What are the potential consequences of not filing a TM30 in Thailand?

@Peter *********

right, but crucially that doesn't matter. It only matters when you actually get to your place of residence. You could have travelled elsewhere in Thailand, then arrived yesterday. Especially as many offices require that people do another TM30 after travelling domestically. They have no feasible way to check this because really a lot of hotels don't bother doing tm30s. (Some do, though, but it's a mess)

My wife runs into this sometimes with her Airbnb: when long term guests go to Pai (which is a different province from Chiang Mai) then they sometimes need a new TM30 for her place in Chiang Mai before extending their visa.

@Nongnuch *******

I know for a fact immigration told a friend of mine the landlord needs to pay the fine.

But he will still not get extention if fee is not paid

@Marc *******

your friend can't even leave the Immigration office before he hasn't paid the fine by himself. After that, he can just try to get the money back from his landlord 😂😅😂

@Craig *******

frankly I don't care what you believe, I know the guy well, and facts are just that.

@Tom ********

Takes a lot to get banned for a year. 90-day report is not required to maintain lawful status in the Kingdom.

Perhaps your friend was unfriendly to the immigration officer 🙂 There's more to the story.

@Tony *******

yep that's exactly what they give you

@Michael *********

No problem. Just bear in mind it is an official requirement, but whether you will be asked to provide it depends on the IO you meet with.

@Nongnuch *******

not correct the landlord needs to pay the fine actually.But good luck with that😅

@Marc *******

A tenant can't even leave the Immigration office before he hasn't paid the fine by himself.

After that, he can just try to get the money back from his landlord 😂😅😂

@Nongnuch *******

idk maybe he didn't argue with them not having to pay but that's what he has told me

@Marc *******

he surely paid, or he would not have been allowed to leave the office 😂😂😂

@Nongnuch *******

As I said I don't know if he tried not to pay

@Nongnuch *******

Fortunately, I didn’t need one on my last extension. They just asked my girlfriend for the address.

@Ralph ******

they did the same when I visited them for the application to the yearly extension. However only the first time. After that they demand a refreshed TM30 every time I enter Thailand coming from abroad

@Nongnuch *******

My immigration office need photocopies of all historical TM30’s in my passport for each retirement extension.

@Christopher **********

OMG! I pity you. How was I to keep all recent TM30 slips? Many of these were removed from my passport by Immigration when I exited Thailand

@Nongnuch *******

I wouldn’t worry. I think it’s a case of the receipt slips were stapled in my passport so they took photocopies. If they weren’t there it may not have been a concern?

@Christopher **********

There's no requirement to keep TM30 in your passport

@Roberto ********

My ‘receipts of notification of change of address’ were stapled into my passport by my immigration office. Whether I’m required to leave them there or not I don’t remove them. They are removed, photocopied and restapled into my passport when I apply for retirement extension renewals.

@Christopher **********

Ah ok. I won't allow anyone to staple things into my passport. That's how damage occurs. When I apply for extension I only print my TM30 the day before and present it with the rest of the documents

@Roberto ********

it's a TM 28

@Karl *****

TM28 is no longer required at most immigration offices, and still no requirement to keep in passport

@Roberto ********

wrong, Yes, you should keep the confirmation receipt for your TM28 report in your passport. You'll need this receipt when you visit Thai Immigration for issues like 90-day reporting or a stay permission extension.

Here's some related information about TM28 and TM30 forms:

TM28

This form is used to notify authorities of a change of address within a province. It's required for foreigners with a non-immigrant visa or extension of stay. You should file the TM28 within 24 hours of moving.

TM30

This form is used to report a foreigner's stay to immigration. It's required of all foreigners. Your landlord is responsible for setting up your TM30 and reporting your stay to immigration. You can submit your TM30 report online, by post, or in person at the immigration office.

Penalties

There are penalties for failing to comply with the TM30 regulations. Property owners who don't file a report face a fine of THB 2,000, while hotel operators face a fine of THB 2,000 to THB 10,000.

@Karl *****

I've lived in Thailand for 16 years, have NEVER done a TM28 as Bangkok Immigration don't use them. The TM30 is actually a landlord or hotel requirement. The information goes into the immigration database, so there is absolutely no requirement to carry a copy in your passport. The only time I print a TM30 is the day before I attend immigration in case it hasn't shown up in their database. I do 90-day reports online - there is no requirement to show a TM30.

@Roberto ********

TM.30 is the form used by your landlord, the TM 28 is what is issues to you. You also don't need to mention how.long you have lived here as it does not seem to matter, some still don't get it. You also contradicted your self by saying you still print one off. Having the TM 28 in your passport saves all the worry.

@Karl *****

Bangkok Immigration office has zero interest in TM28. They're a bit pedantic about TM30

@Karl *****

I print the TM30. I travel a lot - I'm not going to be forever printing TM30s. I use Bangkok Immigration. They don't use TM28

@Roberto ********

in my passport is a TM 28, no matter what's required it's still in there and yes, since the technology of computers which is only a new occurrence all information.recorded. yet they still check for.my TM 28 when I do my 90 day report.

@Ralph ******

this makes sense, if your GF is accompanying you, got her blue housebook and her ID card, they often waive the TM30 duty

@Nongnuch *******

I don’t think they ask for TM30 at that office. I don’t see any ‘blue house book’.