@Jacques ****

Tony is correct, the easiest way is to get the non o visa before you come to Thailand.

You are confusing the non o with non oa visa.

You need the insurance etc only for the non oa.

@Keith ***********

I do too, you quickly get an idea of who is helpful and who is just a waste of time reading, so I just block the latter!

@Martyn **********

it takes about 30 minutes.

@Nick ******

I agree, I did my initial licence at a different office to my year extension and the process was much the same and very easy.

It took about 30 minutes for the first one and an hour for the extension after 2 years.

I didn't go to check my paperwork was in order, so it was one visit each time (I just keep a file with everything they could possibly ask for, just in case).

Very simple, no need for agents and no need to risk not being insured by avoiding it, and using the IDP for more than 90 days.

@Gregor *********

maybe so, but the DTV is not a tourist visa, so it seems we are still talking about a 90 day maximum stay for tourists, I think.

@Andy ***********

I didn't realise there was a tourist visa for 180 days, what is it called?

I thought they were 60 + 30.

@Andy ***********

is that (tourist visa) not the same period (90 days)?

I haven't seen anybody mention this and I am sure you will know this and had it checked already, but just in case...

The chanote for the land needs to be the correct one, or you might run into problems in the future.

@Nate *****

great advice.

@Martyn **********

great advice. Is it worth adding a clause to agree timescales and perhaps a bonus for finishing on time or earlier?