This is where the real situation lies. Thai immigration officers have broad discretionary power to deny entry to anyone they believe is abusing tourist entries to live in Thailand long-term without the proper visa.
· The 180-Day "Rule of Thumb": While not a law, a common rule of thumb used by immigration is if a person has spent more than 180 days in Thailand in a 12-month period on tourist entries (whether visa exemptions or Tourist Visas), they may be flagged as a potential visa abuser.
· Pattern of Stay: It's not just the number of entries. Officers look at your pattern. If you do multiple back-to-back trips (e.g., stay for almost 60 days, leave for a week, and come back), it strongly suggests you are not a genuine tourist but are effectively living in Thailand.
· The "Proper Visa" Warning: When an officer tells you to "get a proper visa," they are referring to a long-term visa that matches your actual purpose for being in Thailand long-term, such as:
· Non-Immigrant B Visa (for business or work)
· Non-Immigrant O Visa (for retirement, marriage to a Thai national, or other dependant reasons)
· Education Visa (for studying)
· Thai Elite Visa (a long-term visa obtained through a premium membership program)
Why The Crackdown?
Thailand is cracking down on people who use tourist visas to:
· Work illegally (digital nomads, freelancers, bar workers).
· Stay indefinitely without contributing to the system (retirees who don't meet the financial requirements for a retirement visa).
· Avoid paying taxes.
Practical Advice to Avoid Being Denied Entry:
1. Keep Your Stay Under 180 Days/Year: If you want to visit frequently, try to keep your total time in Thailand on tourist entries below 180 days within a 12-month rolling period.
2. Vary Your Entry Points: If you have many recent stamps, avoid using the same land border or airport repeatedly.
3. Carry Proof of Your Intentions: When entering, be prepared to show:
· A return or onward flight ticket.
· Proof of sufficient funds for your stay (20,000 THB per person is the official requirement, but more is better).
· Proof of accommodation or a plan for your trip.
· Proof of employment or residency in your home country (e.g., a work contract, property deed, university enrollment). This shows you have reasons to return home.
4. Use a Tourist Visa Instead of Exemption: If you plan to stay for a full 60 days (extendable to 90), applying for a Single-Entry Tourist Visa (SETV) at a Thai embassy or consulate in your home country or a nearby country looks better than using a 60-day exemption stamp. It shows you planned your trip in advance.
5. Consider a Proper Long-Term Visa: If your goal is to spend most of your time in Thailand, you should seriously investigate which long-term visa you qualify for (Retirement, Marriage, Education, Elite, etc.). This is the correct and safe way to stay long-term.
In summary: immigration officers are now often stopping people with as few as 3 or 4 recent back-to-back entries and advising them to get a proper long-term visa instead of relying on tourist entries.
you don't have any Non-Imm-O multi entry "visa". You obviously got a one-year extended stay permit based on being over 50/retired, and for this stay permit you bought a multi re-entry permit . . The only "1-year multi entry visa" is the 365-days Non-Imm-O/A Longstay Visa
that's a stay over 3 months. You can get a 60-days "admitted stay" stamped when you enter visa-exempt. And buy a 30-days extension on Immigration for 1900 THB. It would carry you until February 2nd. It is unclear if you will be allowed another visa-exempt entry so shortly after having had one plus having maximized it. I instead recommend you leave Thailand before the first 60 days are expired, stay in a neighbour country for a 1-2 weeks holiday, then re-enter visa-exempt and get stamped in for another 60 days, which would show that you are a typical ("real") South East Asia tourist. Your chances of being allowed entry again are 100%
you won't miss any 90-days report date, because when you exit Thailand, the reporting requirement becomes void. The 90-days reporting requirement starts when you enter Thailand again, with the day of entry as day number one
you should FIRST learn the difference between a "visa" and a "stay permit" before you attempt to give any advice in this group. You are totally CONFUSING things. Please quit posting
and you get along with the Vietnamese mentality? They are very different from Thai people, culture-wise. Against us foreigners, they use their ELBOWS more often, if you know what I am saying
Holy Cow - it is a BIG difference between an extension out of a former Non-O/A Visa and the Extension out of a former Non-O visa. Just to say. If youstarted out of a Non-O/A, you are forced to contract a tgia-listed Thai private health insurance, AND also keep 800,000 THB in a Thai bank account (unless you have gathered up 12 months of consecutive transfers from abroad, yet, of a minimum of 65,000 THB, month for month) On an extension out of a Non-O visa, you are not forced to a mandatory health insurance - you keep your freedom of choice instead