Should I start building my house in Thailand now or wait until I move there?

Oct 22, 2024
2 months ago
Grahame *********
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visited bangkok 4 years ago, met up with lovely lady visited her village in sangkha and stayed in a good hotel (malinee)just before covid.kept in touch with lady via skype throughout lockdown 2 years later i visited and married i am self employed and retiring early next year and have bought a plot of land with a view to build(i know i cannot own the land)i have had the land raised and nearly ready to build ,have approached two builders and chosen ,shoud i start work now or wait till i move to thailand ?
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The discussion centers around an expat contemplating whether to begin construction on a house in Thailand before officially moving there. Multiple commenters advise waiting until the individual is present to oversee the construction, emphasizing the importance of being on-site daily to ensure quality and address any issues that may arise. Many suggest hiring reputable builders and creating a payment structure that links payment to specific milestones in the construction process to avoid potential losses. The advice also includes legal considerations related to land leasing and the necessity of holding architectural permits before starting construction.
John ********
Past experience, stay away from suspended ceilings. My first home in Thailand I was away working periodically in Vietnam. Left the project managing to my other half. My fault in hindsight, I forgot to tell the builder I didn't want suspended tile ceilings. Came home after it was finished and the village the house was in, the road at the front was the Red dirt road. Pickups kicked up clouds of dust, which made its way into every room in the house through the ceilings and the aluminium window frames. Forever cleaning, although the family being farmers a dirty environment was normal for them.
Grahame *********
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far enough away from anything ,the only thing that will bother me is the loud music / chanting over the tannoy
Richard ********
OK, so I'm going to be the dissenter. IF you have the right builder, you can do it in absentia. I am. I do go back periodically; I was there for the foundations. My builder sends photos via LINE frequently and the building progress is WAY ahead of payment. Trust works both ways. We don't even have a contract, all done by handshake. Now... I did do extensive background on my builder and his reputation is golden, having built 90% of the farang villas in the neighborhood (Ao Nang, Krabi. Near Chanapha Residence, which he also built).
Grahame *********
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i have seen some of his builds and liked his work ,have also seen and had work done by previous builders (extension),this has made me more diligent as the work was not good.im just a bit concerned about paying stage payments up front.
Galenus ******
A full stop would help to understand what you want 🙏
Grahame *********
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Grahame *********
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Thanks for the advice it’s similar to what I am doing apart from 10 stages
Grahame *********
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goodness.i certainly need to be on top of the build and keep my eyes open.thanks for your input it is most appreciated
Sam *******
@Grahame ********
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Sam *******
@Grahame ********
plenty of you tube videos on this subject, plenty of knowledge just like this post......
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Hector *********
I got cracks in walls they pour concrete pad on top of clay no sand barrier to allow expansion & shrink wet & dry season sucks just one of the 100s of things that your won't find out till long after handover .

Use PPR water pipe too stay away from pvc .
Craig *********
Be very careful mate I got burnt never moved in the home once home was finished lost contact with not been able to own it not much u can do
Adam ******
Wait until you are there to oversee everything.
Darren ******
I am a builder in Thailand

U are in for a bumpy road even if U are here to see over the build.

One piece of advice ( imo ) don't use Ur partners family to build.

Anything wrong she will never side with U.

I've built many houses and knock down houses here and Thai builders build how they want not as U want.

U need to constantly watch them
Eugene *********
Omg newbie to Thailand good luck 🤞
William ******
From experience...wait until you are actually there.
David **********
Id wait once you move to thailand with a visa you can get your name on the land
Robert *********
Rent in the area for one year.

Then decide if it is where you want to live.

Many many build and then realize it's not the place they can live.

Visiting and living are worlds apart
Dave *******
Turn up every day at least 1 time , also alternate your visiting times .

As others have advised have a set deal for what & when payments will be made upon completion of selected works .
Rog **********
Wait til Ur there 100%
Don *********
I had similar experience that came out great. We were spending half of each year in US so we selected a trucked in wood house and a matching guest house since we would not be there during construction but would be there for installation. We had a pool built during our absence by a European contractor. Everything worked out great. One contractor oversold his abilities and had to be replaced and some electrical work had to be redone.
Linhof *********
If you are at the jobsite, you will get to experience watching your instructions being ignored first hand.
Willow **********
From what uve been reading - Wait until you're there. The work will need direct supervision to ensure things are done correctly and in a timely manner
Glenn *********
Your better off waiting until you arrive..to be here for your house project..you need to be on site with the workers..
John ********
Here in the US we have registered contractors and inspectors. Because they are registered they are accountable for quality and honesty. In case of shenanigans a lien can be placed on their contractors license.

Do they have the equivalent in Thailand?

What recourse is availible for shoddy work?
Darren ******
@John *******
nothing here , U choose Ur builder , your responsible for his shoddy work 😂
Chris *******
@John *******
no this is Thailand.

It's the wild west for many things.

Real estate and construction is a minefield.

Buyer beware and super aware if you do!
Sasi ************
Do not build until you are ready to move and never do it if you can’t personally on site and oversee every day.

Reputed builders are much easy to trust, do not do anything without a signed contract.

My renovation project was a complete disaster even I was in Thailand but different provinces.

Being a woman, alone was a big disadvantage,the construction workers were stealing everything they can whenever they want . Many items keep missing, even my agricultural equipment/items which stored in and around the storage area.

The contact must stated the date clearly, if the progress is not meet the deadline DO NOT pay.

I’ve renovated two homes using two different builders and both do not go well …..
Darin ********
If you have just raised you need to rest the land ( as a Thai person will say) for at least 12 months. Before doing anything get a ground survey for compaction as you’ve used fill on the block
Chris *********************
@Darin *******
not really mate a week or 2 in dry wheather and a constant rolling and compacting will be ok,as most big homes structure now is pile drive posts that go down for a long way to original ground.
Darin ********
@Chris ********************
my Thai family are mostly in the construction industry. So you build however you wish. I’m also from a construction background in Australia.
Chris *********************
@Darin *******
iv had 4 houses built 3 of them by my mother and father in law 1 by a company. They are all still standing 15 years later was when the first 1 was built down in the village thai village still not a bit of movement, 3 on my land now including my big family home ,so each to there own ,makes no difference how much experience you have in building, if you not building it,
Darin ********
@Chris ********************
you are partly right two weeks of rolling in dry season we will never give you the compaction. But saying that if you’re driving in concrete peers .which I’m going to do compaction is not really a problem except for driveways and pathways or a pool areas
Chris *********************
@Darin *******
easy just don't put concrete down for paths and drives ,you would need drainage, more expense with the amount of rain in rainy season ,just use stone pebbles, on top of the land natural drainage.
Chris *********************
From personal experience building my house years ago, a reputable builder will ask you for payment in 4 stages the last payment on completion, when you are happy with the finished house.

Give time for any faults before last payment, ie cracks ,plumbing, drainage, etc.and yes if your wife or family don't know the builder be on site during the build
Stuart ***********
I haven't seen anybody mention this and I am sure you will know this and had it checked already, but just in case...

The chanote for the land needs to be the correct one, or you might run into problems in the future.
Tony *********
My advice would be to not do any building until you're in Thailand. But before you even think about that you need to employ a Thai architect to produce the full set of architectural drawings which have to be signed off by the local Or Bor Thor office to get a building permit. Don't build something from a rough plan. I paid a Thai architect 10,000 baht to produce my drawings. Only then did I think about construction.
Chris *********************
@Tony ********
if it's a big reputable building firm they will have everything done for you in the price. No need to get any plans signed off ,build what you want on your own land.
Tony *********
@Chris ********************
yes if it's a big company they might get the drawings done for you with their own architect and they might get them signed off for you. But it still has to be done. And no you cannot build whatever you want on your own land.
Chris *********************
@Tony ********
just spoke to the wife, and she says depends on the size of the house.
Tony *********
@Chris ********************
I actually built my house in Isaan while I was still in Phuket. I did it remotely via video and photos. But there was no way I could have done it without a full set of architectural drawings that went down to the last nut and bolt. That way I could keep track of everything without being there. And it turned out pretty good.
Chris *********************
@Tony ********
yes you can I have 3 houses and a large swimming pool on my land my big house built by a builder, and 2 built by father in law 10 years plus ago ,no permission applied for 2 father in-laws built or 16 meter pool.
Tony *********
@Chris ********************
yes I'm sure that's just fine. I just said you can't do anything you want on your land. I was in this business for 15 years in Phuket. And I can assure you that for example if an area is zoned for a maximum height restriction of three floors you cannot build four floors. There are very few restrictions but there are some depending on the area. Planning regulations aren't as restricted as they are in the UK but there are some restrictions, like for instance you're supposed to keep 3m between your boundary and your neighbors. But for all intents and purposes you can put any design you like on your land.
Chris *********************
@Tony ********
I live in the sticks mate nobody bothered up here ,yes you could be right in ,built up areas,
Tony *********
@Chris ********************
yeah same with me. My land is outside a small village in the jungle, so no worries about that, but I have no idea what kind of land this chap is talking about in terms of being in the wilderness or in a built up area.
Michael ********
@Tony ********
Are you in Isarn now ? Wherabouts
Tony *********
@Michael *******
yes I am. About 45 km outside of Udon city.
Michael ********
@Tony ********
ok cool send you message not sure when we up that way.

We are in BKK, Samat Sakorn and Ratchaburi now
Mick ********
From personal experience Be on site with your wife Oversee the work As nice as it sounds don't employ her aunties brothers son who builds houses. Their is a reason he's cheaper
Andre *********
Rent don’t buy
Grahame *********
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@Andre ********
I have looked at rental properties but have the land am 67 and want bespoke
Nate ******
You need to be there and keep your eyes on everything done every single day . Also, even if you are married, you need a lease from your wife for the land, you own the house but the land is hers. I would recommend depending on your age at least a 35 year lease if not longer any attorney can handle that for you, it’s very common and protects you even if you get divorced, you can still live in the house for those 35 years or whatever time is designated .
Grahame *********
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@Nate *****
30 years would see me out
Michael ********
@Nate *****
its 30 year lease not 35 year
Nate ******
Stuart ***********
@Nate *****
great advice.
Scotty *******
Just finished building here in korat

I would not be building anything till you are here

It's different here to where ever you come from

1)Firstly have a house plan

2)find a good builder talk to few the quality varies and so does the price

3) have a budget set out remember you get what you pay for cheap is sometimes nasty

4) once you start building you will need to have a look over project often and voice your concerns that way you end up with a good build

Goodluck
Darren ******
@Scotty ******
I'm on korat , well non Thai , what part are U in ?
Scotty *******
@Darren *****
I'm in Pho klang
Darren ******
@Scotty ******
ah ok , I'm an hour north of U.
Patrick ********
Good luck old chap. You'll need it
Bbc *********
Wait till u are here and make sure u do bank transfer and keep all records of payment for future
Michael ***************
My partners uncle was a retired master builder so employed him to check on my new build, been in it 17 years so he did a good job
Michael ********
Try these two groups Building in Thailand group Residential Construction for Expats Thailand you will gdt better answers. But basically i would say no unless you have someine you really trust. You need to be there. Rent somewhere near

There is a great book building in thailand that will explain all the pitfalls here.

We have had our land 5 years now and still in planning stage. Research is key
Jeffrey ************
Up to you..
Brandon ************
This is not from any personal experience I have, but from reading many posts on the subject.

1) Wait until you are in Thailand so you can oversee and check, and check constantly if not be seen on the site every day.

2) Do not pay upfront. Set very specific waypoint steps in the contract. For example: Foundation is laid and walls are up, receive 25% of the pay. Roof goes on, receive the next 25%, etc. You can pay upfront for the materials or even order them yourself, but do not pay everything up front, and do not listen to any sob stories or excuses about why they need the money before finishing a certain point, as it's in the contract. This is how people end up with a half built house after paying for the entire project. It's their job to figure it out because they agreed to it in the contract.
Leon ********
@Brandon ***********
so true. Be careful please.
James *********
@Brandon ***********
Your advice is an ABSOLUTE! I have Contractor friends and a (minor) percentage of their work is picking up the pieces and finishing projects for folks who've made the HUGE Mistake of paying a con artist who's run off with their money at different stages of the build.
Max ********
@Brandon ***********
yes very good advice we did much the same, had the land then made the plans with the builder, my Thai wife did know the builder, he had a contract drawn up with progressive payments, we came to Thailand for three months witch in that time the house was almost finished minus painting and finishing touches, wife had a friend who watch over for us and sent videos of progress,all went well but was in 2019 so we could not get back for nearly 3 years Covid. We are just so pleased, just what we wanted.
Stuart ***********
@Brandon ***********
great advice.
Von ******
@Brandon ***********
exactly how my best friend built his house.

The final payment was withheld from the Builder until they rectified issues and painted the entire blockwork and rendered boundary fence line.

That was worth 35% of the job.
Ken ********
@Brandon ***********
wow, that sounds brilliant advice
Martyn ***********
@Ken *******
as Brandon says... But I'll add.. Before commencing.. Get a 'Bill of Quantities' this details everything thats included in build and itemises the costs of each item.. For example the cost if each sqm of tiling.. Materials and labour.

The more details in this agreement, the less confrontation you will have.. A good reputable builder with have no problem with it.. The others hate it and will discourage it.. Because they know they can add.. And add.. And add.. As it goes along'

And... Take charge, don't let them deal with your wife.. Keep her out of it! The builders know that ladies won't want to have confrontation with 'senior professional male' and use this to their obvious advantage to push things through..

Good luck.

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Stuart ***********
@Martyn **********
great advice. Is it worth adding a clause to agree timescales and perhaps a bonus for finishing on time or earlier?
Martyn ***********
@Stuart **********
the completion date is in the BOQ.. I suppose you can sue if not complete? Mine was ready on time and on budget.. I was very lucky.. 😉
Ken ********
@Martyn **********
brilliant, sounds great
Nigel **********
@Ken *******
buy the materials yourself or they’ll do a deal with the supplier…
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