- tell them to fuck off. Politely. Like: "Oh ok thank you very much, let me check with my landlord.". Add a shit-eating smile and a wai.
Next day or the same afternoon you walk in with a TM30 dated yesterday. Even if you had to submit it yourself. You're just back from a trip to Bangkok so your TM30 is dated yesterday.
right, but crucially that doesn't matter. It only matters when you actually get to your place of residence. You could have travelled elsewhere in Thailand, then arrived yesterday. Especially as many offices require that people do another TM30 after travelling domestically. They have no feasible way to check this because really a lot of hotels don't bother doing tm30s. (Some do, though, but it's a mess)
My wife runs into this sometimes with her Airbnb: when long term guests go to Pai (which is a different province from Chiang Mai) then they sometimes need a new TM30 for her place in Chiang Mai before extending their visa.
- Refuse that. There is absolutely no requirement for a tenant do take responsibility for a TM30. To the letter of the law they can then come back at you for failing to do a TM28... which nobody does, but which they can (and probably would) use to extract money. it's a big game to them.
- Tell them to fuck off. (politely). And come back another time with a TM30 that better aligns with what you tell them about the check in date. A late TM30 is basically impossible unless someone volunteers a date that doesn't match.
Nothing can happen to you as a tenant. But the property owner can be charged a fine, subject to negotiation, but roughly between 800 and 1600 Baht. 😉
"Income derived by a foreigner who is not a Thai tax resident". --> What makes you a Thai tax resident? Secondly, does this only apply to foreigners? What about income from sources outside Thailand derived by Thai citizens? (I don't have income from sources outside Thailand, but my Thai wife has plenty.) Also also, what about foreign income from a Thai citizen (or foreign tax resident) that is NOT brought into Thailand? And is that considered a good idea by the Thai government: less money coming into Thailand? Because that's what they'll achieve.
And how will that even be checked.. you can leave more funds abroad and pay for lots of things directly from abroad. Either direct, or via just any Thai person who will do the payment on your behalf; is the revenue department equipped to go collect tax on lots of small payments that will start happening directly from abroad? Keep in mind that people currently bring in money in bulk because there's no reason not to. Start taxing it and there is a LOT of reason to stop doing that.
- That's what i thought too, but this article says otherwise. That's what I'm responding to. While also knowing full well that it'll change 10 times before being shelved. ;)
- Because according to the article, income is taxed only if you bring it in. If you buy that boat or plane or real estate investment abroad then the money never hits the Thai tax system. It discourages investing in Thailand.
Reading through it, this is *completely* impossible for them to implement effectively. (So many countries, so many tax systems, figuring out how much tax was already paid abroad by each individual, etc. etc.) Furthermore, even if they are somehow successful then this will cause people (Thais and foreigners alike) to bring as little money into Thailand as possible. The revenue peeps will be scratching their heads and wondering if this is actually what they want? Less money into Thailand? Really? Don't you guys want more money into Thailand, not less?
