowns claim that you can also work remotely on the “soft power DTV” and the “dependent spouse DTV”.
LET ME ASK you: why would you be so stupid and book a soft power course, if you already fulfill the requirement to apply for a DTV based on being a digital nomad?
Now pray and please tell me – WHY would you pay the fee of 40,000 THB, 60,000 Baht, and and more, for a Cooking Course or a Muay Thai course or a course for absolute dvmbf.cks?
*** You can get the DTV for workation based on you working remotely. WHY would you book a Muay Thai course? You could train Muay Thai whenever you want, unrelated to your DTV.
WHY WOULD YOU THROW AWAY MONEY FOR A MUAY THAI COURSE when you can apply based on your remote work?
Michael Villin – Wake up! You are CONTRADICTING your assumptions
YOU, the reader, are confronted by all these nebulous claims uttered by Michael Villin and a good number of other half-witted clowns.
Just take a minute and think about:
In case you can work remotely, you can apply for the DTV based on workation.
The clowns claim that you can also work remotely on the “soft power DTV” and the “dependent spouse DTV”.
LET ME ASK you: why would you be so stupid and book a soft power course, if you already fulfill the requirement to apply for a DTV based on being a digital nomad?
Now pray and please tell me – WHY would you pay the fee of 40,000 THB, 60,000 Baht, and and more, for a Cooking Course or a Muay Thai course or a course for absolute dvmbf.cks?
*** You can get the DTV for workation based on you working remotely. WHY would you book a Muay Thai course? You could train Muay Thai whenever you want, unrelated to your DTV.
WHY WOULD YOU THROW AWAY MONEY FOR A MUAY THAI COURSE when you can apply based on your remote work?
Michael Villin – Wake up! You are CONTRADICTING your assumptions
Sam ******
@Greg **********
"LET ME ASK you: why would you be so stupid and book a soft power course, if you already fulfill the requirement to apply for a DTV based on being a digital nomad?"Because it's very possible to work remotely and still not satisfy the application requirements for workcation. You need to have been doing it for a signicant length of time, for example. If you've only been doing it a few months then your documents won't be sufficient.
Nongnuch ********
@Michael *******
I found this post in the DTV group. This is a reply to the same question, by the Royal Thai Embassy Berlin, Germany. Don't let yourself get confused by the wording "that's the theory" which is a bad direct translation from a German slogan. It actually means "that's the common understanding" . . . . . .you could also check Reddit, there are a few related topics, and the replies are *****
. On Reddit, you can find Robert Lagas, an Immigration Volunteer, quoting that your AI research is nonsense. So, it is 2:0 in favour for Greg Alexander.Greg ***********
you are only allowed to remotely work under the DTV1. If you have been issued the DTV2 (soft power) or the DTV3 (spousal visa), you are NOT allowed to work inside Thailand, regardless if remotely or actively. For an active work inside Thailand, you need the Non-Imm-B Visa and a work permit. As long as you cannot show me an OFFICIAL Thai Government or Embassy or Immigration text that explicitly allows it, I tend to believe that it remains questionable or probably even forbidden. To ask AI can get you really BAD info, because AI is fishing in a large pool full of wrong info, and comes up with wrong info because the stvpid majority in FB groups posted rubbish
Greg ***********
There is no article that says “Soft Power DTV holders may work remotely” because Thai law does not grant permissions that way." . . .
So, the law does not grant permission BUT Michael Villin does grant you permission, he probably makes the law for the Thai Royal Gazette, what a joke it is 😂😂
So, the law does not grant permission BUT Michael Villin does grant you permission, he probably makes the law for the Thai Royal Gazette, what a joke it is 😂😂
Simon **********
If you understand how A.I works. A.I hallucinates and gets things wrong. There is no such thing as confirmed by A.I. you will need immigration for any type of confirmation. Even by your answer here The recommendations it gives, none are working. Mua Thai is technicality education. Medical treatment is not work and so on. You can work remotely (digital Nomad), restricted freelance work. That's about it.
Simon **********
If you understand how A.I works. A.I hallucinates and gets things wrong. There is no such thing as confirmed by A.I. you will need immigration for any type of confirmation. Even by your answer here The recommendations it gives, none are working. Mua Thai is technicality education. Medical treatment is not work and so on.
Nongnuch ********
"My beloved friend claims there are several DTV visas: DTV1, DTV2, and DTV3. And only the first one allows remote work. As far as I know, and as confirmed by AI, there's only one DTV visa. And no matter what basis you receive the DTV visa, it entitles you to remote work. Is my colleague wrong or is AI wrong?". . . . . . . . your colleague is right and AI is (as usual!) wrong
Greg ********
Define medical treatment please
John *****
I contacted Siam Legal and they say that remote work for clients who are not connected with Thailand is permitted on soft power.
McGlenda ********
People are arguing back and forth go to the THAI goverment site and READ the information for YOURself...uugg
John *****
@McGlenda *******
I've never quite been able to find an answer on any websites I've found, but I contacted Siam Legal and they said remote work for clients not connected with Thailand is permitted so that will do me. Yes, should have done that earlier. Quicker than the back and forth.Brandon ************
@McGlenda *******
if it was that simple, we wouldn't have posts like this. But it's not posted. Please show us where since you say it's that easy.McGlenda ********
@Brandon ***********
it is posted clear as day on the Thailand Government site. im not going bk and forth with anyone.Google the information.Brandon ************
@McGlenda *******
liar
Vir *******
Who cares what it says? You are not working for a Thai company.
You are not a Thai citizen. It's foreign sourced income.
It's not their business or their money even if they try to claim otherwise.
Also, never volunteer information.
You are not a Thai citizen. It's foreign sourced income.
It's not their business or their money even if they try to claim otherwise.
Also, never volunteer information.
Luit *****************
@Vir ******
As soon as you work in Thailand it is their bussiness, regardless of the company is Thai or not and where or even if you get paid.Vir *******
@Luit ****************
if you want to be a bootlicker for the the Thai people and government you go right ahead, but please do not invite other people to join you.Luit *****************
@Vir ******
I not give any opinion of this Thai law, it is just as it is.I just warn about possible problems if you don't know the rules.
John *****
I agree, but we all know AI is often completely wrong so we should never use it as a source. E.g. calling a chimpanzee a gorilla, saying that Fury and Joshua have fought etc etc.
John *****
One visa with one set of rules and 3 different reasons they'll grant it. Simple. (Hopefully)
Bart ********
There is only one type of DTV visa. And you can work remotely.
Greg ***********
Bart Magera you cannot work remotely if you have been issued a DTV type that was applied for with soft power activity and dependent spouse. While the visa document says just "DTV", actually there are three types of DTV depending on three different purposes. Thai Immigration knows exactly which type of Destination Thailand Visa (DTV) you were issued, including the purpose (e.g., remote work, medical treatment, or cultural activities), as this data is linked to your passport upon scanning.
The e-Visa system shares application details directly with immigration, allowing officers to verify your specific visa type upon entry. In case you got a DTV based on soft power, and they catch you working remotely, you are facing a big problem
The e-Visa system shares application details directly with immigration, allowing officers to verify your specific visa type upon entry. In case you got a DTV based on soft power, and they catch you working remotely, you are facing a big problem
ArticulateS***********
@Greg **********
you’ve said this 100 times on this thread. Where is the proof from an official Thai Government website that you can only work online with a “DTV 1”? Simple answer…there isn’t any.Greg ***********
ArticulateSquirrel3605 In Thailand, rules stating that you cannot do something often do not explicitly exist. This gives authorities flexibility when the time comes. So yes, some may say you can, others may say you cannot. But in the end, you would need to find an official source stating clearly whether you can or cannot in order to have a definite legal answer. As another person said, make it official during your application and if you're approved, then you've a legal excuse.
Greg ***********
ArticulateSquirrel3605 okay, go ask an Immigration officer if you do not believe me. But ask the headquarter in Bangkok, not some backwater sheriff
Bart ********
@Greg **********
This couldn't be further from the truth. If you have a job or business outside of Thailand you can work within the country freely.Greg ***********
Bart Magera There is no article that says “Soft Power DTV holders may work remotely” because Thai law does not grant permissions that way." . . .
So the law does not grant permission BUT Michael Villin does grant you permission, he probybly makes the law for the Thai Royal Gazette, what a joke it is 😂😂
So the law does not grant permission BUT Michael Villin does grant you permission, he probybly makes the law for the Thai Royal Gazette, what a joke it is 😂😂
Greg ***********
Bart Magera you are WRONG! You are not allowed to work remotely on a DTV that got issued for soft power or spouse
Michael ********
OP@Greg **********
Lots of people scolded and criticized you, but you still do what you do. Is this some kind of disease?John *****
There is one DTV and a few different ways to get it. It is possible that when extending or even perhaps very occasionally on entry that immigration check that you are doing what you said you would do when applying for the visa.
Tho *****
There's nothing special about the DTV regarding remote work.
Greg ***********
Why don’t YOU ALL ask Immigration, before you slam my knowledge?
My question to the Immigration office is:
“Does Thai Immigration know which type of DTV you got issued according to the purpose”
ANSWER:
*** Thai Immigration knows exactly which type of Destination Thailand Visa (DTV) you were issued, including the purpose (e.g., remote work, medical treatment, or cultural activities), as this data is linked to your passport upon scanning.
The e-Visa system shares application details directly with immigration, allowing officers to verify your specific visa type upon entry.
*** Key Details Regarding DTV and Immigration:
*** Instant Access: Upon scanning your passport, officials know you are a DTV holder eligible for a 180-day stay.
*** Purpose Visibility: The specific purpose for which your DTV was issued is visible, as it is part of the application details provided during the e-Visa process.
*** Recommendation: While they have the data, it is still recommended to carry a printout of your e-Visa to prevent IO errors and ensure you receive the correct 180-day stamp.
*** Interaction: Immigration officers may still ask questions, even if they have the details, but usually, the process is quick.
*** When entering, it is essential to ensure the officer stamps you for the correct 180-day duration.
My question to the Immigration office is:
“Does Thai Immigration know which type of DTV you got issued according to the purpose”
ANSWER:
*** Thai Immigration knows exactly which type of Destination Thailand Visa (DTV) you were issued, including the purpose (e.g., remote work, medical treatment, or cultural activities), as this data is linked to your passport upon scanning.
The e-Visa system shares application details directly with immigration, allowing officers to verify your specific visa type upon entry.
*** Key Details Regarding DTV and Immigration:
*** Instant Access: Upon scanning your passport, officials know you are a DTV holder eligible for a 180-day stay.
*** Purpose Visibility: The specific purpose for which your DTV was issued is visible, as it is part of the application details provided during the e-Visa process.
*** Recommendation: While they have the data, it is still recommended to carry a printout of your e-Visa to prevent IO errors and ensure you receive the correct 180-day stamp.
*** Interaction: Immigration officers may still ask questions, even if they have the details, but usually, the process is quick.
*** When entering, it is essential to ensure the officer stamps you for the correct 180-day duration.
Mason *******
@Luit ****************
You've got a very overactive imagination Luit. I bet you have wild dreams, goodnight.Luit *****************
@Mason ******
So just like some other trolls you are too stupid to spell a name correct, or is that the proof you use just different accounts for trolling.Why the quote, it does not support your shouting nonsense.
Mason *******
Luit van der Linde You've been falsely claiming for ages the DTV application info is in the Immigration database. Wrong 😆
Luit *****************
@Mason ******
I only say there is more info in their system than what is on your PDF.I know reading can be difficult with limited brain capacity, but I strongly advise you to try, because now you make only foolish remarks about things that are never said.
I would prefer you not telling I falsely claiming things I never said.
Don't put words in my mouth I never said.
So in this case you are completely wrong as usual.
Sky ***************
@Greg **********
we did ask some immigration officer, here we are what we gotLuit *****************
@Sky **************
The immigration officer you asked not says "we", but says "immigration officers" when you ask?Mason *******
Luit van der Linde Is all the information in the system Luit 😆
Sky ***************
@Luit ****************
You can contact any immigration office and get your own answer. If you ask Thai immigration to respond in English, you will usually receive a general answer translated through Google Translate.Sky ***************
@Luit ****************
The question was not only about the immigration office, but also about international airports and land borders. The request was to answer in English, not in Thai, because he knew the response would be screenshotted and posted on Facebook.Greg ***********
@Sky **************
do you not realize how contradicting this rubbish is? "The Immigration officer is able to identify the purpose of the DTV but he cannot see the purpose of your DTV in his computer" . . ????? . . . laughable. That is so typical for all that AI rubbishSky ***************
@Greg **********
don't expect magic. They can see all your previous visa history records in the system - entries, extensions, overstays. All that was recorded by Immigration Bureau Royal Thai Police department. They cannot see full information from other government offices. Thai Embassies are under MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS.Michael ********
OP@Greg **********
you're the one who should ask the immigration and stop fooling yourselfYou're still thinking that there are three DTV visas right? You definitely should ask immigration bureau.
Greg ***********
@Michael *******
now you start to lie . . . . I never said that there are three DTV. . . . see, you are putting words into my mouth which I never said 😎. . . . I said, there are three different TYPES of the DTV - for different purposes.RoadtoHappiness ****
@Greg **********
yes and every purpose get the same visa with the same privileges. You can work remotely on DTV visa. End of story.Sky ***************
The Destination Thailand Visa (DTV) is one visa type, not three separate visas.
On the official Thai e-visa system of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Thailand (thaievisa.go.th), the application form clearly shows:
Visa Type: DTV (Destination Thailand Visa)
Purpose of Visit: a dropdown with three options
Those options are:
Workcation (digital nomad / remote worker / freelancer)
Thai soft power activities (Muay Thai, culinary training, medical treatment, etc.)
Dependents (spouse and children under 20 of a DTV holder)
This means they are different purposes of visit within the same DTV visa, not separate visa types.
On the official Thai e-visa system of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Thailand (thaievisa.go.th), the application form clearly shows:
Visa Type: DTV (Destination Thailand Visa)
Purpose of Visit: a dropdown with three options
Those options are:
Workcation (digital nomad / remote worker / freelancer)
Thai soft power activities (Muay Thai, culinary training, medical treatment, etc.)
Dependents (spouse and children under 20 of a DTV holder)
This means they are different purposes of visit within the same DTV visa, not separate visa types.
Mason *******
@Luit ****************
So tonight you've learned there's not 3 different DTVs. And Immigration don't have the application info in the system. Time for bed I think. 😆RoadtoHappiness ****
@Mason ******
he just can't, trolls feed on spam and sowing arguments.Luit *****************
@RoadtoHappiness ***
YTroll, why should somebody show a visa to highly suspicious facebook accounts?Mason *******
@RoadtoHappiness ***
He's been trolling on here for over a year now. Banging on about imaginary rules and all the information is the system.Mason *******
@RoadtoHappiness ***
He won't see it. So many people have blocked him for this trolling.RoadtoHappiness ****
@Mason ******
do you know if I will block him, he will still be able spread his bs if I create a topic? Or he will not see it?Luit *****************
@Sky **************
And the MFA document describing all visa types has 3 DTV visa types.Mason *******
@Luit ****************
What's taking you so long boy?Mason *******
@Luit ****************
A DTV. You're welcome.Mason *******
@Luit ****************
To prove your imaginary claim you clownMason *******
@Luit ****************
Then show us your DTV1 Luit 😆RoadtoHappiness ****
@Mason ******
he is same guy what greg and legas probably.
Corrado ********
The main problem is that I have a 5 years digital nomad DTV VISA but no bank allows me to open an account because for them it is like a long term tourist VISA. Stupid things... of course are not.... so my money stays in Italy
Wannikea *********
Corrado Prever The nature of a nomad is to keep on moving
Corrado ********
maybe
Corrado ********
Corrado ********
im here with digital nomad DTV and work on my own business located in Italy
Sky ***************
The Destination Thailand Visa (DTV) is one visa type, but it has different categories (purposes of visit).
According to official Thai Embassy information, the DTV can be issued for three categories:
DTV1 – Workcation (digital nomads, remote workers, freelancers).
DTV2 – Thai soft power activities (Muay Thai, Thai cooking, medical treatment, etc.).
DTV3 – Dependents (spouse and children under 20 of a DTV holder).
These are not separate visas, but categories within the same DTV visa, which is a 5-year multiple-entry visa.
The numbers (DTV1, DTV2, DTV3) are simply internal labels used by embassies to show different purposes and document requirements, not different visa types.
Official website that stated this information:
According to official Thai Embassy information, the DTV can be issued for three categories:
DTV1 – Workcation (digital nomads, remote workers, freelancers).
DTV2 – Thai soft power activities (Muay Thai, Thai cooking, medical treatment, etc.).
DTV3 – Dependents (spouse and children under 20 of a DTV holder).
These are not separate visas, but categories within the same DTV visa, which is a 5-year multiple-entry visa.
The numbers (DTV1, DTV2, DTV3) are simply internal labels used by embassies to show different purposes and document requirements, not different visa types.
Official website that stated this information:
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Sky ***************
If visa DTV 1 and DTV 2 and DTV 3 immigration office should specify in visa extension? But if visa just only ONE DTV they don't ?
Luit *****************
@Sky **************
With this "label" logic non-o marriage and non-o retirement are also the same visa type, just different categories.Different purposes of stay and different requirenents and different "label" sounds to me as different visa.
That there are certain "groups" of visa with some similar properties does not make it the same visa type.
But in fact the discuasion is irrelevant here, it is just a name.
When you call DTV1 not a type, but a label, then remote work is only allowed by DTV1 label.
Mason *******
@Luit ****************
Show us your DTV1 and prove your point! You silly man.
Sky ***************
This screen is from the official Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom of Thailand website for the Destination Thailand Visa (DTV) application. It is the step where the applicant selects the purpose of visit.
Visa Type
DTV (Destination Thailand Visa)
A long-stay visa designed for people who want to stay in Thailand for remote work, learning Thai cultural activities, or accompanying a DTV holder.
Purpose of Visit Options
Spouse and children under 20 years old of DTV visa holders
For family members of a person who already has a DTV visa.
Includes legal spouse and children under 20 years old.
They apply as dependents.
Thai soft power-related activities
For people coming to Thailand to participate in cultural or professional programs connected with Thai culture.
Examples include:
Muay Thai training
Thai cooking schools
Wellness programs
Medical treatment
Cultural education or workshops
Workcation (digital nomad / remote worker / freelancer)
For people who work remotely for companies or clients outside Thailand.
Includes:
Digital nomads
Freelancers
Remote employees
Foreign talent working online
Visa Type
DTV (Destination Thailand Visa)
A long-stay visa designed for people who want to stay in Thailand for remote work, learning Thai cultural activities, or accompanying a DTV holder.
Purpose of Visit Options
Spouse and children under 20 years old of DTV visa holders
For family members of a person who already has a DTV visa.
Includes legal spouse and children under 20 years old.
They apply as dependents.
Thai soft power-related activities
For people coming to Thailand to participate in cultural or professional programs connected with Thai culture.
Examples include:
Muay Thai training
Thai cooking schools
Wellness programs
Medical treatment
Cultural education or workshops
Workcation (digital nomad / remote worker / freelancer)
For people who work remotely for companies or clients outside Thailand.
Includes:
Digital nomads
Freelancers
Remote employees
Foreign talent working online
Peter *********
to the OP - AI lies ....
RoadtoHappiness ****
Peter Chapman no AI was right this case
Sky ***************
If work online not allowed for Soft Power DTV purpose of visit why nowadays Thai Embassies requests from all our students to proof them online work outside of Thailand and this is became mandatory.
Michael ********
OP@Sky **************
don't talk with him, it's troll.Sky ***************
Maybe this happening because for officials it's one type of visa. And Soft Power it's more easy still to apply, but still almost 80% who becomes our students it's digital nomads who working online as programmers, influencers, marketing managers, freelancers ets.
Anonymous ******************
My DTV was obtained in person before it changed to all e-visa under the soft power medical route. I was asked during an interview with the supervising officer if I currently worked and I said no, but I will be seeking online work at some point during the visa validity. The visa officers reply was “ok, that is fine just remember you cannot work for a Thai company, and remember to make sure your work follows the rules for DTV employment”. Nothing about the need to reapply for a new DTV when getting one!
RoadtoHappiness ****
Anonymous participant 562 yes it's true. Unfortunately we don't have moderator in this group that's why many trolls can spread their bs.
Sky ***************
Below is the clearest, most accurate, and fact-based explanation of how the DTV visa works:
✅ 1. DTV VISA — ONE visa, but THREE different grounds (purpose of visit)
DTV is a single visa with one set of rules, but at the time of application you must choose one of three reasons for entry:
Family (spouse/children of a DTV holder)
Thai Soft Power–related activities
Workcation (digital nomad / remote worker / freelancer)
These are not three different visas — they are three subcategories within the same visa.
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✅ 2. Can Workcation and Soft Power be combined at the application stage to increase approval chances?
Officially, you can select only one primary reason for entry.
The e-Visa system does not allow selecting both Workcation and Soft Power at the same time.
✔️ However, you can strengthen your application:
If you apply under Soft Power, you are allowed to additionally attach documents proving your remote income and activity as a digital nomad / remote worker / freelancer.
This makes the application stronger and helps it stand out among other DTV applications.
📌 Important: Documents can be combined only when applying under Soft Power.
If you choose Workcation, you cannot add Soft Power documents.
The embassy always reviews only the main category selected in the application, and all checks and additional document requests are based on that category.
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✅ 3. If the visa was obtained under Workcation, can you later enter Thailand under Soft Power?
✔️ Yes, you can.
The reason for entry during subsequent arrivals does not have to match the reason used when applying for the visa.
Why this works:
DTV is a long-term, multiple-entry visa valid for 5 years.
It allows entry for any purpose that falls within the DTV framework.
At border control, officers do not compare your current reason for entry with the original application category.
So:
📌 Visa issued as Workcation → you may enter under Soft Power.
This is often even beneficial because:
Soft Power is easier to understand and raises fewer questions from officers.
Muay Thai courses, culinary courses, or medical treatment are clear and respected reasons.
The key point is to have real proof of booking or participation to show if requested.
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✅ 4. Can Soft Power be used for an EASIER extension at immigration?
✔️ Yes — this is a real and effective strategy.
A 180-day DTV extension inside Thailand is based on your actual reason for stay.
If you show:
a contract with a Muay Thai school, or
a booking at a Thai culinary school, or
a medical treatment program,
then extending under Soft Power is:
➜ easier, cleaner, and raises far fewer questions.
Why Soft Power is easier:
Immigration can easily verify and understand the purpose of stay.
No need to prove freelance income, clients, or work contracts.
It is an officially government-supported direction.
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⚠️ Final answers in ultra-short format:
1. One visa, different purposes — yes.
2. Combining Soft Power with Workcation at application — yes, but only when applying under Soft Power.
3. Got Workcation → can enter under Soft Power — yes.
4. Extending a DTV Workcation via Soft Power (e.g. Muay Thai or cooking) — yes, and it’s easier.
✅ 1. DTV VISA — ONE visa, but THREE different grounds (purpose of visit)
DTV is a single visa with one set of rules, but at the time of application you must choose one of three reasons for entry:
Family (spouse/children of a DTV holder)
Thai Soft Power–related activities
Workcation (digital nomad / remote worker / freelancer)
These are not three different visas — they are three subcategories within the same visa.
---
✅ 2. Can Workcation and Soft Power be combined at the application stage to increase approval chances?
Officially, you can select only one primary reason for entry.
The e-Visa system does not allow selecting both Workcation and Soft Power at the same time.
✔️ However, you can strengthen your application:
If you apply under Soft Power, you are allowed to additionally attach documents proving your remote income and activity as a digital nomad / remote worker / freelancer.
This makes the application stronger and helps it stand out among other DTV applications.
📌 Important: Documents can be combined only when applying under Soft Power.
If you choose Workcation, you cannot add Soft Power documents.
The embassy always reviews only the main category selected in the application, and all checks and additional document requests are based on that category.
---
✅ 3. If the visa was obtained under Workcation, can you later enter Thailand under Soft Power?
✔️ Yes, you can.
The reason for entry during subsequent arrivals does not have to match the reason used when applying for the visa.
Why this works:
DTV is a long-term, multiple-entry visa valid for 5 years.
It allows entry for any purpose that falls within the DTV framework.
At border control, officers do not compare your current reason for entry with the original application category.
So:
📌 Visa issued as Workcation → you may enter under Soft Power.
This is often even beneficial because:
Soft Power is easier to understand and raises fewer questions from officers.
Muay Thai courses, culinary courses, or medical treatment are clear and respected reasons.
The key point is to have real proof of booking or participation to show if requested.
---
✅ 4. Can Soft Power be used for an EASIER extension at immigration?
✔️ Yes — this is a real and effective strategy.
A 180-day DTV extension inside Thailand is based on your actual reason for stay.
If you show:
a contract with a Muay Thai school, or
a booking at a Thai culinary school, or
a medical treatment program,
then extending under Soft Power is:
➜ easier, cleaner, and raises far fewer questions.
Why Soft Power is easier:
Immigration can easily verify and understand the purpose of stay.
No need to prove freelance income, clients, or work contracts.
It is an officially government-supported direction.
---
⚠️ Final answers in ultra-short format:
1. One visa, different purposes — yes.
2. Combining Soft Power with Workcation at application — yes, but only when applying under Soft Power.
3. Got Workcation → can enter under Soft Power — yes.
4. Extending a DTV Workcation via Soft Power (e.g. Muay Thai or cooking) — yes, and it’s easier.
Stuart *********
As stated there have been some that have successfully managed to get an extension. They probably won’t try again as it’s too much of a pain is the posterior to do so. They have a 5 year visa. Bounce and get another 180 days.
One person was pregnant so couldn’t. They got an extension. 10 others may have been successfully processed but the other 99% (a made up figure) gave up trying.
One person was pregnant so couldn’t. They got an extension. 10 others may have been successfully processed but the other 99% (a made up figure) gave up trying.
Stuart *********
I can only say that the likelihood of getting a DTV extension from Phuket is pretty much close to zero. It has happened but they seriously don’t want to do it and will throw whatever in your path to get one.
Bounce and get another 180 days. Visit Vietnam, Singapore or Malaysia for a weekend holiday. Not an issue for many. Try for an extension if you like pain.
Bounce and get another 180 days. Visit Vietnam, Singapore or Malaysia for a weekend holiday. Not an issue for many. Try for an extension if you like pain.
Michael ********
OP@Stuart ********
is it possible of course because this is one of visa rule. Not all can go abroad.Stuart *********
Theoretically yes. In practice not so much.
Sky ***************
@Stuart ********
Absolutely. However, we have had cases where individuals were involved in motorbike accidents and it was not convenient for them to travel. In such situations, the only option was to extend their stay within the country through the Immigration Office. It can be difficult, but it is possible. In these cases, it is usually best to hire professionals who work with the Immigration Office on a regular basis and understand the process well.The processing is almost the same as applying for a new visa. However, this is quite normal in Thailand — even with extensions for many Non-O visas, the procedure is often very similar to the process of applying for a new visa.
John **********
@Sky **************
I don't believe the majority of what you wrote. Can you provide any official sources for any of your claims?Sky ***************
@John *********
This is how some Thai immigration from the Phuket Immigration Office currently interprets the DTV visa regulations. In Thailand, interpretations can sometimes vary between provinces and even between individual immigration officers.As many provinces and immigration offices exist, there can be different opinions and approaches to applying the rules. What works at the Bangkok Immigration Office may not always be applied in exactly the same way at the Phuket Immigration Office. This has often been the case in Thailand.
Khun ******
@John *********
You're still learning about the DTV John you'll get there don't worry.John **********
@Michael *******
nope, not officially announced anywhereMichael ********
OP@John *********
I can't show proof of renewals. Maybe you have right, I don't know. But that's one of DTV's perks, and it's officially announced, right? Sometimes you can't go abroad, for example if you have treatment or course, so what then? I don't know why it's that difficult if this is mentioned even on official site.John **********
@Michael *******
there is certainly tons of proof that an extension of stay is extremely difficult to get at the phuket immigration office. Stuart actually works there, so listen to what comes from the horses mouthMichael ********
OP@John *********
I don't understand what you don't understand really. It's super clear right now and there is tons of proofs and you guys still arguing with facts.Stuart *********
Can’t see the comment. Just get a rotating wheel
John **********
Any comment
@Stuart ********
? Doesn't seem right to me.Sky ***************
@John *********
You certainly have the right to your own opinion, and we respect that.However, if you currently hold a Workation DTV visa and find that extending it at the Phuket Immigration Office is difficult, you are welcome to join our program. We can assist you in extending your stay and switching to the Soft Power DTV extension directly at the Phuket Immigration Office.
Perhaps after going through the process yourself, you will gain your own experience and perspective.
Some of our former students initially joined the program as a simpler way to obtain the Soft Power DTV visa. After completing the program, they transitioned to their online freelance work and did not need to purchase additional Thai cooking or Muay Thai courses if they chose not to.
We have also had participants who originally obtained their DTV visa under the Workation purpose. When they later attempted to extend their stay for another 180 days at the Phuket Immigration Office, they found the process quite challenging. After joining the Soft Power course, they were able to extend their stay for 180 days through immigration without leaving the country.
Most of our students are digital nomads who work online. Some join the program simply because they become tired of working only on their laptops and want to experience hands-on, offline activities. Others use the program as a more straightforward pathway to maintain their 5-year DTV visa while avoiding complicated embassy requirements that they may find difficult to fulfill.
Michael ********
OP@Sky **************
the people here are trolls mostly, wasting time.Greg ***********
you are only allowed to remotely work under the DTV1. If you have been issued the DTV2 (soft power) or the DTV3 (spousal visa), you are NOT allowed to work inside Thailand, regardless if remotely or actively. UNRELATED: For an active work inside Thailand, you need the Non-Imm-B Visa and a work permit anyways. . . As long as you cannot show me an OFFICIAL Thai government or embassy or Immigration text that explicitly allows it, I tend to believe that this topic remains questionable
Luit *****************
@Greg **********
You are 100 percent right about that only DTV 1 workcation is allowed to do remote work on a regular basis, but in practice nobody on whatever visa or even without visa will get trouble when staying low profile, because no active enforcement and occasional work like answering an urgent bussiness email will be acceptable.But that said, DTV 2 and DTV 3 do not have anything extra concerning remote work compared to visa exempt.
Sky ***************
@Greg **********
this is just remarks of specific Thai Embassy for easy understanding nothing more than this.We can share 3 DTV visas granted under different purpose of visit, and if anyone proof difference and guess correctly which one is for which purpose of visit we will provide for free as complimentary our Thai Cooking Class tour at our sea farm in Phuket ; ) because eVisa and entry stamp completely are same for all purpose because it's one visa only, but with different purpose of entry.
Michael ********
OP@Greg **********
did you get pills today?Greg ***********
@Michael *******
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Michel *****
"as confirmed by AI" ... Stupidity reigns the world
Greg ***********
The Royal Thai embassy list of visa-types clearly distinguishes between a DTV1, a DTV2 and a DTV3.
It is 100% correct to say that there are indeed THREE DIFFERENT TYPES of the DTV:
*** DTV1 is the workation, digital nomad DTV
*** DTV2 is the soft power related activities DTV
*** DTV3 is the spousal, supporting DTV
You are ALLOWED to work REMOTELY on the DTV1.
You are NOT ALLOWED to work on the DTV2 and DTV3, regardless if remotely or active inside Thailand
It is 100% correct to say that there are indeed THREE DIFFERENT TYPES of the DTV:
*** DTV1 is the workation, digital nomad DTV
*** DTV2 is the soft power related activities DTV
*** DTV3 is the spousal, supporting DTV
You are ALLOWED to work REMOTELY on the DTV1.
You are NOT ALLOWED to work on the DTV2 and DTV3, regardless if remotely or active inside Thailand
Sky ***************
@Greg **********
please show 3 different type of visa in official website it's clearly stated purpose of visit but not visa. Thank youGreg ***********
@Sky **************
quod erat demonstrandumGreg ***********
@Michael *******
I am admin and moderator of a renowned visa-advice group. I don't care about your opinion, you can have one, up to you. Regarding the DTV, you could not be more wrong. Brandon and Robert also did not agree with youMichael ********
OP@Greg **********
you're totally wrong. And stupid. How many times we have to teach you? You're just a troll who won't learn.Greg ***********
@Sky **************
there is a selection for the DTV, and after you selected it, it asks for another selection - which of the THREE different types of DTV you want to apply for, each for a different purpose. So actually there are three different types of DTV and I am NOT wrong in my wording, okay?Greg ***********
@Sky **************
*** Any person who applied for the DTV will surely KNOW for which purpose he applied. The THREE different requirements are listed on the embassy website list of visa-types. He can chose from THREE different types of DTV.
*** When issued the .pdf visa document, there is no extra mention of the purpose any more, nor is there any mention of the type of DTV.
Which still does NOT mean that there are no three different DTV types. There ARE clearly marked three different distinctions on the embassy list.
The DTV holder alone knows which type he got issued.
On soft power DTV2 and spouse DTV3, he is not allowed to work remotely, or work on anything inside Thailand.
Only on the DTV1 type (digital nomad) he is allowed to remotely work from a base in Thailand.
In case an Immigration officer checks a DTV holder while suspecting him of illegally working remotely, then the visa holder must prove he has actually applied for the DTV1 type. If he can’t prove it, he will have a problem.
So, this means if your guy starts to work remotely on his DTV, he would be violating the law, because his DTV2 type does not allow him to work. He would be breaking the law and could get arrested and deported.
This is why I am making a clear distinction between each of the three different DTV types - according to the .pdf list circulating on the Thai embassies’ websites. If you say that there are no three different DTV types, you definitely don’t have a f..g clue what you are talking about
Sky ***************
Unfortunately there is no selection for 3 different visa type as you can see it
Sky ***************
@Greg **********
please can you screenshot where to select 3 different TYPE OF VISAS ? because when you select really different type of visa you will get full understanding. Thank you
Greg ***********
@Sky **************
the person who applied for the DTV will surely KNOW for which purpose he applied. The different requirements are listed. He can chose from THREE different types of DTV. When issued the .pdf visa document, there is no mention of the purpose any more nor any mention of the type of DTV. Which still does NOT mean that there are no three different DTV types. There ARE! The DTV holder knows which type he holds. On soft power DTV2 and spouse DTV3, he is not allowed to remote work or any work inside Thailand. Only on DTV1 (digital nomad) he is allowed remote work from a base in Thailand. If an Immigration officer checks a DTV holder while suspecting him of illegally working remotely, then the visa holder must prove he has actually applied for the DTV1Sky ***************
Here is 3 *different* DTV visas - one of them only Soft Power used our Thai Cooking course.
Can you proof that is different visas? Thank you
Can you proof that is different visas? Thank you
Greg ***********
@Sky **************
all you need to do is CLICK onto this link on the website of the Royal Thai Embassy The Hague, and a .pdf list will appear ready for download. On this listing, you can find DTV1 and DTV2 and DTV3Greg ***********
@Sky **************
Here: official Thai Embassy website, an official published listing of all available visa types. The DTV is divided between THREE types: DTV1, DTV2 and DTV3. . . . . . . . . Each type requirements are slightly different . .here DTV1 (digital nomad, workation)Sky ***************
@Greg **********
The Destination Thailand Visa (DTV) is one visa type, but it has different categories (purposes of visit).According to official Thai Embassy information, the DTV can be issued for three categories:
DTV1 – Workcation (digital nomads, remote workers, freelancers).
DTV2 – Thai soft power activities (Muay Thai, Thai cooking, medical treatment, etc.).
DTV3 – Dependents (spouse and children under 20 of a DTV holder).
These are not separate visas, but categories within the same DTV visa, which is a 5-year multiple-entry visa.
The numbers (DTV1, DTV2, DTV3) are simply internal labels used by embassies to show different purposes and document requirements, not different visa types.
Official website that stated this information:
****************************************************************
Frédéric ******************
Even if you apply for the DTV under the "Soft Power" category (Muay Thai or Cooking), you are legally allowed to work remotely for foreign clients or companies. The visa itself is the same regardless of which "track" you use to get it.
Here is how the logic works and what you need to watch out for:
1. The "Unified" Visa Rights
The DTV is a single visa type. Whether you qualify via a remote job or a Muay Thai gym, the rights granted to you once the visa is in your passport are identical:
You can stay for 180 days per entry.
You are legally permitted to work remotely (as long as the employer/clients are outside Thailand).
You cannot work for a Thai company or take a local job (which requires a different visa and a Work Permit).
Here is how the logic works and what you need to watch out for:
1. The "Unified" Visa Rights
The DTV is a single visa type. Whether you qualify via a remote job or a Muay Thai gym, the rights granted to you once the visa is in your passport are identical:
You can stay for 180 days per entry.
You are legally permitted to work remotely (as long as the employer/clients are outside Thailand).
You cannot work for a Thai company or take a local job (which requires a different visa and a Work Permit).
Greg ***********
Frédéric Usman Letellier You cannot work remotely if you have been issued a DTV type that was applied for with soft power activity and dependent spouse.
Whilst the visa document says just "DTV", actually there are three types of DTV depending on different purposes.
Thai Immigration knows exactly which type of Destination Thailand Visa (DTV) you were issued, including the purpose (e.g., remote work, medical treatment, or cultural activities), as this data is linked to your passport upon scanning.
The e-Visa system shares application details directly with Immigration, allowing officers to verify your specific visa type upon entry.
In case you got a DTV based on soft power, and they catch you working remotely, you are facing a big problem
Whilst the visa document says just "DTV", actually there are three types of DTV depending on different purposes.
Thai Immigration knows exactly which type of Destination Thailand Visa (DTV) you were issued, including the purpose (e.g., remote work, medical treatment, or cultural activities), as this data is linked to your passport upon scanning.
The e-Visa system shares application details directly with Immigration, allowing officers to verify your specific visa type upon entry.
In case you got a DTV based on soft power, and they catch you working remotely, you are facing a big problem
Greg ***********
Frédéric Usman Letellier You could not be more wrong!
You wrote: “Even if you apply for the DTV under the "Soft Power" category (Muay Thai or Cooking), you are legally allowed to work remotely for foreign clients or companies”
This is complete and utter nonsense. You are NOT allowed to work remotely on the soft power and the spousal DTV. This kind of employment is PROHIBITED.
The Royal Thai embassy list of visa-types clearly distinguishes between a DTV1, a DTV2 and a DTV3.
It is 100% correct to say that there are indeed THREE DIFFERENT TYPES of the DTV:
*** DTV1 is the workation, digital nomad DTV
*** DTV2 is the soft power related activities DTV
*** DTV3 is the spousal, supporting DTV
You ARE ALLOWED to work REMOTELY on the DTV1.
You are NOT ALLOWED to work on the DTV2 and DTV3, regardless if remotely or active inside Thailand
You wrote: “Even if you apply for the DTV under the "Soft Power" category (Muay Thai or Cooking), you are legally allowed to work remotely for foreign clients or companies”
This is complete and utter nonsense. You are NOT allowed to work remotely on the soft power and the spousal DTV. This kind of employment is PROHIBITED.
The Royal Thai embassy list of visa-types clearly distinguishes between a DTV1, a DTV2 and a DTV3.
It is 100% correct to say that there are indeed THREE DIFFERENT TYPES of the DTV:
*** DTV1 is the workation, digital nomad DTV
*** DTV2 is the soft power related activities DTV
*** DTV3 is the spousal, supporting DTV
You ARE ALLOWED to work REMOTELY on the DTV1.
You are NOT ALLOWED to work on the DTV2 and DTV3, regardless if remotely or active inside Thailand
Robert *******
IF you ask the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs, those who sell this visa, you get a decent answer.
BUT Digital Nomads using AI are better informed than the Thai Government ,LOL
BUT Digital Nomads using AI are better informed than the Thai Government ,LOL
Robert *******
@John ****
a Troll keeps going, I told you I only react if you can show me official announcements to back up your stosries.Until that time I will laugh out loud.
I have a blast, thanks for all the bs on this page.
Robert *******
Yeah, go personal to avoid being on topic.
Go for it boys,enjoy it
Go for it boys,enjoy it
Mason *******
@John ****
He's a troll and a liar. He said he's done a DTV extension even though he's on a retirement visa!Mason *******
@John ****
He's an admin in another Thai visa group so thinks he's a billy big bollox. Then crys when he comes on here where he can't delete anything 😆Robert *******
@John ****
Lots of people in Thailand do not wear a helmet while driving a motorbike, so it must be legal according your logic.Lots of DN ignore the law and work in Thailand so it must be legal LOL
The website of the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs is not legal but a visa agency knows the rules. LOL
AGAIN each and every applicaton is FREE to choose a visa, it is the responsibility of each and every visa holder to follow the rules and regulations of the visa.
Same as every body can rent a motorbike, but it is YOUR responsibility to wear a helmet and have a driving license.
YOU can apply for a tourist visa and work on line, but it is NOT legally allowed.
a Visa agent is helping to make profit and is not paid to be your nanny.
IF you want the wrong visa, they do not care, the embassy is not responsible for your behavior, ONLY YOURSELF.
IF YOU can not accept that the Thai Government makes the rules, you are as hopeless as all the other trolls on this page.
I show you again, please ask your wife to read it out loud:
Robert *******
@John ****
OFFICIAL statements from the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs and/or Royal Thai Police Immigration Bureau.NOT from Digital Nomads OR visa agencies.
Is it that hard to find an e-mail from the Thai Government or the local Immigration office?
Digital nomads, only know what they want to know, the rest of the www can not be used.\
Robert *******
@John ****
OFFICIAL please, not repeating the same bs you read from trolls or AI.I stop until you show me an official statement from the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs that every DTV holder not depending on purpose is allowed to work as Digital Nomad/Remote Worker/Foreign Talent/Freelance.
You show me that every DTV holder can get an Extension of Stay based on all three purpose even when they hold a DTV based on another purpose.
Thanks for the effort and see you next topic where you are sharing the same BS without any proof.
Enjoy your stay
John *****
@Robert ******
Siam Legal say remote work for clients not connected with Thailand is permitted on soft power. I think that settles the argument.Mason *******
@John ****
The elderly people on here often get confused with Non O visas as well and like to compare to tourist visas.John *****
@Mason ******
well certainly Robert, but anyway I contacted Siam Legal and will post what they have to say. I think we all know which one to believe....John *****
Robert Lagas it would have to be an official statement from immigration or perhaps the royal gazette. My evidence is that the embassies are asking Soft Power applicants to show income from remote work in some cases. I will most certainly post if I find more. And no I do not take evidence from AI or as you say trolls. I really think you should leave this group to be honest. You don't seem to understand the visa system properly or be capable of doing so. Possibly due to shortcomings in both English and Thai.
Michael ********
OP@John ****
he is just a troll, ignoreMason *******
All DTV holders are permitted to work remotely. Ignore Robert he is a bored pensioner and comes here to troll.
John *****
@Mason ******
yeah Facebook is a place for those with nothing better to do half the time.......Robert *******
@John ****
You quickly deleted your comment?Where is the income question?
Take care do as you wish and go travel to avoid crying about a non approved extension of stay.
John *****
@Robert ******
3.2 Financial support for travel such as a certificate from the company or employer. We know that a DTV holder cannot get a work permit in Thailand so therefore you are showing us that a DTV holder is permitted to have non Thai employment.John *****
@Robert ******
no I was just correcting my comment that's all. I won't be going for extension of stay - border run will be fine for me. But anyway, what were you trying to show me? There's nothing that says remote work is not possible on soft power. There is evidence of embassies asking for evidence of remote income from soft power applications. I think you've got it wrong and I want to see if you can find any decent evidence to back up what you're saying. So far none..... So come on... bring the evidence....John *****
@Robert ******
there's nothing to see here. What are you trying to say?Robert *******
John *****
@Robert ******
also purpose of visa and permitted activities are 2 different things.Robert *******
@John ****
Just show me one piece of official information that show that the official information I( showed is incorrect?This is from the official website, you choose, a visa with a purpose.
As far as I can read, there is ONLY 1 with purpose remote work
Show me that all have the same
John *****
@Robert ******
after today if we can't agree then I will talk with you no more. I feel like it could be never ending.John *****
@Robert ******
you should quit with your advice as it is wrong and has a clear bias. Bring us the evidence if you think otherwise!John *****
@Robert ******
all I'm really asking for is convincing evidence that remote work is not allowed for SP.applicants.John *****
@Robert ******
you have gone way off topic here. And also still no evidence that remote work on soft power is not allowed. This is the DTV group not the non O group anyway. You are rambling incoherently. DTV is the topic! Forget non O!Robert *******
@John ****
As I said you do not understand how a visa works.For Example: The Non Immigrant O visa has over a dozen different purpose.
The DTV only has 3.
If you keep telling you can change and use different purpose as the DTV is the DTV visa, it must be allowed in every visa.
So a single person over 50 years of age, can tell he became married with a Thai citizenon at entry as he has a Non Immigrant O visa and he can work as volunteer or be able to apply for a work permit
All the same visa BUT you all forget that their is a BIG change by choosing the PURPOSE.
You are free to choose, a visa and purpose, it will be issued when you application is genuine, it is YOUR responsibility to follow the rules of the visa.
It is not the responsibility of a Thai Embassy to control your behavior, you are an adult and the Thai Government is NOT your nanny.
You choose, you take responsibility, you face the consequences for your actions.
Play stupid games, win stupid prices.
This is real life, not the dream world of the DN.
John *****
@Robert ******
that's fair enough, but in this case you've got it a little wrong. You also seem to consistently try to dissuade people from getting a DTV. If the embassy will grant me a 5 year DTV then I'm going to go for that. It's up to the embassy to choose whether I or anyone else gets it. And so long as I do what I said I would do on my application then no problem. You seem to be projecting northern European ideals and wishes onto Thailand. Like your body is in Thailand, but your mind is still back in Europe. If you think I'm wrong then we can continue this discussion in Thai and we will see.Robert *******
@John ****
People ask questions about the rules and regulations.I think it is a good thing to explain the people what they ask.
BUT some people love to tell their day dreams whcih may lead into problems for others, I guess they love to see others in big problems,.
I did see enough people ending up in jail and court due to their choice of wrong visa, so I try to help out with correct information so they can avoid those problems.
In the end it is all the choice of the person, you might follow my advice and have no problems or go for the thrill and anciety every time a police officer looks at you.
John *****
@Robert ******
why are you always on here laying down rules to everyone? For what exactly? I'm just here preparing for my application.John *****
@Robert ******
it says employer.....John *****
@Robert ******
that pretty much says "I'm not sure, go to ask immigration." Second, many soft power applications have been asked to show online income. Third, until you can show a clear example of a soft power DTV holder being apprehended by immigration for remote work (or indeed anyone in the last 5 years) then there's no problem with remote working on soft power.John *****
Not everyone in the government knows everything, especially about the job of a different department. We have to look at real events on the ground.
Mason *******
@Robert ******
Says the man who asked an AI assistant 😆Robert *******
@Mason ******
Another one who can not read but like to troll.I never use AI as it is a combination of stupidity and bs from nomads
Michael ********
OP@Robert ******
only one who is troll here is youMichael ********
OP@Robert ******
group's troll arrived 😂
Nick *******
@Michael *******
I have read a number of comments on this thread. You seem to just want to have an argument with everyone. It is a bit pathetic, especially when you call people trolls who disagree with you, including Robert, whom if you read enough content in this group you would know is one of the more knowledgeable and calm members. People, including you, tend to interpret what they read, and then look for supporting evidence (including AI) that supports the answer they are looking for. That is all you are doing here. Others, the more sensible ones, rely and stick to official wordings, that of course can be interpreted differently. Personally I don't think there is a clear answer to this, but you can find content that supports either side. So you need to make your own judgement, like a grown up, and stop arguing with everyone, and calling them trolls. You come across like a 5 year old in the playground. Have a great day!Robert *******
@Michael *******
Yep, I noticed your presense, but this is not an airport, no need to announce your arrival or departure.Robert *******
Three options, ONLY 1 mention (Digital Nomad, /remote worker/foreign talent/Freelance)
BUT AI, a combination of lots of incorrect information spread on the internet by nomads should be the norm, LOL.
BUT AI, a combination of lots of incorrect information spread on the internet by nomads should be the norm, LOL.
Michael ********
OP@Robert ******
read the comments, don't make fool of you my friendRobert *******
@Michael *******
I do not listen to fools, but feel free to be an illegal working alien in Thailand.Your choice of of life, not mine.
So let me keep spreading officiall information, even if you do not like to read and follow it, use your scroll button.
Frédéric ******************
I read and write Thai for 40 years. I can read the laws.
Robert *******
Frédéric Usman Letellier Another foreigner making rules and regulations for the Thai Government.
Frédéric ******************
Even if you apply for the DTV under the "Soft Power" category (Muay Thai or Cooking), you are legally allowed to work remotely for foreign clients or companies. The visa itself is the same regardless of which "track" you use to get it.
Here is how the logic works and what you need to watch out for:
1. The "Unified" Visa Rights
The DTV is a single visa type. Whether you qualify via a remote job or a Muay Thai gym, the rights granted to you once the visa is in your passport are identical:
You can stay for 180 days per entry.
You are legally permitted to work remotely (as long as the employer/clients are outside Thailand).
You cannot work for a Thai company or take a local job (which requires a different visa and a Work Permit).
Here is how the logic works and what you need to watch out for:
1. The "Unified" Visa Rights
The DTV is a single visa type. Whether you qualify via a remote job or a Muay Thai gym, the rights granted to you once the visa is in your passport are identical:
You can stay for 180 days per entry.
You are legally permitted to work remotely (as long as the employer/clients are outside Thailand).
You cannot work for a Thai company or take a local job (which requires a different visa and a Work Permit).
Robert *******
Greg ***********
@Michael *******
you cannot work on DTV2 and DTV3. You can only work on DTV1Michael ********
OP@Robert ******
you can work remotely on DTV visa. That's why there is only ONE DTV visa, not two, not three, not five. ONE.
Daniel ***********
AI is a fibber
Simsan *********
রিমোর্ট ওয়ার্কের জন্য ডিটিভির একটা অপশন আছে। মেডিকেল ভিসার জন্য আর একটা অপশন আছে। আর একটা অপশন আছে, মুরাল থাই নামে, এটা মূলত থাইল্যান্ডের কুকিং, জিম, বা কালচারাল কোন ধরনের ট্রেনিং গ্রহণের জন্য।
Michael ********
OP@Simsan ********
oh god what is itSimsan *********
@Michael *******
Opps, sorry. I thought it's local group and answers in local language 😀😀Sam ******
1. There are 2 kinds of DTV visas. Workcation and Soft Power.
2. You do not need any kind of visa to work remotely outside of Thailand. Immigration have specifically said that they do not consider this "work" for visa purposes. You have always been allowed to work remotely, just like you can literally everywhere else in the world.
The visa is to allow you to stay longer.
2. You do not need any kind of visa to work remotely outside of Thailand. Immigration have specifically said that they do not consider this "work" for visa purposes. You have always been allowed to work remotely, just like you can literally everywhere else in the world.
The visa is to allow you to stay longer.
Luit *****************
Frédéric Usman Letellier Correct, and the only 2 types are DTV 1 an LTR (T) L3
Michael ********
OP@Sam *****
stop spread misinformations! You can't work remotely on another type of visa without work permit! You can find many news when people are caught in cafe and DEPORTED because they was thinking as you think. NO, YOU CAN'T WORK REMOTELY IN THAILAND WITHOUT WORK PERMIT.Sam ******
@Michael *******
yes you can, and have always been able to. You cannot work for a Thai company or service Thai clients, that is all.Michael ********
OP@Sam *****
you're totally wrong what told you many ppl but you still make fool of yourselfSam ******
You can remote work under any kind of visa. DTV just lets you stay longer.
Michael ********
OP@Sam *****
no you can't, it's strictly prohibited. You can work remotely legally only on DTV.Sam ******
@Michael *******
incorrect.Michael ********
OP@Sam *****
yes you're incorrectGreg ***********
@Michael *******
you are wrong. You should apologize to your friend and buy him a beerLuit *****************
@Michael *******
Why should a Polish citizen go to his local UK/Ireland Bank?Greg ***********
@Michael *******
your ChatGPT is rubbish, just wrong info. kick it into the canGreg ***********
@Michael *******
stop bogging us down with rubbish ChatGPT info. . LOOK at what I posted you THIS is official Thai Embassy infoGreg ***********
@Michael *******
you are WRONG. There are THREE types of DTvMichael ********
OP@Greg **********
ok. Ask two people who get visa based to another reason. They have the same visa in passport. There is only one DTV.John **********
One thing is for sure, you should never listen to AI with regards to Thai visas. There is so much misinformation out there it is frequently wrong. As to whether all DTV paths are equal there's no information on that either but I'm pretty sure that if you hold a DTV based on workation (DTV1) and go to an immigration office to request an extension of stay you won't be able to apply under soft power (DTV2). Even the MFA that introduced the visa don't seem to know the answer.
Michael ********
OP@John *********
AI has right.
Wesley ********
Never use the words “confirmed by AI” AI is as dumb as the information it crawls and also sometimes hallucinates. Never trust AI for asking answers to questions.
But I digress. I think I know who you’re talking about and it’s practically BS, there is no confirmation one way or the other. But practically speaking they are all the same once granted
But I digress. I think I know who you’re talking about and it’s practically BS, there is no confirmation one way or the other. But practically speaking they are all the same once granted
Chris ********
@Wesley *******
The Royal Thai embassy list of visa-types clearly distinguishes between a DTV1, a DTV2 and a DTV3. It is 100% correct to say that there are indeed THREE DIFFERENT TYPES of the DTV:
*** DTV1 is the workation, digital nomad DTV
*** DTV2 is the soft power related activities DTV
*** DTV3 is the spousal, supporting DTV
You are ALLOWED to work REMOTELY on the DTV1.
You are NOT ALLOWED to work on the DTV2 and DTV3, regardless if remotely or active inside Thailand
Please quiet with your wrong answers.
Anonymous ******************
Chris Wagner i work online with my soft power DTV, when i applied I even explicitly told them this was my plan to support myself in the next few years so you can work online with soft power
Greg ***********
LongTimeLivingInThailand and the Royal Thai Embassy Berlin told the exact opposite
LongTimeLivi************
Anonymous participant 953 we got a similar response when applying for a DTV soft power (Muay Thai). Asked if we can still do remote work and the replied "yes you can"
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant 953 you just cannot work within thailand or with any thai clients
Wesley ********
Chris Wagner no. It’s 1 visa, 3 routes to get it.
Feel free to use Thai government website links to argue your stance.
Feel free to use Thai government website links to argue your stance.
John *****
Chris Wagner 1 DTV 3 application routes.
Neil *********
Chris Wagner how would anyone know if you were working remotely or not on a DTV 2 or 3.. assuming these visas are utilised over the 5 year periods then for most - they will be 'working / earning' one way or another - not allowed? How old are we, 8 ?
Luit *****************
@Neil ********
Of course most wil work, but since they are not expected to live in Thailand full time, there is plenty of time left working phisically outside Thailand, and that is allowed.Luit *****************
DTV_BegPecker Why not? Parts of it certainly will be available.
Greg ***********
DTV_BegPecker I asked an Immigration Volunteer. It does not show up automatically after scanning the passport, but the Immigration officer can indeed dive deeper and find MOFA information - regardless the MfA and Immigration being two completely different ministries
DTV_Be*******
@Greg **********
you really think the MOFA system is accessible by immigration ? HahaGreg ***********
@Neil ********
You cannot work remotely if you have been issued a DTV type that was applied for with soft power activity and dependent spouse. Whilst the visa document says just "DTV", actually there are three types of DTV depending on different purposes.
Thai Immigration knows exactly which type of Destination Thailand Visa (DTV) you were issued, including the purpose (e.g., remote work, medical treatment, or cultural activities), as this data is linked to your passport upon scanning.
The e-Visa system shares application details directly with Immigration, allowing officers to verify your specific visa type upon entry.
In case you got a DTV based on soft power, and they catch you working remotely, you are facing a big problem
Greg ***********
@Neil ********
Immigration knows. It is all on their computerMichael ********
OP@Wesley *******
yeah me too, that's why I'm asking. Fortunately this time AI was right 😁Greg ***********
@Michael *******
you are dumber than a slice of breadGreg ***********
@Michael *******
unfortunately, the info given to you by AI was complete and utter nonsense
Wayne *******
AI will make the human race less intelligent. More reliant. Less ability. Less awareness. Ouch! Glad I'll be long gone
The meaning of life hasnt been explained yet, but my guess is, we are bang in the middle point. It seems up until now, time and progression have aligned quite well. 3 steps forward, 1 back perhaps.
It seems now, we are going 3 back and 1 forward. It beggars belief that we can progress and maintain progression or even plateau, but to go backwards takes special kinds of fools.
The meaning of life hasnt been explained yet, but my guess is, we are bang in the middle point. It seems up until now, time and progression have aligned quite well. 3 steps forward, 1 back perhaps.
It seems now, we are going 3 back and 1 forward. It beggars belief that we can progress and maintain progression or even plateau, but to go backwards takes special kinds of fools.
Michael ********
OP@Wayne ******
do you know the answer or what?Wayne *******
@Michael *******
Of course I do!!! Its blatantly obvious! Not sure why you felt the need to create a post about a tiff for 😂Michael ********
OP@Wayne ******
😂😂 high five
Assara *****************
The DTV visa (Destination Thailand Visa) is a single type of visa, but it has several categories such as Soft Power, Remote Work, and Medical Treatment.
Regardless of the category, it is still the same DTV visa.
For example, if someone receives a DTV visa under the Soft Power category (such as learning Muay Thai, Thai cooking, or other cultural activities), they are still allowed to do remote work. This is because while staying in Thailand for these activities, they still need to work to support their living expenses and the cost of the course.
Therefore, the category only explains the main purpose of entering Thailand, but the visa itself remains the same DTV visa.
Regardless of the category, it is still the same DTV visa.
For example, if someone receives a DTV visa under the Soft Power category (such as learning Muay Thai, Thai cooking, or other cultural activities), they are still allowed to do remote work. This is because while staying in Thailand for these activities, they still need to work to support their living expenses and the cost of the course.
Therefore, the category only explains the main purpose of entering Thailand, but the visa itself remains the same DTV visa.
Greg ***********
@Assara ****************
I do not care about how you call it - the Royal Thai embassies are listing three DTV on their websitesMichael ********
OP@Greg **********
many hours, many ppl comment what DTV is and you still didn't get it?Greg ***********
@Michael *******
you still don't get it, that the DTV gets listed THREE times on the Thai embassies list of available visa types? I even posted the relevant THREE pictures of THREE different DTV types. They even call it DTV1, DTV2 and DTV3 . . . What is it you don't understand? This morning I asked my tuna sandwich, and it gave me the correct answer, it is only you who is flipping back and forthAssara *****************
@Greg **********
I understand your point. The Royal Thai Embassies list several categories such as Remote Work, Soft Power, and Medical, but they are all under the same DTV (Destination Thailand Visa). The categories only describe the purpose of the application.John *****
@Greg **********
there is one visa and 3 ways to get it. It doesn't matter which way we choose to be granted the visa, it is still the same visa with just one set of rules for holders. Of course, we should do what we said we'd do when applying.Sky ***************
@Greg **********
you can read in English Visa type is DTV visa
Purpose of visit
For one visa
Different purpose of visit
For each purpose of visit different requirements
Anyone can switch purpose of visa especially in comparation Worckation and Soft Power as main visa not spouse, but if main visa change purpose of visit for example within immigration office, spouse followers remaining the same purpose following main DTV visa holder.
Frédéric ******************
Even if you apply for the DTV under the "Soft Power" category (Muay Thai or Cooking), you are legally allowed to work remotely for foreign clients or companies. The visa itself is the same regardless of which "track" you use to get it.
Here is how the logic works and what you need to watch out for:
The "Unified" Visa Rights
The DTV is a single visa type. Whether you qualify via a remote job or a Muay Thai gym, the rights granted to you once the visa is in your passport are identical:
You can stay for 180 days per entry.
You are legally permitted to work remotely (as long as the employer/clients are outside Thailand).
You cannot work for a Thai company or take a local job (which requires a different visa and a Work Permit).
Here is how the logic works and what you need to watch out for:
The "Unified" Visa Rights
The DTV is a single visa type. Whether you qualify via a remote job or a Muay Thai gym, the rights granted to you once the visa is in your passport are identical:
You can stay for 180 days per entry.
You are legally permitted to work remotely (as long as the employer/clients are outside Thailand).
You cannot work for a Thai company or take a local job (which requires a different visa and a Work Permit).
Assara *****************
@Greg **********
If that is your understanding, that’s completely fine. There is no need to explain it further 😊Greg ***********
@Assara ****************
and HERE you are wrong: on a DTV issued for soft power (DTV2) or for being a spouse (DTV3), you are NOT allowed to work remotely for an overseas employer. On these two DTV-types, you are prohibited to do remote work or work inside Thailand. This is the reason for me drawing a clear difference between the three DTV-typesAssara *****************
@Greg **********
As you can see in the visa, the visa type issued is DTV (Destination Thailand Visa) with multiple entry and validity for 5 years.In this case, the application was submitted using documents from a cooking class program, which falls under the Soft Power category. However, as shown on the visa, the final visa granted is simply DTV.
The category used during the application (such as Cooking Class, Muay Thai, Medical, or Remote Work) only supports the purpose of the application. But once the visa is approved, the visa type issued by the Thai Embassy is still DTV (Destination Thailand Visa).
The remark “Employment Prohibited” means the visa holder cannot work for a Thai company in Thailand, but they may still do remote work for overseas employers or their own business while staying in Thailand.
Assara *****************
@Greg **********
It ultimately depends on how you choose to interpret it, so there is no need to overcomplicate the explanation.I have assisted many applicants in applying for the DTV visa with various types of documents and under different categories. However, regardless of the category used in the application, the visa granted in the end is still the same — DTV visa.
Michael ********
OP@Greg **********
you again? Really? Are you drunk or high? You're acting like down syndrome. You really don't understand or you just do trolling?Greg ***********
@Michael *******
The Royal Thai embassy list of visa-types clearly distinguishes between a DTV1, a DTV2 and a DTV3. Thus, it is 100% correct to say that there are indeed THREE DIFFERENT TYPES of the DTV:
*** DTV1 is the workation, digital nomad DTV
*** DTV2 is the soft power related activities DTV
*** DTV3 is the spousal, supporting DTV
Greg ***********
@Assara ****************
The Royal Thai embassy list of visa-types clearly distinguishes between a DTV1, a DTV2 and a DTV3. Thus, it is 100% correct to say that there are indeed THREE DIFFERENT TYPES of the DTV:
*** DTV1 is the workation, digital nomad DTV
*** DTV2 is the soft power related activities DTV
*** DTV3 is the spousal, supporting DTV
Michael ********
OP@Greg **********
you're still 😂😂😂😂😂 your IQ is not enough to understand, don't mind my friend, it's okay 😂😂😂😂😂Greg ***********
@Assara ****************
Quod erat demonstrandum . . . .The Thai embassy clearly distinguishes between a DTV1, a DTV2 and a DTV3
Mo ******
@Assara ****************
this is an interesting answer !Michael ********
OP@Assara ****************
exactly this answer is correct but ppl here don't understand what DTV is lol 😂Greg ***********
@Michael *******
The Royal Thai embassy list of visa-types clearly distinguishes between a DTV1, a DTV2 and a DTV3. Thus, it is 100% correct to say that there are indeed THREE DIFFERENT TYPES of the DTV:
*** DTV1 is the workation, digital nomad DTV
*** DTV2 is the soft power related activities DTV
*** DTV3 is the spousal, supporting DTV
Michael ********
OPMany people confuse the reason for applying for a visa and what kind of visa it is. The DTV visa was created for digital nomads. Regardless of how it's obtained, the visa is the same in every case and provides the same privileges.
Mason *******
Luit van der Linde Show us your DTV1 and is all the application info in the system?
Mason *******
Luit van der Linde Still waiting, there's a good lad
Mason *******
Luit van der Linde You're not very good at proving your claims so wouldn't expect anything else.
Mason *******
Luit van der Linde So you have a DTV and not a DTV1. Thanks for the confirmation.
Luit *****************
@Mason ******
Very special you and @Michael *******
get exactly the same request for info from the same embassy, two accounts of same troll?Michael ********
OP@Mason ******
exactly
Ben ******
This is why AI won't replace lawyers.
Michael ********
OP@Ben *****
but the AI is right so?Ben ******
@Michael *******
it doesn't provide enough info or context, just like AI lawyers. Might create more problems down the line, just saying.
Kurt *************
There is only 1 DTV visa, but they have several under categories.
Softpower - Cooking, cultural, medical treatment or muay thai.
Remote work/free lancer - Work related remotely
Softpower - Cooking, cultural, medical treatment or muay thai.
Remote work/free lancer - Work related remotely
Greg ***********
@Kurt ************
you are only allowed to remotely work under the DTV1. If you have been issued the DTV2 (soft power) or the DTV3 (spousal visa), you are NOT allowed to work inside Thailand, regardless if remotely or actively. For an active work inside Thailand, you need the Non-Imm-B Visa and a work permitKurt *************
@Greg **********
there is no such thing as dtv1, 2 or 3. Spousal visa isnt a thing either. So stop tagging meIvan ************
@Gr**
What's the official/legal source for that? It sounds like a Google AI summary which is not an official source and are often incorrect. This is the actual legislation that established the DTV, you can translate it using Google Translate. It doesn't contain anything saying working is restricted to people who applied on the basis of remote work. The only reference to work is Article 7:
"Foreign nationals and their dependents, who are legally married spouses, who have been granted a special tourist visa (Destination Thailand Visa: DTV) and who intend to work in the Kingdom, upon being granted permission to stay in the Kingdom, must first apply for and change their visa type to a temporary worker visa, and then apply for a work permit in accordance with the law on the administration of foreign workers."
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*****
.pdfBut this applies to "work in the Kingdom" which they don't see remote work as. It applies to remote workers same as any other category.
Greg ***********
@Ivan ***********
Why don’t you all ask Google, before you slam my knowledge?My question:
“Does Thai Immigration know which type of DTV you got issued according to the purpose”
ANSWER:
*** Thai Immigration knows exactly which type of Destination Thailand Visa (DTV) you were issued, including the purpose (e.g., remote work, medical treatment, or cultural activities), as this data is linked to your passport upon scanning.
The e-Visa system shares application details directly with immigration, allowing officers to verify your specific visa type upon entry.
*** Key Details Regarding DTV and Immigration:
*** Instant Access: Upon scanning your passport, officials know you are a DTV holder eligible for a 180-day stay.
*** Purpose Visibility: The specific purpose for which your DTV was issued is visible, as it is part of the application details provided during the e-Visa process.
*** Recommendation: While they have the data, it is still recommended to carry a printout of your e-Visa to prevent IO errors and ensure you receive the correct 180-day stamp.
*** Interaction: Immigration officers may still ask questions, even if they have the details, but usually, the process is quick.
*** When entering, it is essential to ensure the officer stamps you for the correct 180-day duration.
Greg ***********
@Ivan ***********
well just do it, book a cooking course then start to work remotely for a foreign company in your home office. Visit Immigration and tell them what you think you are - fully legally - doing. I bet you will become the joke of the dayGreg ***********
@Ivan ***********
of course there is . . . . EVERYTHING is available in the Central Computer. Immigration surely KNOWS which type of DTV for which purpose you got the DTV type *** Any person who applied for the DTV will surely remember for which purpose he applied. The THREE different requirements are listed on the embassy websites list of 3 different DTV visa-types. He can chose from 3 different types of DTV/purposes in the e-visa system.
*** When issued the .pdf visa document, there is no extra mention of the purpose any more, nor is there any mention of the type of DTV.
Which still does NOT mean that there are no three different DTV types. There ARE clearly marked three different distinctions on the embassy list. The central computer will remember for which type he applied!
It is not only the DTV holder alone who knows which type he got issued. Immigration also has a computer base and they are able to check for which purpose he got the DTV issued.
On soft power DTV2 and spouse DTV3, he is not allowed to work remotely, or work on anything inside Thailand.
Only on the DTV1 type (digital nomad) he is allowed to remotely work from a base in Thailand.
In case an Immigration officer checks a DTV holder while suspecting him of illegally working remotely, then the visa holder must prove he has actually applied for the DTV1 workation type. If he can’t prove it, he will have a big problem.
So, this means if your cooking course guy starts to work remotely on his DTV, he would be violating the law, because his DTV2 type does not allow him to work. He would be breaking the law and could get arrested and deported
This is why I am making a clear distinction between each of the three different DTV types - according to the .pdf list circulating on the Thai embassies’ websites. Immigration can always backtrack the purpose for which your DTV got issued. Because THEY, too, can make a distinction between the 3 types of DTV.
Ivan ************
@Gr**
"You are NOT ALLOWED to work on the DTV2 and DTV3, regardless if remotely or active inside Thailand"You won't be able to come up with any actual official or legal source for that because there isn't any.
Greg ***********
@Kurt ************
The Royal Thai embassy list of visa-types clearly distinguishes between a DTV1, a DTV2 and a DTV3.It is 100% correct to say that there are indeed THREE DIFFERENT TYPES of the DTV:
*** DTV1 is the workation, digital nomad DTV
*** DTV2 is the soft power related activities DTV
*** DTV3 is the spousal, supporting DTV
You are ALLOWED to work REMOTELY on the DTV1.
You are NOT ALLOWED to work on the DTV2 and DTV3, regardless if remotely or active inside Thailand
Greg ***********
@Kurt ************
and DTV number 3 why do you post such rubbish if you have no clue? These are official listings from the Thai Embassy Websites, clearly explaining the different requirements for each DTV type 1, 2 and 3Michael ********
OP@Greg **********
one more time. Take it and just be quiet. Your face is blamed on this group but smart people can learn and admit they were wrong.This is from immigration when you are applying DTV visa for reason to visit softpower. Yes the three way what you mentioned as three visas are only reasons to visit.
And as you can see the is clearly stated YOU CAN WORK REMOTELY ON SOFTPOWER REASON
Do you see?
Michael ********
OP@Kurt ************
yes and finally you get one visa, same for everyone what allow you to work remotely, nevermind if you're in cooking class or you have new teeth.Michael ********
OP@Kurt ************
this is only why you apply but there is only one DTV visa. And the visa allow you to work remotely.Kurt *************
@Michael *******
i have a dtv. I know..Michael ********
OP@Elliot *********
if someone is wrong then their is wrong. As you can see. Some ppl spread very bad misinformations so it's proper to correct them.
Elliot **********
@Michael *******
what’s the point of asking and then teling anyone who replies that they’re wrong? What anyone with experience with Thailand will tell you is that regardless of the visa you apply for, IMMIGRATION will see what you applied for, and WILL start to question you if you’re on soft power and keep coming back a year or two later. This is not stated anywhere, is not on any embassy or government website, but very much is documented in the vast amount of anecdotal evidence available in this group and elsewhere.Michael ********
OP@Greg **********
you can share my post to your group, they will love youGreg ***********
@Kurt ************
you are not allowed to work on the DTV2 which is for soft power activities. And also not allowed to work on the DTV3 which is for spousesGreg ***********
@Michael *******
you are free to block me . . . I don't care. I am the head of my own visa advice group and I am a well respected admin and moderatorMichael ********
OP@Greg **********
are you stupid or what? How many ppl have to say the same to you? You don't even understand the document what you posted.Greg ***********
@Kurt ************
oh, it clearly says "employment prohibited" on you visa document. You should keep the three types of DTV apart from each other. You are only allowed to work on the DTV1. And the work type is clearly limited, you can work in the home office of a foreign company or independently for foreign customers only, but never for Thai customersMichael ********
OP@Greg **********
OMG you should be banned. Please tell me you trolling for fun?Greg ***********
. . and with these words I will leave this thread, because it is a waste of time to discuss anything with total bricks who are unwilling to learn
Greg ***********
@Kool ******
this guy @Michael *******
is unable to grasp itGreg ***********
@Kool ******
you are allowed to work under the DTV1. However this kind of employment is restricted. You can work in Thailand as an employee in the home office of a foreign company, or you can do independent IT-work for foreign customers. However employment inside Thailand is prohibited!Greg ***********
@Kool ******
it is even mentioned on the .pdf DTV visa document: "employment prohibited"Greg ***********
@Kool ******
The Royal Thai embassy list of visa-types clearly distinguishes between a DTV1, a DTV2 and a DTV3. You are allowed to work on the DTV1.
You are NOT allowed to work on the DTV2 and DTV3.
Thus, it is 100% correct to say that there are indeed THREE DIFFERENT TYPES of the DTV:
*** DTV1 is the workation, digital nomad DTV
*** DTV2 is the soft power related activities DTV
*** DTV3 is the spousal, supporting DTV
Greg ***********
@Kool ******
you are only allowed to remotely work under the DTV1. If you have been issued the DTV2 or the DTV3, you are NOT allowed to work inside Thailand, regardless if remotely or actively. For an active work inside Thailand, you need the Non-Imm-B Visa and a work permitMichael ********
OP@Greg **********
you still don't get it right? 😁😁Michael ********
OP@Kool ******
he will never get it I think.
Kool *******
@Greg **********
it doesn't matter what the reason is, you can legally work remotely under any of the reasons.Michael ********
OP@Greg **********
it's based but finally it's only one. If you apply as workation or if you apply as cooker you will get the same visa with the same rules.Greg ***********
@Michael *******
it does not matter howe you call it - a DTV is based on three different reasons, and each reason demands a special application. Thus it is correct to speak about THREE different DTV . . I do not care about how you call it - the Royal Thai embassies are listing three DTV on their websitesMichael ********
OP@Greg **********
no, you're wrong. there are three ways to apply but there is only one visaGreg ***********
@Michael *******
you are wrong, there are three DTV types listed on Thai Embassy websitesKurt *************
@Michael *******
softpower or work is still diffrent ;) but doesnt say on the visa itselfMichael ********
OP@Kurt ************
so you can see that DTV is same whether your purpose when you applied.
Hannah ******
^^^
Brandon ************
I don't know that I've ever seen Immigration weigh in on this, and they're the only ones who actually matter. AI definitely doesn't matter.
Michael ********
OP@Greg **********
ooh really I can't work remotely on soft power? Oh you should tell that to immigration because they are wrong 😂😂How many times yet you will do fool of yourself?
Greg ***********
@Michael *******
The Royal Thai embassy list of visa-types clearly distinguishes between a DTV1, a DTV2 and a DTV3. Thus, it is 100% correct to say that there are indeed THREE DIFFERENT TYPES of the DTV:
*** DTV1 is the workation, digital nomad DTV
*** DTV2 is the soft power related activities DTV
*** DTV3 is the spousal, supporting DTV
Ivan ************
@Gr**
embassies list a lot of things, they have a lot of freedom to make rules and categorise things like they want. These numbers aren't in the legislation establishing the DTV. What it says:Article 2. The following foreign nationals may apply for special permission to reside in the Kingdom for tourism and remote work purposes under this announcement.
(1) Foreigners who wish to reside in Thailand for tourism and remote work include foreigners who wish to travel to Thailand for long-term tourism, foreigners who wish to travel to Thailand for remote work, such as highly skilled groups, self-employed groups, remote work groups, or foreigners who wish to reside in Thailand for other activities such as learning Muay Thai and martial arts, learning to cook, learning and practicing sports, medical treatment, training, seminars, art and music performances.
(2) dependents of the alien under (1) who are spouses and legitimate children not exceeding twenty years of age.
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.pdfAll the various reasons you can get the visa are lumped together into one place. Only the dependent visa is distinctly enumerated.
Michael ********
OP@Greg **********
copy paste like monkey 😂Brandon ************
@Michael *******
this is not from immigration. It's from an embassy. They only issue the visa, they have nothing to do with enforcement and the rules inside of Thailand.Michael ********
OP@Brandon ***********
it's doesn't matter AI or not. But there is only one DTV.Greg ***********
@Michael *******
you should do your own research and don't rely on ChatGPT , because the AI is fishing in a pool of wrong informationGreg ***********
@Michael *******
You cannot work remotely if you have been issued a DTV type that was applied for with soft power activity and dependent spouse. Whilst the visa document says just "DTV", actually there are three types of DTV depending on different purposes.
Thai Immigration knows exactly which type of Destination Thailand Visa (DTV) you were issued, including the purpose (e.g., remote work, medical treatment, or cultural activities), as this data is linked to your passport upon scanning.
The e-Visa system shares application details directly with Immigration, allowing officers to verify your specific visa type upon entry.
In case you got a DTV based on soft power, and they catch you working remotely, you are facing a big problem
Ivan ************
UnforgettableRambutan8343 not if they don't consider remote work to be "work in Thailand" which clearly they don't given they are issuing a visa explicitly for it. A literal reading of the definition of "work" in the Working of Alien Act absolutely anything beyond being asleep could be seen as work, possibly even dreaming could be considered "using knowledge" and simply being alive requires "exerting energy", we all have a metabolism even sitting on the couch.
Michael ********
OPUnforgettableRambutan8343 it's not the point, read the comments.
Unforgettabl*************
@Michael *******
You seem to still be missing the point. There's only one Non-Immigrant O visa as well but depending on the circumstances surrounding your application, there are different restrictions and conditions. The same is true for the DTV regardless of whatever slop a LLM spews out.Michael ********
OP@Greg **********
you still didn't learn. Pathetic.Greg ***********
@Michael *******
since you cannot work on a soft-power DTV, this subcategory is clearly separated from the workation DTV. For the LAST TIME: there are three different DTV types. Everything you posted is rubbishMichael ********
OP@Greg **********
you should stop foolish yourself, you think you can work remotely on every visa 😂 you're far away from giving advice to anyone.Michael ********
OPUnforgettableRambutan8343 there is only one DTV visa with three applying subcategories. And the visa allow you to work remotely, doesn't matter if you applied as cooker, dancer or patient.
Unforgettabl*************
@Michael *******
There’s one DTV visa but 3 distinct subcategories. This is true with most other visas as well such as the Non-Immigrant O, B and ED. You can have sub-categories of Non-Immigrant O or ED visas which are authorized to obtain a work permit while others are explicitly prohibited. That same logic still applies to the DTV.On a sort of macro scale, all work on all DTVs still is illegal per the definition of work in the Working of Alien Act B.E. 2551 (
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a0fdd.pdf).Greg ***********
@Michael *******
why don't you just remove your post? You are openly showing everybody and his grandmother that a slice of bread has more knowledge than youGreg ***********
@Michael *******
you are wrong, the Royal Thai embassies are listing THREE different types of DTV. It is NOT wrong to speak about three different DTVMichael ********
OP@Brandon ***********
yes you right. But DTV is only one with three ways to obtain. Am I right?Brandon ************
@Michael *******
how many non-O visas are there? There's only the non-O. But it has at least 10 different categories. Retirement, marriage, parent of half Thai child, sponsor of foreign child studying in Thailand, trailing spouse, volunteer, etc. But they're all non-O. Some of them even qualify for work permit while others do not.Michael ********
OP@Greg **********
are you serious? You really think there are three DTV visas? 😂 You really need an agent.Greg ***********
@Michael *******
there actually are 3 DTV visa types !! The first one isActivity
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