@Michael **********

Ah, okay.

You plan to enter on a 90-days single entry Non-Imm-O visa, and use it for a holiday of 90 days. Then you plan to do a border-bounce, to get stamped in for 60 more days upon re-entry

*** I would say your plan is okay and will work, as long as the Immigration officer at the border likes your past entry-stamp history of the recent 365-days, most of all when he doesn’t find “too many” visa-exempt entries and touristic entries

Regardless of all - be prepared to be asked for the three famous proofs:

*Cash equivalent of 20,000 THB

*a few nights of a booked accommodation

*Proof of onward travel leaving Thailand within these visa-exempt 60 days

Safe trip and a nice holiday!

@Franco ******

You are confusing us with wrong wording :

There is nothing such as a “renowal visa retirement”

The only thing you can “renew”, is the “1-year Extended Stay Permit based on Retirement”, by applying for the next “1-year Extension of the Stay Permit based on Retirement”

There is a difference between a "visa" and a "stay permit"

The visa permits and regulates the entry into the country. Depending on the visa category, you will receive stay permits of varying lengths.

In Thailand, these can be 15, 30, 60, 90, or 180 days – depending on the visa category. It can also be 1 years or 5 years

The stay permit regulates the length of your permitted stay in the country. The length of the permitted stay depends on the visa category.

You enter the country on a visa - and from then on reside in the country on a stay permit. This be seen on the entry stamp:

It says "admitted until" and a date. This stamp is the actual stay permit. The entry date is in red, and the expiration date of the "admitted until" permit is in blue.

In the upper right corner there will be a smallish note indicating the visa class you used

The stamp for the annual "1-year extension of residence permit" consequently reads "extension of stay permitted until" and a date.

The reason for which the 12-months extension got issued, is either an extra stamp saying “Retirement” or a handwritten note saying “Thai Wife”

This stamp is the actual stay permit. This stamp is not a visa.

A visa, for example, a "single entry tourist" or a "single entry Non-Imm-O" visa type, becomes invalid upon entry and cannot be extended or used again for another entry.

A multi-entry visa can be used for any number of (multiple) entries within the visa validity period.

For example, the 6-month multi-entry tourist visa is valid for 6 months, but you only receive a 60-days stay permit for each entry.

A visa always has a so-called "visa validity." This is the expiration date by which you must have used the visa to enter the country.

Visas .pdf documents issued by the e-visa online system, show the expiry date of the visa validity after the words "visa must be used by".

EXAMPLE: For a 60-day tourist visa or a 90-day non-immigrant visa, the visa validity is three months from the date of issue.

A 3-months visa validity date means you must have entered the country by this date, 3 months after the visa has been issued.

The visa validity and the validity of the permitted stay are never the same.

Anyone who wants to extend their stay must apply for an "extended stay permit" and not a "visa extension."

Even Thai Immigration fools around "visa extensions," even though they aren't extending any visas. They are only extending the stay permit.

Laziness plays a role. It's easier to say you have a "retirement visa" than to pronounce the correct term, which is "temporary extension of the stay permit based on retirement."

Look at your entry stamp and check the visa validity date. Compare. Your stamped stay permit extends BEYOND the visa expiration date. The entry date is in red, and the expiration date of the "admitted until" permit is in blue.

NOTE:

The entry is made on a "visa."

A "stay permit" is stamped in the passport.

The VISA expires and is invalid after entry.

The applicant is now in Thailand on a stay permit.

This stay permit can be extended. A visa that has long since expired, cannot get extended at all.

@Franco ******

are you already on a 1-year extension of stay based on retirement, and need to apply for the next 1-year extension of stay, or did you enter on a 90-days Non-Imm-O retirement visa and now want to apply for the 1-year extension?

@Ryan ******

ah, yes, the Department of Consular Affairs in the Chaeng Watthana Road is a subsidy of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. They might be able to help, establish a direct contact to the HCMC Consulate and get them to re-issue the DTV .Good Luck !

@Ryan ******

"I was granted a tourist visa on arrival" . . . . . . no, you, as U.S. citizen, weren't granted any visa. You got stamped in for a 60-days stay permit on a visa-exempt entry

ah, thank you for clarifying. There was so much misinterpretation, also from my side, I am sorry for this. And normally only the HCMC Royal Thai General Consulate can fix this issue. There is no Thai embassy inside Thailand, so did you schedule an appointment with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Bangkok? The MfA in Bangkok normally does not get involved in embassy & consulate matters, although you could give it a try in case you are staying in Bangkok anyways

@David *********

well it is the bank's rules. If they don't open accounts based on a tourist visa type, which the DTV is, there is nothing you can do

@David *********

and yet this still would be no justification or need for a Thai bank account. You can withdraw cash Thai Baht inside any bank or at any ATM with your credit card(s)

@Graham *****

in detail it says: the personal report can be done up from 15 days before due date until 7 days after due date . . . . . . However, the online report can only be made between 15 days before until 7 days before due date. If it is his first 90-days report, he has to do it in person

@Ralph ******

read my reply, again. It's exactly what I said