Update: I just had a phone yelling session with the staff at the Thai Embassy in New Zealand. They insist that even Thai insurance companies need to fill in the form saying they are foreign insurance companies and that it is just what needs to be done and it should not be a problem BECAUSE other applications with New Zealand Insurance have filled in the form.

I would ask. So you just want my Thai Insurance company to fill in the form saying they are a Non Thai insurance company but have insurance similar to a Thai insurance company?

"The form is correct sir, please send it to us" they yelled back. I ask to just get a Non O and it turns out the Thai Embassy in NZ only issue non O to visit Thai family or start work. They don't do it for retirement!

So I have to try and convince my Thai Insurance company to sign a document with a government department letterhead (this only means that government department approved the form)

I am just not sure how much longer I can make excuses about wanting to live here in Thailand anymore. It really does not offer anything above and beyond other options

@Tod ********

is it not possible to switch from a OA to an O from within Thailand?

@Tod ********

honestly is not so smart, accepts whatever she is told by junior people and never challenges or questions authority who often say No rather than I don't know let me send you to my supervisor

Any reference in websites say it has to be a company. In this case a single Thai person owns the business and has no need to split the business up with different owners or shareholders. But they can pay me 50,000 baht a month..BUt as a sole proprietor the paperwork is considerably less than a limited partnership or registered company. So she has no reason to create a company just to employ a farang

No I am referring to a business owner 100% by a Thai person. She has no need to make a company and add other owners

@Karan **************

thanks

I contacted the New Zealand Thai Embassy. They stated that as of the 31st the Insurance will be required for the OA Visa. They also stated (In true immigration style) that they will update this information on the website and advise all the staff ON THE 31st.

So for anyone who has also contacted the staff at their own embassy, I would try again and ask to speak to someone higher up the food chain. It seems (In NZ anyway) that the staff don't always know

@Tod ********

thanks mate. You would know if anyone would. I will relax and enjoy my two weeks holiday back home :)

@Robert ******

nope, not applied for retirement yet. I am on APEC which still has not had the immigration screw around with it and good for a few more years

Just makes a difference if I can't move all my assets to Thailand then I will just stick the 800k in an account and stop buying property here

@Ron ******

cheers