@Keith ******

so you know that this is good and EVERY Immigration Office in Thailand of over 84 offices allows a first 90-days report by mail?

@Mark *******

maybe SOME Immigrations allow it by mail for the first time. However as we know that there are over 84 Immigration Offices in Thailand, so please get off your high horse and don't tell me that you know for every one of these 84 offices, if they accept it or not

@Mark *******

Well, what do you say, ChatGPT gives me a wholly different answer when I ask:

“can you do your first 90-days report on Immigration in Thailand by mail?”

The answer is a definite “No, you can’t”

“No, you cannot submit your first 90-day report in Thailand by mail. You must do it in person at the immigration office or through an authorized agent. Subsequent reports (after the first) can be done by mail or online, but the initial report requires an in-person visit or agent assistance.

Here's a breakdown:

First 90-day report:

Must be done in person at the immigration office or by an authorized agent.

Subsequent 90-day reports:

Can be done by mail, online, or in person.

Mailing option:

Requires sending a specific set of documents, including a self-addressed, stamped envelope for the return receipt, to the relevant immigration office.

Online option:

Requires registration and an active login on the Immigration Bureau website.

Important Considerations:

In-person reporting: While the most reliable, it can be time-consuming.

Mail reporting: Can be unreliable due to potential delays or lost mail.

Online reporting: Not available for the first report.

For the first 90-day report, ensure you have all required documents (passport, visa, etc.) and prepare for a visit to the immigration office.

@Graham *****

ChatGPT gives me a different answer - it says you can't do it by mail when it is the first time

well, it doesn't say "show both names". It clearly says "show your name" on the Thai Embassy London website for your application to the 90-Days Non-Imm-O Family Visa

Kindly noted: so using Thai Visa Centre actually made it possible that you were able to apply for the 1-year extension based on retirement from up to 53 days (!!) before your current 90 days stay permit expired. People who do it by themselves normally need to wait until 30 days are left on the 90 days stay permit (in Bangkok andChiang Mai up from 45 days) before theycan apply for the extension. Well, the extra 23 days don't change a jota of the result, as for everybody, the extension always begins on the day after the expiry of the 90-days stay permit

@Dave ******

It's like I said - you can wring 6 months stay out of the METV, but the very last entry shortly before the expiry of the 6-months validity is upon the discretion of the border official. Normally this last re-entry is not a problem and you can achieve almost 8 months of stay. After the Thai government introduced the new taxation regulations, which makes you a tax resident if you stay in Thailand longer than 180 days per calendar year, this may have confused many border officers, so they refuse to stamp you in any longer than 6 months . . . . We don't know. This is Thailand - nothing is clear, everything is possible

@Dianne *********

*** a direct transfer from your home country bank to the Thai bank account will be automatically coded as a foreign transfer

*** if you use WISE for the transfer, make sure you tick in “reasons” the box “funds for long term stay on Thailand”. Then it will be coded as a foreign transfer

All other “reasons” can end up as inner Thailand transfers because WISE will us one of their Thai bank accounts

How to proceed when using other providers like Remittly, Revolut or Western Union, I don’t know

***you visit Immigration as soon as the 800,000 THB have cleared your Thai bank account, and apply for the “change” to the 90-days visa.

Update the bank passbook to show, is all that’s needed.

The 2 months “seasoning” is only required for the application to the 1-year extension

*** of course you could also use a legalized income affidavit over monthly 65,000 THB. But only if your embassy in Thailand is willing to issue one

*** NOTE of WARNING: Jomtien/Pattaya Immigration has different requirements, they make their own rules. Try to avoid them . . . the following screenshot is the current police or regarding the proof the depposit came from abroad

the only extension which starts on the day you apply for it, are the "7-days extension" that you get stamped if your application gets denied. Then the stamp says "Extension denied you have 7 days to leave the kingdom"

@Dianne *********

oh, this changes a lot!! Why didn't you tell me before? So you already have a Thai bank account. . . . . . . making things easy, you don't have to fly back to your home country . . . . just transfer into it from abroad a minimum of 800,000 THB. Make sure the bank codes the transfer as coming from abroad. You need a rental contract for an accomodation in Thailand. . . . Then you only need to do a border run, re-enter visa exempt, visit Immigration and apply for the "change of visa type" from the exempt-entry to a 90-days Non-Imm-O visa. You will have to show that you got 800,000 THB sitting in your Thai bank account. There is no need to prove any "2-months seasoning" at this point . . . . . you will get issued the 90-days Non-O Retirement Visa for 14 days "under consideration". After these 14 days you visit Immigration and pick up the visa stamp. Up from 30 days before the 90 days Non-O stay permit expires, you get the letter from the bank saying the money has sat in the account for 2 months, visit Immigration and apply for the "1-year Extension of the Temporary Stay Permit based on Retirement" (the famously so called "retirement visa") Check this Immigration website, pick your language, then click onto number 9. It opens a downloadable pdf which contains the requirements needed to apply for the "change of visa type" to a 90-days Non-O retirement visa