@Marty ********

yes, you have the option to convert from the 1-year stay permit out of a O/A visa to the 1-yer Extension of Temporary Stay Permit, instead of doing a border run to get stamped into a second year. Is what I was saying! The downside of going into a "1-year extension" (EOS) is, that from now on you need the 800,000 THB in a Thai bank account, and Immigration does not accept a foreign health insurance any more (except if they acknowledge that you are under the "grandfathering clause"). And correct, I would not recommend the O/A for anyone who wishes to stay longterm in Thailand, as if you start with the Non-Imm-O visa, you keep your freedom of choice regarding the health insurance

@Yeo *********

a 1-year Non-Imm-O/A Visa is not a "retirement visa". A 1-year Non-Imm-O/A visa is a so called "Longstay Visa". A visa can technically NOT get extended. You have TWO options: Change from the current stay permit to a "1-year Extension of the Temporary Stay Permit based on an O/A Longstay Visa" by fulfilling the financial and health insurance requirements. You can start this process up from 30 days before your current stay permit expires. You need either a deposit of 800,000 THB on your Thai (!) bank account which must have seasoned by 2 months on the day you apply for the extension, OR show an embassy certified "income affidavit" over an income of monthly minimum of 65,000 THB . . . . . . OR you renew your health insurance for one more year and after this make a "border bounce" just before the O/A visa validity expires, show the proof of insurance at the border upon entry and then you will get stamped in for a last time for another 1-year (or maximum until the health insurance is valid until). If you have any more questions, don't hesitate to ask here

@Ralph ******

your assumptions are wrong . . . . . they applied for the single entry 60 days tourist visa, paid the 40 USD application fee and got rejected

@Paul ***

oh and it DOES matter how you call it, because this is a VISA ADVICE group and we don't like people giving WRONG advice

@Paul ***

you will not be "granted a 60 days visa on arrival" . . .this is complete hogwash. A visa-exempt entry will grant you a stamp that says "admitted until" a date 60 days away from the day of entry. This is a "stay permit" and not a visa, and most of all it is not a "visa on arrival"

@Marty ********

if she entered on a 90-days Non-Imm-O Visa, she doesn't need proof of health insurance for the application to the 1-year extension of the stay permit. Only if she really confused her 365-days Longstay Non-Imm-O/A visa with a Non-O visa, then she has TWO options: either do the border bounce and get another 1-year stay permit stamp of for as long as her existing health insurance is still valid, or apply for the 1-year extension (which would require a Thai private tgia-listed health insurance)

@Yeo *********

and watch your wording: if you entered on a 90-days Non-Imm-O visa, you were stamped in for a 90-days stay permit. The visa itself expired/became invalid upon entry! You are In Thailand on a "stay permit". And the only thing Immigration will "extend for one year", is the stay permit you are on. You can apply for the "1-year extension of temporary stay permit based on retirement" up from 30 days left on the 90-days stay permit stamp. You need to fulfill the financial requirements (either bank letter proof of a minimum of 800,000 THB in your Thai bank account since 2 months, or an embassy certified "income addidavit" over a monthly minimum of 65,000 THB income)

@Yeo *********

you can only get a yellow housebook once the building is finished and a blue housebook has been issued. The yellow housebook is just a subsidary for a foreigner for the lack of being able to get mentioned in a blue housebook

@Terry **********

there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong with my advice. Pray tell me WHERE I am wrong. With the 2000 Baht fee, Maxim meant the fee for the "change of visa type" inside Thailand. You made clear that you didn't have this option if you entered visa exempt . . . All I did was countering the WRONG assumption of Maxim when he said "Yes, but you were able to obtain a 90 Days Non-O without proof of funds in Vientiane, which is a miracle." . . .It is no miracle because you can use any of your bank accounts anywhere in the World for this application. Maxim was wrong in some other assumptions, too

@Maxim **********

NO he could NOT HAVE gotten the visa for 2000 Baht, because for this you need to prove Immigration the funds are sitting in a THAI bank account. He didn't have a Thai bank account at this point! Funds in an Australian bank account cannot be used on Immigration for a "change of visa type" to an initial 90-days Non-O visa