@Mike *********

the release from MFA is floating around in several groups, one of the usual Thai visa groups probably has it pinned somewhere. Probably also on the embassy site where you are considering applying. I think the specific details are in the Royal Gazette which is in Thai but pretty sure some of the main contributors to this group like Tod or James could direct you on that.

For the declaration in the e-visa, you need to go through the steps to the final page before you submit it's written there. The other part is when you first log into the e-visa site it asks where you are located. If you enter the information truthfully and say Thailand it will tell you that you are not able to use the site and must go to another country to apply.

There is another aspect to this that was commented on in several large Reddit threads. Let's say you decide to do as you are suggesting, nothing gets triggered, no stamps are asked for, you sneak through and you get approved. You leave Thailand to re-enter and activate your visa. The immigration officer at entry is on the ball, checks the date your visa was approved, checks your prior Thai stamps and determines you applied while in Thailand and denys entry. DTV entries are being scrutinized partially because they are new and not all IO's have seen them yet.

The applications are also being scrutinized pretty heavily, after the flurry of applicants and questionable info being provided embassies have started tightening up and looking for more details. You could try it but it's a risk and you could end up losing the fee, having a visa cancelled, etc. Up to you if that's not a big deal. Your best bet is to go to a neighboring country and apply.

@Mike *********

it doesn't have to be your home country, but you do have to be in the country you are applying in. Various forums, subs and other Facebook groups have posts where people have been asked for the passport stamp or proof of entry into that country.

You are also violating the terms and conditions that you have agreed to when you put your signature on the document just before submitting the application. It confirms that you are providing accurate and correct information. Saying you are somewhere you aren't isn't accurate or correct, so you are obtaining the visa fraudulently. If for whatever reason it was determined your lied on an official government documents, you risk having your visa cancelled.

The documents for the DTV visa released by the MFA and other government agencies shows the wording that the DTV must be applied for outside of Thailand. You do you, but it's a major risk just to avoid spending a week elsewhere.

@Marta ************

our first entry, the person beside me was asked by the IO for the paper, showed their phone. The IO accepted it, they obviously weren't happy about it based on how they handled the phone and told them next time paper. Personally, I wouldn't want someone to be handling my phone after touching so many passports and documents but I'll admit to being a bit germ adverse.

@Janelle ****

@Davion *****

more embassies, that are still accepting in person, are asking for you to log in and show since people have been "manipulating" documents.

@Shantz *******

we applied to Vancouver. Very responsive to emails and we did even get through on the phone! My husband's was approved in 2 hours and my dependant was about 24 hrs. That was at the end of July though, so not as busy. You choose the one that applies for your location in Canada. Manitoba west is Vancouver, everywhere else is Ottawa.

@David ******

dude seriously 🤦‍♀️... you are your own worst enemy. Talk to the agent that owns this group, they can let you know the best options and what, if any help, they can give you. Not going to be cheap but really you don't have much choice since it doesn't seem like you'll be able to sort it on your own.

@David ******

Yangon, but like Laos you need an appointment. Taipei and Jakarta are also in person, no appointment required.

@Eric *****

it depends on nationality. Canadians still can but I don't believe US, UK or Australia still offer them.

@David ******

@Elías *******

has given you great advice, look into the DTV soft power. Get a letter from the dentist for a treatment plan and meet the rest of the qualifications. It's 5 years, multi entry, 180 days per entry. Will you get it? With your history, hard to say so your best best is to apply at an embassy that still does in person so they won't take your $$ right away.

@Eric *****

you are very confused. You didn't get 87 days, if you entered on a Non O you would have been stamped in for 90 days from the date of entry. The day you arrive is counted as day 1, even if it's at 11:50pm so really 89 days. The stamp in your passport is the one that counts.

Correct, you can't extend the 90 days Non O for another 90 days. You can either apply for the yearly extension based on retirement or an extension for family which is 60 days.